17-18 Player Contributions

Since it's the beginning of the summer, it's a perfect time to day dream about actually being good again.

Here's how I think the player production will play out.
Of course, this is just a guess, so keep that in mind.

Starters
SG Ponds - 18.5 PPG | 4.4 rebounds | 3.1 assists | 2 steals
PG LoVett - 12 PPG | 5.3 assists | 1.9 steals
SF Simon - 6.8 PPG | 4.3 rebounds | 3.5 assists | 2.1 steals
PF Ahmed - 12.1 PPG | 4.8 rebounds | .7 assists
C Owens - 7.5 PPG | 7.1 rebounds | 1.1 assists | 2.2 blocks

Bench
PF/C Yakwe - 3.5 PPG | 2.5 rebounds | 1 block
PF/C Clark Jr - 4.2 PPG | 6.1 rebounds
SF/PF Alibegovic - (in limited time) 4.1 PPG | 3.1 rebounds 
SG Trimble - 3.1 PPG | 1 rebound
SF Wilson - 2.7 PPG | 1.3 rebounds | .8 blocks

That wouldn't be very good to me?

With your numbers we will average 74.5 ppg ....I hope our scoring does not go down 4 points this year that would be a problem.

Ponds 19ppg
Lovett 14ppg
Ahmed 11ppg
Clark 8ppg
Simon 7ppg
Owens 7ppg
Yawkee 4ppg
Trimble 4ppg
Wilson 4ppg
Ali 2ppg

Hoping we can Average 80 points a game this season....I do hope this is because we are winning games 80-70 not having to score 80 plus because we are trying to keep pace with other teams =)

That wouldn't be very good to me?

I think this is an NIT/bubble team. If they landed enough rebounding, and interior d, they'll dance. On paper, it looks a lot like they still have not addressed those issues.

Ponds 16ppg
Lovett 14ppg
Ahmed 12ppg
Clark 7ppg
Simon 10ppg
Owens 7ppg
Yawkee 6ppg
Trimble 2ppg
Wilson 6ppg
Ali 2ppg

Unless we really blow up in the non conference slate i dont see why this team cant win 10 big east games this year.

2-0 vs DePaul and Gtown
1-1 with Hall, Marq, Butler, Providence, X and Creighton
0-2 vs Nova

Clarks biggest impact will come on offensive end.

I think that we will be a lot better this year and a tourney team.  We were the second youngest team in the country last year.  We had a high powered offense for the most part, yet we were nearly all freshmen and sophs.  We add some big and physical forwards and guards to the roster.  Our team lead the league in blocking shots and will easily do so again.  Guys like Simon, Wilson and Clark are BIG upgrades at the forward spot, where we mainly relied only upon Ahmed last year.

I think physically we will be a lot stronger.  Hopefully our defense improves and I'd like to see us incorporate some zone defenses to deal with teams that work the inside a lot.  Vegas oddsmakers see us as the 5th ranked team in the Big East pretty much, and I certainly can see that. 

Some low expectations from Clark huh

Some low expectations from Clark huh

Clark is excellent.  Very goodoutside shooter, rebounder, and can defend big forwards.   Capable of scoring double digits.   We have a lot of talent this season.  I'm not sure people realize how much.  It's not just talent, we have athletes that can run teams out of the gym.

Since it's the beginning of the summer, it's a perfect time to day dream about actually being good again.

Here's how I think the player production will play out.
Of course, this is just a guess, so keep that in mind.

Starters
SG Ponds - 18.5 PPG | 4.4 rebounds | 3.1 assists | 2 steals
PG LoVett - 12 PPG | 5.3 assists | 1.9 steals
SF Simon - 6.8 PPG | 4.3 rebounds | 3.5 assists | 2.1 steals
PF Ahmed - 12.1 PPG | 4.8 rebounds | .7 assists
C Owens - 7.5 PPG | 7.1 rebounds | 1.1 assists | 2.2 blocks

Bench
PF/C Yakwe - 3.5 PPG | 2.5 rebounds | 1 block
PF/C Clark Jr - 4.2 PPG | 6.1 rebounds
SF/PF Alibegovic - (in limited time) 4.1 PPG | 3.1 rebounds 
SG Trimble - 3.1 PPG | 1 rebound
SF Wilson - 2.7 PPG | 1.3 rebounds | .8 blocks

Simon averaging 3.5 assists and Clark averaging just 4.1 points won't happen. You really see Clark and Amar averaging the same?

Quote from: Marco Baldi on June 13, 2017, 03:40:05 PM

Some low expectations from Clark huh

Clark is excellent.  Very goodoutside shooter, rebounder, and can defend big forwards.   Capable of scoring double digits.   We have a lot of talent this season.  I'm not sure people realize how much.  It's not just talent, we have athletes that can run teams out of the gym.

Agreed. I'm expecting a lot more from Clark

Quote from: Poison on June 13, 2017, 01:49:10 PM

Since it's the beginning of the summer, it's a perfect time to day dream about actually being good again.

Here's how I think the player production will play out.
Of course, this is just a guess, so keep that in mind.

Starters
SG Ponds - 18.5 PPG | 4.4 rebounds | 3.1 assists | 2 steals
PG LoVett - 12 PPG | 5.3 assists | 1.9 steals
SF Simon - 6.8 PPG | 4.3 rebounds | 3.5 assists | 2.1 steals
PF Ahmed - 12.1 PPG | 4.8 rebounds | .7 assists
C Owens - 7.5 PPG | 7.1 rebounds | 1.1 assists | 2.2 blocks

Bench
PF/C Yakwe - 3.5 PPG | 2.5 rebounds | 1 block
PF/C Clark Jr - 4.2 PPG | 6.1 rebounds
SF/PF Alibegovic - (in limited time) 4.1 PPG | 3.1 rebounds 
SG Trimble - 3.1 PPG | 1 rebound
SF Wilson - 2.7 PPG | 1.3 rebounds | .8 blocks

Simon averaging 3.5 assists and Clark averaging just 4.1 points won't happen. You really see Clark and Amar averaging the same?

In limited time no less.

Shamorie, Marcus, Bash, Marv and Tariq are going to be special together. They are all ultra athletic, multi faceted and hustle. Their commitment to DEFENSE will determine our success. Regardless, I expect 2-3 of them on the 1st and 2nd All BE teams by season's end. Ultimately I think we make the top25 at one point next Winter and will be dancing next March.

Shamorie will be making a run at BEPOY and will be flirting with the draft next Spring. His stats will be in the 18-20ppg/6 assists/5 rebounds/2 steals/1 block range (Not a stretch). I expect dominant play from him and Marcus all season, together they're going to toy with some teams. Monster season from Bash as well. He's going to take it to the next level this year after another summer w Mitch.

Our bench is loaded. Kassoum should spot start, while contributions from JSimon, Trimble, Sid and even Amar as a Senior will make for a fulfilling and exciting year for Johnnie Nation.

Quote from: Marco Baldi on June 13, 2017, 03:40:05 PM

Some low expectations from Clark huh

Clark is excellent.  Very goodoutside shooter, rebounder, and can defend big forwards.   Capable of scoring double digits.   We have a lot of talent this season.  I'm not sure people realize how much.  It's not just talent, we have athletes that can run teams out of the gym.

We need Clark to be a defensive force. Simon, too. We can't have another roster full of players who are offense minded and don't bother playing defense. We're not good enough to play like the Warriors.

Shamorie, Marcus, Bash, Marv and Tariq are going to be special together. They are all ultra athletic, multi faceted and hustle. Their commitment to DEFENSE will determine our success. Regardless, I expect 2-3 of them on the 1st and 2nd All BE teams by season's end. Ultimately I think we make the top25 at one point next Winter and will be dancing next March.

Shamorie will be making a run at BEPOY and will be flirting with the draft next Spring. His stats will be in the 18-20ppg/6 assists/5 rebounds/2 steals/1 block range (Not a stretch). I expect dominant play from him and Marcus all season, together they're going to toy with some teams. Monster season from Bash as well. He's going to take it to the next level this year after another summer w Mitch.

Our bench is loaded. Kassoum should spot start, while contributions from JSimon, Trimble, Sid and even Amar as a Senior will make for a fulfilling and exciting year for Johnnie Nation.

Do you think Clark starts over Simon? If he does, that would give us what appears to be a much more appropriate starting 5. Not a lot of wiggle room for an injury. Still hoping the staff heeds the warnings of our past and adds a grad transfer. Depth alone could be the difference between dancing and playing in the NIT.

Quote from: Poison on June 13, 2017, 01:49:10 PM

Since it's the beginning of the summer, it's a perfect time to day dream about actually being good again.

Here's how I think the player production will play out.
Of course, this is just a guess, so keep that in mind.

Starters
SG Ponds - 18.5 PPG | 4.4 rebounds | 3.1 assists | 2 steals
PG LoVett - 12 PPG | 5.3 assists | 1.9 steals
SF Simon - 6.8 PPG | 4.3 rebounds | 3.5 assists | 2.1 steals
PF Ahmed - 12.1 PPG | 4.8 rebounds | .7 assists
C Owens - 7.5 PPG | 7.1 rebounds | 1.1 assists | 2.2 blocks

Bench
PF/C Yakwe - 3.5 PPG | 2.5 rebounds | 1 block
PF/C Clark Jr - 4.2 PPG | 6.1 rebounds
SF/PF Alibegovic - (in limited time) 4.1 PPG | 3.1 rebounds 
SG Trimble - 3.1 PPG | 1 rebound
SF Wilson - 2.7 PPG | 1.3 rebounds | .8 blocks

Simon averaging 3.5 assists and Clark averaging just 4.1 points won't happen. You really see Clark and Amar averaging the same?

I do. Possibly. In my head the season plays out with some key performances off the bench by Amar. I don't expect him to be as good as I hoped, which was Donald Emanuel senior season good, but if he isn't the stupidest player we've ever had, he should put together 10/12 solid games as a senior. Some of those games should actually help the team win.

As far as Clark, IDK what to expect from him, but I do know he didn't exactly tear it up at Michigan State, so I'm conservative with his offense. I do however, think that because he was coached by Izzo that he probably knows how to box out. So he should get some boards.

Since it's the beginning of the summer, it's a perfect time to day dream about actually being good again.

Here's how I think the player production will play out.
Of course, this is just a guess, so keep that in mind.

Starters
SG Ponds - 18.5 PPG | 4.4 rebounds | 3.1 assists | 2 steals
PG LoVett - 12 PPG | 5.3 assists | 1.9 steals
SF Simon - 6.8 PPG | 4.3 rebounds | 3.5 assists | 2.1 steals
PF Ahmed - 12.1 PPG | 4.8 rebounds | .7 assists
C Owens - 7.5 PPG | 7.1 rebounds | 1.1 assists | 2.2 blocks

Bench
PF/C Yakwe - 3.5 PPG | 2.5 rebounds | 1 block
PF/C Clark Jr - 4.2 PPG | 6.1 rebounds
SF/PF Alibegovic - (in limited time) 4.1 PPG | 3.1 rebounds 
SG Trimble - 3.1 PPG | 1 rebound
SF Wilson - 2.7 PPG | 1.3 rebounds | .8 blocks

Ellison, the player we all loved to hate averaged 7.4 last year, are we really expecting a top 30 recruit like Simon to score less?

Quote from: Marillac on June 13, 2017, 04:55:11 PM

Quote from: Poison on June 13, 2017, 01:49:10 PM

Since it's the beginning of the summer, it's a perfect time to day dream about actually being good again.

Here's how I think the player production will play out.
Of course, this is just a guess, so keep that in mind.

Starters
SG Ponds - 18.5 PPG | 4.4 rebounds | 3.1 assists | 2 steals
PG LoVett - 12 PPG | 5.3 assists | 1.9 steals
SF Simon - 6.8 PPG | 4.3 rebounds | 3.5 assists | 2.1 steals
PF Ahmed - 12.1 PPG | 4.8 rebounds | .7 assists
C Owens - 7.5 PPG | 7.1 rebounds | 1.1 assists | 2.2 blocks

Bench
PF/C Yakwe - 3.5 PPG | 2.5 rebounds | 1 block
PF/C Clark Jr - 4.2 PPG | 6.1 rebounds
SF/PF Alibegovic - (in limited time) 4.1 PPG | 3.1 rebounds 
SG Trimble - 3.1 PPG | 1 rebound
SF Wilson - 2.7 PPG | 1.3 rebounds | .8 blocks

Simon averaging 3.5 assists and Clark averaging just 4.1 points won't happen. You really see Clark and Amar averaging the same?

I do. Possibly. In my head the season plays out with some key performances off the bench by Amar. I don't expect him to be as good as I hoped, which was Donald Emanuel senior season good, but if he isn't the stupidest player we've ever had, he should put together 10/12 solid games as a senior. Some of those games should actually help the team win.

As far as Clark, IDK what to expect from him, but I do know he didn't exactly tear it up at Michigan State, so I'm conservative with his offense. I do however, think that because he was coached by Izzo that he probably knows how to box out. So he should get some boards.

Clark can get 8 and 6 in his sleep.
As for AA, I'm not going to write off a 6'9 240 lb senior, but he really needs to drop this Eurostep SF bullsh*t and take a look at the roster. He needs to be a straight up C/PF -- and I put the C first on purpose.  He's got 25 lbs on everyone not named Clark.

I think Ponds will score around 20, and I expect Ahmed, Clark, and Lovett to be near or (likely) above double figures with Simon and Owens not too far behind....perhaps in the 7-8.5 range. If Lovett is north if 13 ppg, that's a bad sign. I'd happily take 10 and 6. I've got Sid pegged for 5.7 and 3.6, but I'd love to be surprised here.

Quote from: Poison on June 13, 2017, 08:56:11 PM

Quote from: Marillac on June 13, 2017, 04:55:11 PM

Quote from: Poison on June 13, 2017, 01:49:10 PM

Since it's the beginning of the summer, it's a perfect time to day dream about actually being good again.

Here's how I think the player production will play out.
Of course, this is just a guess, so keep that in mind.

Starters
SG Ponds - 18.5 PPG | 4.4 rebounds | 3.1 assists | 2 steals
PG LoVett - 12 PPG | 5.3 assists | 1.9 steals
SF Simon - 6.8 PPG | 4.3 rebounds | 3.5 assists | 2.1 steals
PF Ahmed - 12.1 PPG | 4.8 rebounds | .7 assists
C Owens - 7.5 PPG | 7.1 rebounds | 1.1 assists | 2.2 blocks

Bench
PF/C Yakwe - 3.5 PPG | 2.5 rebounds | 1 block
PF/C Clark Jr - 4.2 PPG | 6.1 rebounds
SF/PF Alibegovic - (in limited time) 4.1 PPG | 3.1 rebounds 
SG Trimble - 3.1 PPG | 1 rebound
SF Wilson - 2.7 PPG | 1.3 rebounds | .8 blocks

Simon averaging 3.5 assists and Clark averaging just 4.1 points won't happen. You really see Clark and Amar averaging the same?

I do. Possibly. In my head the season plays out with some key performances off the bench by Amar. I don't expect him to be as good as I hoped, which was Donald Emanuel senior season good, but if he isn't the stupidest player we've ever had, he should put together 10/12 solid games as a senior. Some of those games should actually help the team win.

As far as Clark, IDK what to expect from him, but I do know he didn't exactly tear it up at Michigan State, so I'm conservative with his offense. I do however, think that because he was coached by Izzo that he probably knows how to box out. So he should get some boards.

Clark can get 8 and 6 in his sleep.
As for AA, I'm not going to write off a 6'9 240 lb senior, but he really needs to drop this Eurostep SF bullsh*t and take a look at the roster. He needs to be a straight up C/PF -- and I put the C first on purpose.  He's got 25 lbs on everyone not named Clark.

I think Ponds will score around 20, and I expect Ahmed, Clark, and Lovett to be near or (likely) above double figures with Simon and Owens not too far behind....perhaps in the 7-8.5 range. If Lovett is north if 13 ppg, that's a bad sign. I'd happily take 10 and 6. I've got Sid pegged for 5.7 and 3.6, but I'd love to be surprised here.

With ellison and mussini gone, I think it will be hard for Lovett not to get 14+. Simon isnt taking any shots away and ahmed might lose a few minutes.