17-18 Player Contributions

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Re: 17-18 Player Contributions
« Reply #120 on: October 07, 2017, 04:02:02 PM »
Any word from practice, likely starting5?

Would expect three guard offense to start season.

Really? I'd expect Lovett/Ponds/Ahmed/Yakwe//Clarke. Owens and Simon first off the bench gives them a lot of flexibility.

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« Reply #121 on: October 07, 2017, 05:48:23 PM »
I don't know who's going to start. Wouldn't be suprised to see Bash at the 4 and Clark at the 5 at times.

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« Reply #122 on: October 07, 2017, 07:22:14 PM »
Any word from practice, likely starting5?

Would expect three guard offense to start season.

Really? I'd expect Lovett/Ponds/Ahmed/Yakwe//Clarke. Owens and Simon first off the bench gives them a lot of flexibility.

Yeah I think they go with Ponds, Simon, LoVett, Bashir & either Yakwe or Owens.  We'll see, but the way they rave about Simon, I think he starts from day one. In any event, I agree there is a lot of flexibility in seven man rotation & hopefully Trimble can give a few minutes now and then. Still a Frosh though onviously.
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Re: 17-18 Player Contributions
« Reply #123 on: October 08, 2017, 01:07:17 AM »
I expect Lovett-Ponds-Ahmed-Clark-Yakwe to start off games. Owens plays as much as his foul situation permits and Simon is a classic energy guy that can be used at multiple postions. 7 man
main rotation with all 7 getting at least 25 mpg.

Trimble is intriguing. 220 lbs with hops and a jumper. That is the profile of a kid that can really surprise some people if he dedicates himself to defense. We should know right away.

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« Reply #124 on: October 08, 2017, 02:06:05 AM »
I really like the Shamorie/Marcus/JSimon/Bash/Yakwe starting lineup. I forsee a breakout year for Tariq however that will eventually have him starting multiple games.
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Re: 17-18 Player Contributions
« Reply #125 on: October 08, 2017, 09:31:28 AM »
Unless Yakwe surpassed Owens in practice, Owens deserves to be in the starting 5, at least for first game of season.

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« Reply #126 on: October 08, 2017, 09:52:54 AM »
Ali will be in the rotation because of the size deficiency.  Hopefully Owens and Yakwe have put on some meat.  I'm thinking Ponds, Lovett, Clark, Owens and Ahmed with Simon see 25 or more off the bench.  Yakwe could be the big surprise if he developed a reliable 15 footer over the summer.  The big problem will be rebounding....Cant run if you don't have the ball.  Guard rebounding will be a big plus.

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« Reply #127 on: October 08, 2017, 09:55:06 AM »
Unless Yakwe surpassed Owens in practice, Owens deserves to be in the starting 5, at least for first game of season.

I agree as far as Owens being much more productive but I still might start Yakwe. Owens one knock was that he gets in foul trouble. The last thing you want to do is Owens to get two fouls a couple minutes into the game and lose him for the whole second half. If he shows he can manage his fouls then yes he should start over yakwe if both play similar to last year.

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« Reply #128 on: October 08, 2017, 09:57:38 AM »
Did everyone forget how much Yakwe regressed last year? Why would deserve to start? If he starts, he's starting out of necessity, and in that case, the season is already in doubt.

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« Reply #129 on: October 08, 2017, 10:17:46 AM »
Did everyone forget how much Yakwe regressed last year? Why would deserve to start? If he starts, he's starting out of necessity, and in that case, the season is already in doubt.

Owens is also much taller and longer.  Yakwe has talent - He could improve and become a vital member o our team this season - but I agree it seems crazy that he'd have surpassed Owens.
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Re: 17-18 Player Contributions
« Reply #130 on: October 08, 2017, 10:34:35 AM »
I really like the Shamorie/Marcus/JSimon/Bash/Yakwe starting lineup. I forsee a breakout year for Tariq however that will eventually have him starting multiple games.

Guards have to play d, otherwise Owens won't play 20 mins a game

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« Reply #131 on: October 08, 2017, 11:01:46 AM »
Did everyone forget how much Yakwe regressed last year? Why would deserve to start? If he starts, he's starting out of necessity, and in that case, the season is already in doubt.

Owens is also much taller and longer.  Yakwe has talent - He could improve and become a vital member o our team this season - but I agree it seems crazy that he'd have surpassed Owens.

The only reason to believe that Yakwe could improve is because he was a good player as a freshman.

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« Reply #132 on: October 08, 2017, 11:14:01 AM »
Who starts is overrated. Who is going to be on the floor when it's a tie game against Providence coming out of the under 4 media timeout? If Owens isn't in foul trouble it's definitely him over Yakwe with the 3 guards on the floor. Think they'd rotate Ahmed/Clark for offense/defense as much as possible

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« Reply #133 on: October 08, 2017, 11:33:30 AM »
I really like the Shamorie/Marcus/JSimon/Bash/Yakwe starting lineup. I forsee a breakout year for Tariq however that will eventually have him starting multiple games.

Guards have to play d, otherwise Owens won't play 20 mins a game

Agree, dude.  If the guards are even adequate on defense, then it'll likely allow Owens to log more minutes and put the team in position to have a decent or better season.
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Re: 17-18 Player Contributions
« Reply #134 on: October 08, 2017, 11:57:04 AM »
Don't think that either Clark or Simon came here and sat out a year to sit on our bench. If they don't both start, they should each still get at least 25 minutes per game.  It's these two largely who will determine how much better this team is than last year's.

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« Reply #135 on: October 08, 2017, 12:02:46 PM »
Still a smaller lineup than most teams overall but good defense, rebounding and versatile scorers can overcome that. 

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« Reply #136 on: October 08, 2017, 12:11:20 PM »
Still a smaller lineup than most teams overall but good defense, rebounding and versatile scorers can overcome that. 

We saw in the 1999/2000 season that great defense, experience and luck with health can overcome height. So, that's all we need now.

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« Reply #137 on: October 08, 2017, 12:58:24 PM »
Still a smaller lineup than most teams overall but good defense, rebounding and versatile scorers can overcome that. 

We saw in the 1999/2000 season that great defense, experience and luck with health can overcome height. So, that's all we need now.

Ha right  ;D

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« Reply #138 on: October 08, 2017, 01:55:16 PM »
Still a smaller lineup than most teams overall but good defense, rebounding and versatile scorers can overcome that. 

We saw in the 1999/2000 season that great defense, experience and luck with health can overcome height. So, that's all we need now.

What that team lacked in height they made up in toughness. Outside of Clarke, not sure who else is going to bring it.

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Re: 17-18 Player Contributions
« Reply #139 on: October 08, 2017, 02:34:02 PM »
Still a smaller lineup than most teams overall but good defense, rebounding and versatile scorers can overcome that. 

We saw in the 1999/2000 season that great defense, experience and luck with health can overcome height. So, that's all we need now.

What that team lacked in height they made up in toughness. Outside of Clarke, not sure who else is going to bring it.

Owens played tough for us. I think it's reasonable that Ponds and LoVett weren't tough as freshman. Let's see how they return this season. Also, Ahmed was a first year player, and he's now staring at what is probably his last chance at any type of NBA contract.
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