Chris Mullin's seat getting hotter?

Quote from: we are sju on January 17, 2018, 04:22:13 PM

Quote from: Foad on January 17, 2018, 04:11:06 PM

Quote from: we are sju on January 17, 2018, 02:14:52 PM

If they are going to just operate the way they have since Louie retired and either go on the cheap (Norm), reach(Norm) or flash over substance(Lavin /Mullin) and then change direction every 4 years or so then yes I think they should consider moving down.

That's a lot of TV money to give up.

I know not going to happen.
Just out of curiosity would you rather own the A10 or stink in BE?
BE now is not BE I grew up with so for me kind of an easy choice.

You're assuming we'd recruit the same caliber of player in the A10 that we do now. We wouldn't. Shamorie Ponds, Justin Simon and Marvin Clark aren't going to a school to play in the A10, and we still wouldn't be the best team in that conference this year. Neither is J'Raan Brooks. There's absolutely no reason to think we'd dominate the A10

Quote from: Foad on January 17, 2018, 04:11:06 PM

Quote from: we are sju on January 17, 2018, 02:14:52 PM

If they are going to just operate the way they have since Louie retired and either go on the cheap (Norm), reach(Norm) or flash over substance(Lavin /Mullin) and then change direction every 4 years or so then yes I think they should consider moving down.

That's a lot of TV money to give up.

I know not going to happen.Just out of curiosity would you rather own the A10 or stink in BE?
BE now is not BE I grew up with so for me kind of an easy choice.

Quote from: Foad on January 17, 2018, 04:11:06 PM

Quote from: we are sju on January 17, 2018, 02:14:52 PM

If they are going to just operate the way they have since Louie retired and either go on the cheap (Norm), reach(Norm) or flash over substance(Lavin /Mullin) and then change direction every 4 years or so then yes I think they should consider moving down.

That's a lot of TV money to give up.

I know not going to happen.
Just out of curiosity would you rather own the A10 or stink in BE?
BE now is not BE I grew up with so for me kind of an easy choice.

Quote from: Foad on January 17, 2018, 04:15:31 PM

Quote from: mjdinkins on January 17, 2018, 03:57:38 PM

Quote from: room112 on January 17, 2018, 03:51:39 PM

Quote from: mjdinkins on January 17, 2018, 02:06:14 PM

Quote from: room112 on January 17, 2018, 01:10:17 PM

Man, it was hard to read this entire thread. But it's quite clear this fan base is stuck in the 80's. St. John's is no longer a destination and hasn't been in quite some time. We haven't won an NCAA game in decades!! We have so many disadvantages against many of the bigger schools who have better resources and way better facilities. It's hard to see how anyone could expect we'd be challenging for 4 and 5 star recruits at this point.

As for Mullin, I don't know if he's the answer, but I'm happy that the rosters seem to be balanced for next year, and we should have a very talented roster. 

There is really only a very, small percentage of people calling for his head this season.  I think most are willing to give him another season.  But, it's hard to deny the brand of ball being witnessed.  You'd have to wonder, if we only win 3 or less conference games.  Like I said, we won twice that many in a MUCH better Big East conference playing only 6 players (5 freshmen and Achiuwa) with no point guard and only one reliable outside shooter.

I don't ever think we can consistently compete with the blue bloods or even a few others who are of similar ilk.  But, I also ask why we can't?  At least, we should occasionally compete, right?  Villanova and Georgetown (before they recently fell off) was able to do it.  So, why can't we?  If you think small, then you'll continue to get small time results. 

I won't argue with you about the quality of play. I hope my post didn't come off to make it seem like I'm satisfied. I'm certainly not.

As far as Georgetown, are you saying that St. John's University is on par with Georgetown, in the big picture of things?

Are you referring to Georgetown of a few years ago or now? 

If you're referring to a few years ago, then why we can't?  We are the Hoyas (likely worse), if you're referring to now.

Pretty sure he's referring to the difference between a shitty commuter school in Jamaica versus a prestigious university in the nation's capital that boasts Bill Clinton, Anthony Scalia and King Felipe of Spain as graduates. The big picture is bigger than basketball.

Yeah, it's bigger to people who are there for anything outside of playing men's basketball.  Well over the majority of these kids playing basketball (or even football) aren't going to a particular school for its prestigious education.  So, yes we are on par with Georgetown or any, other Big East school for that matter.  Academically to Georgtown? No.

I'm very, aware of Georgetown's education.  But, thanks anyway. 

Quote from: we are sju on January 17, 2018, 04:22:13 PM

Quote from: Foad on January 17, 2018, 04:11:06 PM

Quote from: we are sju on January 17, 2018, 02:14:52 PM

If they are going to just operate the way they have since Louie retired and either go on the cheap (Norm), reach(Norm) or flash over substance(Lavin /Mullin) and then change direction every 4 years or so then yes I think they should consider moving down.

That's a lot of TV money to give up.

I know not going to happen.
Just out of curiosity would you rather own the A10 or stink in BE?
BE now is not BE I grew up with so for me kind of an easy choice.

Own the A10?  That's like saying you're #1 in the rotary phone market. 

Quote from: mjdinkins on January 17, 2018, 04:23:23 PM

Quote from: Foad on January 17, 2018, 04:15:31 PM

Quote from: mjdinkins on January 17, 2018, 03:57:38 PM

Quote from: room112 on January 17, 2018, 03:51:39 PM

Quote from: mjdinkins on January 17, 2018, 02:06:14 PM

Quote from: room112 on January 17, 2018, 01:10:17 PM

Man, it was hard to read this entire thread. But it's quite clear this fan base is stuck in the 80's. St. John's is no longer a destination and hasn't been in quite some time. We haven't won an NCAA game in decades!! We have so many disadvantages against many of the bigger schools who have better resources and way better facilities. It's hard to see how anyone could expect we'd be challenging for 4 and 5 star recruits at this point.

As for Mullin, I don't know if he's the answer, but I'm happy that the rosters seem to be balanced for next year, and we should have a very talented roster. 

There is really only a very, small percentage of people calling for his head this season.  I think most are willing to give him another season.  But, it's hard to deny the brand of ball being witnessed.  You'd have to wonder, if we only win 3 or less conference games.  Like I said, we won twice that many in a MUCH better Big East conference playing only 6 players (5 freshmen and Achiuwa) with no point guard and only one reliable outside shooter.

I don't ever think we can consistently compete with the blue bloods or even a few others who are of similar ilk.  But, I also ask why we can't?  At least, we should occasionally compete, right?  Villanova and Georgetown (before they recently fell off) was able to do it.  So, why can't we?  If you think small, then you'll continue to get small time results. 

I won't argue with you about the quality of play. I hope my post didn't come off to make it seem like I'm satisfied. I'm certainly not.

As far as Georgetown, are you saying that St. John's University is on par with Georgetown, in the big picture of things?

Are you referring to Georgetown of a few years ago or now? 

If you're referring to a few years ago, then why we can't?  We are the Hoyas (likely worse), if you're referring to now.

Pretty sure he's referring to the difference between a shitty commuter school in Jamaica versus a prestigious university in the nation's capital that boasts Bill Clinton, Anthony Scalia and King Felipe of Spain as graduates. The big picture is bigger than basketball.

Yeah, it's bigger to people who are there for anything outside of playing men's basketball.  Well over the majority of these kids playing basketball (or even football) aren't going to a particular school for its prestigious education.  So, yes we are on par with Georgetown or any, other Big East school for that matter.  Academically to Georgtown? No.

I'm very, aware of Georgetown's education.  But, thanks anyway. 

Too bad, you don't, have one, you'd use, fewer, commas.

So, anyhoo, I'm surprised that you think that the amenities offered by a particular university don't effect its ability to recruit student athletes. That's seems like a fallacy to me. Some kids go to Stanford and Notre Dame and Dook for sports plus the educational opportunities. Some go to football schools for the facilities and the large cash payments. Some go to Arizona and Florida for the weather and the trim. There's plenty of reasons to go to Georgetown - academics, location - and few to go to St John's.

Go F yourself, punk

and hope you're capable of grading papers since someone else wasn't.  Lethargy isn't only relegated to our staff.  Where's that darn mailbox?  Maybe, I should dig up the pic, bitch ass.

Quote from: mjdinkins on January 17, 2018, 05:02:58 PM

Go F yourself, punk

Golly, you sound, ferocious. I, nearly wet, myself.

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and hope you're capable of grading papers since someone else wasn't.  Lethargy isn't only relegated to our staff.  Where's that darn mailbox?  Maybe, I should dig up the pic, bitch ass.

Dig up whatever you want stupid. I live at 91 Elliot Road, come on by, happy hour starts at noon, but be advised the dogs haven't mauled anyone since those two Jehovah Witnesses around Labor Day.

Quote from: we are sju on January 17, 2018, 02:14:52 PM

If they are going to just operate the way they have since Louie retired and either go on the cheap (Norm), reach(Norm) or flash over substance(Lavin /Mullin) and then change direction every 4 years or so then yes I think they should consider moving down.

That's a lot of TV money to give up.

Quote from: room112 on January 17, 2018, 01:10:17 PM

Man, it was hard to read this entire thread. But it's quite clear this fan base is stuck in the 80's. St. John's is no longer a destination and hasn't been in quite some time. We haven't won an NCAA game in decades!! We have so many disadvantages against many of the bigger schools who have better resources and way better facilities. It's hard to see how anyone could expect we'd be challenging for 4 and 5 star recruits at this point.

As for Mullin, I don't know if he's the answer, but I'm happy that the rosters seem to be balanced for next year, and we should have a very talented roster. 

There is really only a very, small percentage of people calling for his head this season.  I think most are willing to give him another season.  But, it's hard to deny the brand of ball being witnessed.  You'd have to wonder, if we only win 3 or less conference games.  Like I said, we won twice that many in a MUCH better Big East conference playing only 6 players (5 freshmen and Achiuwa) with no point guard and only one reliable outside shooter.

So what you are saying we competed without cupards (cupboards)

Quote from: Foad on January 17, 2018, 04:11:06 PM

Quote from: we are sju on January 17, 2018, 02:14:52 PM

If they are going to just operate the way they have since Louie retired and either go on the cheap (Norm), reach(Norm) or flash over substance(Lavin /Mullin) and then change direction every 4 years or so then yes I think they should consider moving down.

That's a lot of TV money to give up.

I know not going to happen.
Just out of curiosity would you rather own the A10 or stink in BE?
BE now is not BE I grew up with so for me kind of an easy choice.

Quote from: Foad on January 17, 2018, 04:15:31 PM

Quote from: mjdinkins on January 17, 2018, 03:57:38 PM

Quote from: room112 on January 17, 2018, 03:51:39 PM

Quote from: mjdinkins on January 17, 2018, 02:06:14 PM

Quote from: room112 on January 17, 2018, 01:10:17 PM

Man, it was hard to read this entire thread. But it's quite clear this fan base is stuck in the 80's. St. John's is no longer a destination and hasn't been in quite some time. We haven't won an NCAA game in decades!! We have so many disadvantages against many of the bigger schools who have better resources and way better facilities. It's hard to see how anyone could expect we'd be challenging for 4 and 5 star recruits at this point.

As for Mullin, I don't know if he's the answer, but I'm happy that the rosters seem to be balanced for next year, and we should have a very talented roster. 

There is really only a very, small percentage of people calling for his head this season.  I think most are willing to give him another season.  But, it's hard to deny the brand of ball being witnessed.  You'd have to wonder, if we only win 3 or less conference games.  Like I said, we won twice that many in a MUCH better Big East conference playing only 6 players (5 freshmen and Achiuwa) with no point guard and only one reliable outside shooter.

I don't ever think we can consistently compete with the blue bloods or even a few others who are of similar ilk.  But, I also ask why we can't?  At least, we should occasionally compete, right?  Villanova and Georgetown (before they recently fell off) was able to do it.  So, why can't we?  If you think small, then you'll continue to get small time results. 

I won't argue with you about the quality of play. I hope my post didn't come off to make it seem like I'm satisfied. I'm certainly not.

As far as Georgetown, are you saying that St. John's University is on par with Georgetown, in the big picture of things?

Are you referring to Georgetown of a few years ago or now? 

If you're referring to a few years ago, then why we can't?  We are the Hoyas (likely worse), if you're referring to now.

Pretty sure he's referring to the difference between a shitty commuter school in Jamaica versus a prestigious university in the nation's capital that boasts Bill Clinton, Anthony Scalia and King Felipe of Spain as graduates. The big picture is bigger than basketball.

Yeah, it's bigger to people who are there for anything outside of playing men's basketball.  Well over the majority of these kids playing basketball (or even football) aren't going to a particular school for its prestigious education.  So, yes we are on par with Georgetown or any, other Big East school for that matter.  Academically to Georgetown? No.

I'm very, aware of Georgetown's education.  But, thanks anyway. 

Literally what do we have to offer any incoming recruit that can top anything Georgetown has to offer, from education, to facilities, to recent history of success?

Your punk ass attempt to hide, but I'm very well aware.  Besides, in my initial post to your pussy ass, I said the "majority."  But, nicely of you to parse words, douche.

Quote from: room112 on January 18, 2018, 09:55:23 AM

Literally what do we have to offer any incoming recruit that can top anything Georgetown has to offer, from education, to facilities, to recent history of success?

The best fan base in the world.

And I thought I was the most optimistic person on this board

Quote from: mjdinkins on January 17, 2018, 05:28:12 PM

Your punk ass attempt to hide, but I'm very well aware.  Besides, in my initial post to your pussy ass, I said the "majority."  But, nicely of you to parse words, douche.

You're, silly.