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But he can't expect to go 1-17 in his 3rd year and do the same thing say go 7-11 and claim that is an improvement.   He cannot benefit from this disaster,  one step forward next year ain't goid enough and he knows it.

You can bet several folks will view it as improvement, and will point to it as a reason to keep him for a 5th season.

Quote from: fordham96 on January 27, 2018, 05:07:12 PM

But he can't expect to go 1-17 in his 3rd year and do the same thing say go 7-11 and claim that is an improvement.   He cannot benefit from this disaster,  one step forward next year ain't goid enough and he knows it.

You can bet several folks will view it as improvement, and will point to it as a reason to keep him for a 5th season.

+1     We all have now entered THE TWILIGHT ZONE!

Quote from: TONYD3 on January 27, 2018, 04:25:44 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on January 27, 2018, 04:24:26 PM

All I'm going to say from here on in is it better be a big turnaround next year...a big one.

You know better then that. Not saying you have to cry. But you know better.

Happened

Quote from: Poison on January 27, 2018, 04:31:33 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on January 27, 2018, 04:24:26 PM

All I'm going to say from here on in is it better be a big turnaround next year...a big one.

When was the last time a D1 team went winless in their conference and had a big turn around?

Plenty but it doesn't matter because they key is next year he doesn't benefit from this year being so bad.
Here's my point, last year by winning 7 games he benefited from going 1-17 the year before.  Because to be fair his roster and opportunity to recruit was limited his 1st year.

But he can't expect to go 1-17 in his 3rd year and do the same thing say go 7-11 and claim that is an improvement.   He cannot benefit from this disaster,  one step forward next year ain't goid enough and he knows it.

We have role players and freshman coming in next year. To expect 7 wins is ambitious. I know the University’s plan is to keep him. They need to hear it and they need to feel it before they’ll make a change, but again, if they fire Mullin and hire a different incompetent coach what is the point?

Quote from: mjdinkins on January 27, 2018, 05:11:14 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on January 27, 2018, 05:07:12 PM

But he can't expect to go 1-17 in his 3rd year and do the same thing say go 7-11 and claim that is an improvement.   He cannot benefit from this disaster,  one step forward next year ain't goid enough and he knows it.

You can bet several folks will view it as improvement, and will point to it as a reason to keep him for a 5th season.

+1     We all have now entered THE TWILIGHT ZONE!

Only the insane would want to fire him.

after looking at hinkle and creighton, for gods sake do something about carnesecca.......something

after looking at hinkle and creighton, for gods sake do something about carnesecca.......something

Hinkle And creighton ain’t the garden.

we can't get 50% of MSG full w/ paid SJU fans which is why we barely play there

post game quotes

http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/012718aaa.html

Quote from: fordham96 on January 27, 2018, 05:07:12 PM

But he can't expect to go 1-17 in his 3rd year and do the same thing say go 7-11 and claim that is an improvement.   He cannot benefit from this disaster,  one step forward next year ain't goid enough and he knows it.

You can bet several folks will view it as improvement, and will point to it as a reason to keep him for a 5th season.

I don't doubt that but they won't decide.

we can't get 50% of MSG full w/ paid SJU fans which is why we barely play there

A good team could. Not going to get 6000 at alumni hall if you lose every game also.

You guys seem to be enjoying this way too much.

+1000

Quote from: Lycidas on January 27, 2018, 02:00:08 PM

You guys seem to be enjoying this way too much.

+1000

I personally hate it. However, I hope it gets worse. Winning a few games would be awful. Rock bottom has to happen. Any sliver of hope and we are stuck with Santa.

Quote from: Lycidas on January 27, 2018, 02:00:08 PM

You guys seem to be enjoying this way too much.

+1000

Stupid. +999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999.         Yeah spent almost 700 dollars on season tickets to watch lousy basketball. Wear St. John's tees, shorts, sweats, caps so i can be ridiculed by total strangers. More like you guys don't mind the losing because you are sadomasochists (I know F$ckFoad is).

Quote from: section3 on January 27, 2018, 06:12:42 PM

Quote from: Lycidas on January 27, 2018, 02:00:08 PM

You guys seem to be enjoying this way too much.

+1000

Quote from: Celtics11 on January 27, 2018, 06:22:34 PM

Quote from: section3 on January 27, 2018, 06:12:42 PM

Quote from: Lycidas on January 27, 2018, 02:00:08 PM

You guys seem to be enjoying this way too much.

+1000

Stupid. +999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999.         Yeah spent almost 700 dollars on season tickets to watch lousy basketball. Wear St. John's tees, shorts, sweats, caps so i can be ridiculed by total strangers. More like you guys don't mind the losing because you are sadomasochists (I know F$ckFoad is).

Stupid. +999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999.         Yeah spent almost 700 dollars on season tickets to watch lousy basketball. Wear St. John's tees, shorts, sweats, caps so i can be ridiculed by total strangers. More like you guys don't mind the losing because you are sadomasochists (I know F$ckFoad is).

Not ridiculing u. In fact I get a kick out of most of your posts. But poison, who I think is a very passionate fan, seems to hate Mullin.

And sometimes it comes across as if some on the board would rather us continue to lose in hopes of getting Mullin out.

By the way, I spend the same for seasons tix since 1974 and am as pissed about current situation as anyone on either boards..

Quote from: Celtics11 on January 27, 2018, 06:22:34 PM

Quote from: section3 on January 27, 2018, 06:12:42 PM

Quote from: Lycidas on January 27, 2018, 02:00:08 PM

You guys seem to be enjoying this way too much.

+1000

Quote from: Celtics11 on January 27, 2018, 06:22:34 PM

Quote from: section3 on January 27, 2018, 06:12:42 PM

Quote from: Lycidas on January 27, 2018, 02:00:08 PM

You guys seem to be enjoying this way too much.

+1000

Stupid. +999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999.         Yeah spent almost 700 dollars on season tickets to watch lousy basketball. Wear St. John's tees, shorts, sweats, caps so i can be ridiculed by total strangers. More like you guys don't mind the losing because you are sadomasochists (I know F$ckFoad is).

Stupid. +999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999.         Yeah spent almost 700 dollars on season tickets to watch lousy basketball. Wear St. John's tees, shorts, sweats, caps so i can be ridiculed by total strangers. More like you guys don't mind the losing because you are sadomasochists (I know F$ckFoad is).

Not ridiculing u. In fact I get a kick out of most of your posts. But poison, who I think is a very passionate fan, seems to hate Mullin.

And sometimes it comes across as if some on the board would rather us continue to lose in hopes of getting Mullin out.

By the way, I spend the same for seasons tix since 1974 and am as pissed about current situation as anyone on either boards..

Good to know. No harm no foul though the ref will still call one on us because WE ARE ST. JOHN'S!

Quote from: section3 on January 27, 2018, 06:12:42 PM

Quote from: Lycidas on January 27, 2018, 02:00:08 PM

You guys seem to be enjoying this way too much.

+1000

I personally hate it. However, I hope it gets worse. Winning a few games would be awful. Rock bottom has to happen. Any sliver of hope and we are stuck with Santa.

Even though that might help us sooner than later I can’t do it. I can’t sell my tickets to Duke fans either. Mullin has lost the team, so I wouldn’t worry about losing out. Only team we might beat is DePaul and that’s nowhere near the gimme we thought it would be.

This team stinks, no doubt but did any of you think we'd win games on the road in conference with no Lovett and Ponds shooting 0-12? If so, you guys think our other players are a lot better than I do.

Quote from: TONYD3 on January 27, 2018, 06:18:58 PM

Quote from: section3 on January 27, 2018, 06:12:42 PM

Quote from: Lycidas on January 27, 2018, 02:00:08 PM

You guys seem to be enjoying this way too much.

+1000

I personally hate it. However, I hope it gets worse. Winning a few games would be awful. Rock bottom has to happen. Any sliver of hope and we are stuck with Santa.

Even though that might help us sooner than later I can’t do it. I can’t sell my tickets to Duke fans either. Mullin has lost the team, so I wouldn’t worry about losing out. Only team we might beat is DePaul and that’s nowhere near the gimme we thought it would be.

It's not a gimme at all in fact I'm sure DePaul will be favored at home.

Quote from: Celtics11 on January 27, 2018, 06:22:34 PM

Quote from: section3 on January 27, 2018, 06:12:42 PM

Quote from: Lycidas on January 27, 2018, 02:00:08 PM

You guys seem to be enjoying this way too much.

+1000

Quote from: Celtics11 on January 27, 2018, 06:22:34 PM

Quote from: section3 on January 27, 2018, 06:12:42 PM

Quote from: Lycidas on January 27, 2018, 02:00:08 PM

You guys seem to be enjoying this way too much.

+1000

Stupid. +999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999.         Yeah spent almost 700 dollars on season tickets to watch lousy basketball. Wear St. John's tees, shorts, sweats, caps so i can be ridiculed by total strangers. More like you guys don't mind the losing because you are sadomasochists (I know F$ckFoad is).

Stupid. +999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999,999.         Yeah spent almost 700 dollars on season tickets to watch lousy basketball. Wear St. John's tees, shorts, sweats, caps so i can be ridiculed by total strangers. More like you guys don't mind the losing because you are sadomasochists (I know F$ckFoad is).

Not ridiculing u. In fact I get a kick out of most of your posts. But poison, who I think is a very passionate fan, seems to hate Mullin.

And sometimes it comes across as if some on the board would rather us continue to lose in hopes of getting Mullin out.

By the way, I spend the same for seasons tix since 1974 and am as pissed about current situation as anyone on either boards..

Hate is too strong a word. I dislike him. Absolutely. I dislike anyone who is as arrogant as Chris Mullin. He had no business even sugghesting that he could do this job with zero experience. Why anyone here believed he could is embarrassing.

In the post quotes on the red storm site Mullin said that in 7/10 BE games we were close. He also said that we have talent. And that our core 5/6 guys have improved. Ponds has regressed. Clark was decent a month ago. He’s awful now. Yakwe showed some signs of improvement, but his improvement is pretty hard to identify in conference play.

Mullin is looking for reasons for people to believe in him. I had enough of the vanity after Lavin, but at least weren’t winless when he was here.

St.John’s University isn’t smart enough to recognize what a terrible hire they made. Combine that with a rookie coach, a rookie staff and we have a full on disaster. That’s what I hate. I don’t hate Mullin.

Mullin is either arrogant or stupid or maybe both. A 9 game losing streak and he hasn't made one adjustment offensively or on the defense. Maybe he doesn't give a$hit and he's happy to take the money. This is the poorest coached team in the history of St Johns B B . It's over . You cold send Mullin out to recruit with a bag of $100 bills and He'll come home empty. If he really cares about the University he'll resign.