Niagara Post Game

Just ugly, sloppy, no hustle, low iq basketball tonight. I'll be on the train for the next 3 hours. I'll have updates when I get back home.

norm's gotta go

Still someone please tell me why we watched the niagara broadcast. Are we that pathetic that we not only have some games go completely un televised and when we get to watch on tv it's the purple eagle b cast on SNY!!!!!!

that's because niagara is more advanced than we are.

the only part i enjoyed about this game at all was hearing the band played "impression that i get" by MMB. great song.

absolutely disgraceful.  nobody showed any care for the basketball, there was none ZERO ZIPP NADDA help defense played on too many possessions.  it seemed like sju was playing in full denial throughout the game on too many possessions.  two isolation plays for geno down the stretch? that was real brilliant. the players seemed to be apathetic throughout the game and that falls on the head coach.

also, i dont know how accurate this was but i watched the game on tv and there was ZERO crowd noise.  the christ the king-st raymonds game i was at last night was ten times louder than CA sounded. 

Mase and Rob Thomas back in action 12/19 bring on Ohio U.

Be interestin to see what Poison bring.
I just question y'all from thinkin we got ourselves a savior. Maybe we do, but odds say it take time.

When it really comes down to it...

St. John's is just not a good basketball team this year and that fact is not going to change over the next 2 1/2 months...

To say they aren't a good basketball team is fair at this point. I think we have good players and could have a good team but we aren't playing well as a team or individuals. We've failed our "tests" early on in the season but lets see if we can heat up in Miami?

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 Tough "L", This game may be with them for a while. Mase & Thomas should give them some moral boast, there going to need it.  Tomas's injury really hurt,they had little impact in the paint with out him, He may not be an impact player but his game has improved over the years. If Niagara hit a few of their second half fouls shots the fans would have been on Union Turnpk before the refs. I keep telling myself that most of the Redmen were in h.s. gyms this time last year & 3 of our top 7 players are injured.  That said ,to lose to a Maac team on your home court........

When it really comes down to it...

St. John's is just not a good basketball team this year and that fact is not going to change over the next 2 1/2 months...

Sound mo like a prediction than a fact bre.

Me, I always gots me some hope. Cause if y'all dont got it, what the point?

Where was the defense intensity we saw in the last 30 seconds?  We ought to play like that all game.

The lack of depth without TJ playing hurt is tremendously.  He may not be great, but he can play meaningful minutes.  Once Coker/Burrell fouled out, it was practically over.

Quote from: pmg911 on December 16, 2007, 12:20:16 AM

When it really comes down to it...

St. John's is just not a good basketball team this year and that fact is not going to change over the next 2 1/2 months...

Sound mo like a prediction than a fact bre.

Me, I always gots me some hope. Cause if y'all dont got it, what the point?

I'm right on with you Choz about the hope man.  So many of you are so down already you shouldnt even bother watching or cheering for this team all season.  I think most of you dont even mind if we lose bc you know you can just bash norm and if we win you can put your pom poms back on and say how you are such a fan blah blah.

Quote from: pmg911 on December 16, 2007, 12:20:16 AM

When it really comes down to it...

St. John's is just not a good basketball team this year and that fact is not going to change over the next 2 1/2 months...

Sound mo like a prediction than a fact bre.

Me, I always gots me some hope. Cause if y'all dont got it, what the point?

Choz..  you know I respect you...

But a prediction would be saying there is no way the team wins 14 games this year...

It always good to have hope..   but false hope does no one any good...   as a true basketball fan.. can you honestly look at this team and think they are any good.?    its not being negative..  its not bashing Norm..   its just being objective and honest...    

Guys are honestly hoping for a major boost from a kid that hasn't yet to play a game of college basketball and is coming off a devastating knee injury...     the same guy the coach has publically said to NOT exepct much from...   a guy that is NOT going to play 20 minutes a night...

At the beginning of the year I thought the team would only win 13 - 14 games...   and they have now lost two of the games I thought they were going to win before the year started...  tehy might steal a win against Cincy & DePaul but that is it...

Quote from: Choz4Life on December 16, 2007, 09:46:16 AM

Quote from: pmg911 on December 16, 2007, 12:20:16 AM

When it really comes down to it...

St. John's is just not a good basketball team this year and that fact is not going to change over the next 2 1/2 months...

Sound mo like a prediction than a fact bre.

Me, I always gots me some hope. Cause if y'all dont got it, what the point?

I'm right on with you Choz about the hope man.  So many of you are so down already you shouldnt even bother watching or cheering for this team all season.  I think most of you dont even mind if we lose bc you know you can just bash norm and if we win you can put your pom poms back on and say how you are such a fan blah blah.

Scooby. . there might be part of the fan base you are correct about...

BUT. . I am definitely in the anti-Norm Roberts camp..  I just think he is a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE game coach..  and proves it every game...

That being said..     I never ever want St. John's to lose....   it pains my stomach to see the lack of success...

Any true fan never wants them to lose...   

the thing i don't understand is the EXCUSE 7 freshman... norm put HIMSELF into that situation and it's his fault we are that inexpericenced.  heading into his fourth year i wouldn't expect having 7 freshman and still losing games to niagara and being LUCKY to make the NIT...

Here is the thing, we are 6 games into the season.  Do the team and the program a favor and stand by this team for the rest of the season.  Most would consider me a Normie but I more than probably most criticize and scream at Norm during the games.  Thing is Norm is the head coach till atleast the end of the season.  I know many people want his head and I dont totally disagree but none of us that post on these boards have the pull or the wallet to sway Father Harrington one way or the other.  This team can be a decent team if Mase and Thomas can come back strong.  That might be a big IF but if you dont have hope why are you a fan.  This isnt the first game we are suppose to win this year that we will lose and we will win a couple of upsets this year too.  Remember guys everyone knew this year would have its ups and downs, so lets just watch it play out.  This may seem like a rant to some but my final point that I would like to leave everyone with is: This team might not be where you would have wanted 4 years ago but atleast we still have a team to cheer for.

Keep The Faith - STJ Fan 4 Life

Here is the thing, we are 6 games into the season.  Do the team and the program a favor and stand by this team for the rest of the season.  Most would consider me a Normie but I more than probably most criticize and scream at Norm during the games.  Thing is Norm is the head coach till atleast the end of the season.  I know many people want his head and I dont totally disagree but none of us that post on these boards have the pull or the wallet to sway Father Harrington one way or the other.  This team can be a decent team if Mase and Thomas can come back strong.  That might be a big IF but if you dont have hope why are you a fan.  This isnt the first game we are suppose to win this year that we will lose and we will win a couple of upsets this year too.  Remember guys everyone knew this year would have its ups and downs, so lets just watch it play out.  This may seem like a rant to some but my final point that I would like to leave everyone with is: This team might not be where you would have wanted 4 years ago but atleast we still have a team to cheer for.

Keep The Faith - STJ Fan 4 Life

At least we have a team to cheer for??   I cant believe sju bball has come to this.  So i guess if the team didnt fold and made it through the year it was a good one.