Dixon Transferring

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goredmen

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Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2019, 02:33:30 PM »
Anecdotally it seems that guys that have big freshmen seasons at a very low level struggle when transferring up. After that big season people think they were under-recruited but perhaps they are just meant to be volume scorers at a low level. That said, there are plenty of grad transfers from low levels that contribute to some very good teams.

Will be interesting to see if this changes Matt's approach regarding low-level transfers moving forward. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see another low-level transfer for quite some time.

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Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2019, 02:38:12 PM »
Unfortunately there will undoubtedly be people calling him soft or a coward for leaving but the kid has to do what's best for him. We've definitely benefitted from kids leaving similar situations at other places to come to a better situation here. Can't have it both ways

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Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2019, 02:38:38 PM »
Anecdotally it seems that guys that have big freshmen seasons at a very low level struggle when transferring up. After that big season people think they were under-recruited but perhaps they are just meant to be volume scorers at a low level. That said, there are plenty of grad transfers from low levels that contribute to some very good teams.

Will be interesting to see if this changes Matt's approach regarding low-level transfers moving forward. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see another low-level transfer for quite some time.

Memories of John Hempel who was also a freshman of the year in a smaller conf. (UMASS) and hardly made a dent in the Big East in the 80's
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Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2019, 02:39:40 PM »
Anecdotally it seems that guys that have big freshmen seasons at a very low level struggle when transferring up. After that big season people think they were under-recruited but perhaps they are just meant to be volume scorers at a low level. That said, there are plenty of grad transfers from low levels that contribute to some very good teams.

Will be interesting to see if this changes Matt's approach regarding low-level transfers moving forward. I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see another low-level transfer for quite some time.

I’m not convinced he couldn’t have been a contributor. Just think his minutes of late and incoming talent might have gave him reason to get out.
*wipes ketchup from his eyes* - I guess Heinz sight isn’t 20/20.

Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2019, 02:46:07 PM »
Memories of John Hempel who was also a freshman of the year in a smaller conf. (UMASS) and hardly made a dent in the Big East in the 80's

Hempel, Dixon, and Bangura are three players who did not work out here, after transferring up.

However, Lamont Middleton sure as heck worked out, though he had 2 years experience at Hartford.

Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2019, 02:46:13 PM »
Seems odd to sit out an entire year just to quit after a few games of not getting many minutes.

If he wanted easy guaranteed minutes, he should have stayed at Quinnipiac.

I'm not thrilled about this but I am excited to see what Williams can do with extended playing time.

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Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2019, 02:47:07 PM »
I’m not convinced he couldn’t have been a contributor. Just think his minutes of late and incoming talent might have gave him reason to get out.

He definitely could have contributed but probably not to the point that people expected him to when he transferred here. He was expected to be instant offense off the bench this year with a chance to become a go-to guy a couple years down the road. It's clear his ceiling is far lower than that at this level.

When he caught the pass and then traveled under the basket against Marquette I said to myself that this game is just too fast for him. Maybe that's an overreaction based on one play, maybe it's not. He obviously fell out of favor with the staff and if he was going to play less than 10 mpg the rest of the year then no reason to stay from his perspective.

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Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2019, 02:47:13 PM »
Hempel, Dixon, and Bangura are three players who did not work out here, after transferring up.

However, Lamont Middleton sure as heck worked out, though he had 2 years experience at Hartford.

Forgot about Bangura - Monmouth college? 

Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2019, 02:56:08 PM »
Iona

goredmen

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Re: Dixon Transferring
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Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2019, 02:59:30 PM »
Mikey doesn't like it.

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Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2019, 03:00:04 PM »
See and we were agreeing on Mullin stuff and anti -Tony stuff but then you went off the rails.
Kid was lacking ability and size but had some skills. Unfortunately he did not play hard and staff found better options and he pouted.
This is not the movie One on One. There was no evil plan. Kid was not that good, did not play hard and pouted. Time to go.

It doesn't have to be a conspiracy.  It could be as simple as Dixon approaching Mullin to talk about his role being less than expected and Mullin giving him a straight answer.

Mikey:  "Coach, I love playing for you and being at St. John's but I came here to have a bigger role. I know the NBA is not realistic for me, but I can make some $ playing professionally overseas if I play more in college."

Coach: "Mikey, you are a great part of the team.  Regardless of what WASJU posts about you, you give great effort, but minutes off the bench will go to the guys that play the best defense.  Right now that is Trimble and Williams.  Next year will be tough too with Mack and Wright.  I'd love to have you here in a reserve role, but I would understand if you wanted to go somewhere to pay more minutes. I'll support any decision you make."




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Re: Dixon Transferring
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Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2019, 03:04:40 PM »
Forgot about Bangura - Monmouth college? 

Speaking of Bangura, he approached Jarvis and simply expressed reservations about his role and thinking about transferring and Jarvis gave him a week to think about it.  When Bangura came back and said he changed his mind, Jarvis refused to take him back...and it was all on an ESPN documentary!  Jarvis' next meeting after that was with me and a few other students. Awkward!


Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2019, 03:05:00 PM »
You think he's that bad? Geez

Lol. He can score at that level. McGill is graduating

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Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2019, 03:08:02 PM »
The kid was a decent bench option. He wasn't nearly as inept as some here are making him out to be.

That said, Williams has been coming on as of late. The last 4 games or so he's gotten more into the flow on offense and is starting to show his athleticism.

Let's hope he keeps progressing because we need some productive bench options.

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Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2019, 03:12:03 PM »
The kid was a decent bench option. He wasn't nearly as inept as some here are making him out to be.

That said, Williams has been coming on as of late. The last 4 games or so he's gotten more into the flow on offense and is starting to show his athleticism.

Let's hope he keeps progressing because we need some productive bench options.

I don't think he was bad. I just don't think he would have been an inpactful player on this level and could have developed into a solid starter, absent Ponds 

Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2019, 03:18:48 PM »
I liked Dixon’s skill set and think people are being a bit unfair with their criticism. Good luck to him going forward.

Hopefully Williams ends up being a decent scorer away from the basket.

Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2019, 03:25:10 PM »
The kid was a decent bench option. He wasn't nearly as inept as some here are making him out to be.

That said, Williams has been coming on as of late. The last 4 games or so he's gotten more into the flow on offense and is starting to show his athleticism.

Let's hope he keeps progressing because we need some productive bench options.

No offense to Trimble who does things I like but if you can't beat out Trimble........

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Re: Dixon Transferring
« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2019, 03:38:53 PM »
No offense to Trimble who does things I like but if you can't beat out Trimble........

I hear what you are saying, but Trimble is a really good fit for this team with his strength.  Mase doesn't see it, but he really does remind me of how Chudney complemented the starters on the Postell teams--though they obviously have much different games. 

G-Will now becomes the spark plug and Trimble becomes the guy who holds serve. I kind of like it.