Dixon Transferring

He's been a defensive liability all year and 7 minutes combined over the first 2 BE games.

Yup some on this board watch something different than what is actually going on. I am convinced some on here are actually watching friends reruns and posting anyway.

Actually it is.

https://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2018/11/23/18109113/ian-steere-st-johns-transfer-nc-state

"Big man will join St. John’s in the spring, likely paying own way, and will be a big presence next season."

Next season man, not midseason this year.

If there was somebody to replace him with we would have and he would have been shown the door.

What’s your point anyway? Is it that coaches wouldn’t tell a player to leave if they needed to open up his scholarship for somebody better? If it is then you’re laughably naive. Look at what happened at Nevada this summer.

College coaches are among the scummiest people on the planet up there with politicians and lawyers. They will be in a recruit’s living room one day assuring him and his parents that he’ll be there for all 4 of that kid’s college years and the next week that coach will be at an introductory press conference at another school.

Again I ask, why are you so vehemently opposed to kids doing what they think is in their best interest?

I don't see midseason as being best interest unless something else was going on. The excuse is playing time,my argument  is 2 games.

Next season man, not midseason this year.

Steere is joining the team the 2nd semester of this year. He would have had to pay his own way for that semester as there were already 13 players on scholarship. With Dixon leaving now, Steere takes that scholarship and doesn't have to pay his own way for a semester.

I don't see midseason as being best interest unless something else was going on. The excuse is playing time,my argument  is 2 games.

This would be a fair argument if he didn't use his redshirt season already. Had he left at the end of this season instead, he would have had to sit out all of next year again without redshirting. He would have lost his full junior season of eligibility

Steere is joining the team the 2nd semester of this year. He would have had to pay his own way for that semester as there were already 13 players on scholarship. With Dixon leaving now, Steere takes that scholarship and doesn't have to pay his own way for a semester.

Not sure if he is even eligible

He should be eligible at least by next December, if not sooner

Let’s not be so quick to bad mouth Dixon. I wouldn’t rule out him being pushed out by the staff. We do need the scholarships. Welcome to college basketball.

Not sure if he is even eligible

He should be eligible at least by next December, if not sooner

Right, he's not eligible this year but will be next year. But Dixon's scholarship is being used for Steere now

Right, he's not eligible this year but will be next year. But Dixon's scholarship is being used for Steere now

Ok makes sense from an open scholarship point of view, but not from the staffs pov giving a scholly to ineligible player

Better off keeping him until season end...this makes me believe it was all MDs decisioallHe was upset after 2 games over playing time and left.

Yup some on this board watch something different than what is actually going on. I am convinced some on here are actually watching friends reruns and posting anyway.

Agreed, first the staff recruited over him with Eli Wright, to a degree Heron, another guard was chosen in Caraher and then Mack. If AMase's point is correct that he would have to apply for a waiver had he transferred in May, it looks like the Steere commit was the dagger for his ship weeks ago. The minutes played at the tail end of the semester read that to be true. Hence a slow death @survivedc

I'm surprised that we all didn't realize that they were +1 on ships with the Steere commit and didn't start speculating for a inevitable transfer at semester's end when he officially joined the team.

Let’s not be so quick to bad mouth Dixon. I wouldn’t rule out him being pushed out by the staff. We do need the scholarships. Welcome to college basketball.

I would hope not. We need depth this season, pushing him out while he is a contributor would be a huge mistake.

I think he just looked at his situation, realized Williams is only going to get better, with more talented guards coming in next year, and thought the best way for him to maximize his collegiate playing career was to go elsewhere. I don't fault him, although I think he panicked a bit too early and could have been a key cog for a tournament team this season if he was patient. 

Right, he's not eligible this year but will be next year. But Dixon's scholarship is being used for Steere now

How can anyone think that we convinced Steere to transfer here by paying his way through the second semester? A transfer was inevitable we all just didn't realize it.

How can anyone think that we convinced Steere to transfer here by paying his way through the second semester? A transfer was inevitable we all just didn't realize it.

FTR Andre Drummond was technically a walk on his freshman year as they didn’t have enough scholarships. It would be strange but not inconceivable.

I don't think it's out of the question that Dixon approached Mullin about his role at some point prior to Steere commiting 

This all just seems too convenient for me.

For those who think this doesn't happen, please watch this video from ESPN. 6:00 mark Alpha Bangura tells Jarvis he might want to do something else.


https://youtu.be/mFUMPXcHrLY

I don't think it's out of the question that Dixon approached Mullin about his role at some point prior to Steere commiting 

I think it's fairly common for players to talk to coaches about their role especially immediately before transferring. Transferring was probably the last thing Dixon wanted to do considering he sat out all of last season and will have sit out again without redshirting. I don't think he'd make that decision without talking to Mullin. Mullin probably told him the truth that he'd see limited minutes the rest of this season and there was no guarantee he'd see an uptick next season. Dixon then decided the best thing for him to do was transfer now so he'd be eligible next December, which probably is the best move for him.

I think it's fairly common for players to talk to coaches about their role especially immediately before transferring. Transferring was probably the last thing Dixon wanted to do considering he sat out all of last season and will have sit out again without redshirting. I don't think he'd make that decision without talking to Mullin. Mullin probably told him the truth that he'd see limited minutes the rest of this season and there was no guarantee he'd see an uptick next season. Dixon then decided the best thing for him to do was transfer now so he'd be eligible next December, which probably is the best move for him.

Most coaches hold weekly individual meetings with players in season.

I find it hard to believe Steere committed without some kind of assurance that there was a good chance a ship would be available.

I also find it far more plausible that Mullin didn't play Dixon because he was leaving than Dixon leaving because he didn't play much in two games.

I also find it far more plausible that Mullin didn't play Dixon because he was leaving than Dixon leaving because he didn't play much in two games.

He was averaging over 17 minutes a game. He was the first player off the bench. With the expectation of Ponds leaving based on how Dixon has been utilized so far he appeared to be in position to complete for a starting guard spot next year. It just appears that the staff decided they have better options going forward and needed the ship.

It just appears that the staff decided they have better options going forward and needed the ship.

It just appears to you you mean. It's certainly not evident. Dixon was player of the year as a senior in HS and rookie of the year as a freshman and after coming to think of himself as the man became an afterthought at St John's - he's fallen from 6th to 8th or 9th on the depth chart, was getting no minutes recently, and was being recruited over for next year. So he bailed. Not to mention that it just appears that it would be the height of stupid for the staff to risk upsetting team chemistry in this critical year after this promising start by throwing one of the players off the team for no reason.

Hopefully MD fares better than other recent transfers who thought they were better than they are and deserved a bigger role. Malik Ellison (8 ppg, 3 rbs) isn't even starting at Pitt; RenardBuysHouses is playing 10 minutes less per game at TT than at SJ; Sima floundered at OSU and Yawke is still awful despite being mentored by the greatest coach of his generation, Danny Hurley. And meanwhile Clark, Simon, Heron and LJF are thriving.

Very odd.  Mid year transfers are bizarre enough, and usually imply an academic or disciplinary issue, or something more troubling.  But a mid year transfer from a kid who has already transferred before is even weirder.