Dixon Transferring

While you can question whether or not he should've accepted his role and stayed here for the remainder of his college career...if he was going to transfer now probably is a better time than at the end of the year.

He has 5 years to play 4.  After this year he has 2 years left to use his 2 years of eligibility.

Transfering now gives him a 1 1/2 years at another school.  Second semester next year and the folllowing year.

If he waits until the end of the year..he has to sit out the whole year and play 1 year at the new school.  I doubt NCAA would give him a waiver to play immediately next year or for a 6th year but who knows nowadays.

There is no way the staff pushed Dixon out solely to get his scholarship for Steere when Earlington is still here.

It just appears to you you mean. It's certainly not evident. Dixon was player of the year as a senior in HS and rookie of the year as a freshman and after coming to think of himself as the man became an afterthought at St John's - he's fallen from 6th to 8th or 9th on the depth chart, was getting no minutes recently, and was being recruited over for next year. So he bailed. Not to mention that it just appears that it would be the height of stupid for the staff to risk upsetting team chemistry in this critical year after this promising start by throwing one of the players off the team for no reason.

Hopefully MD fares better than other recent transfers who thought they were better than they are and deserved a bigger role. Malik Ellison (8 ppg, 3 rbs) isn't even starting at Pitt; RenardBuysHouses is playing 10 minutes less per game at TT than at SJ; Sima floundered at OSU and Yawke is still awful despite being mentored by the greatest coach of his generation, Danny Hurley. And meanwhile Clark, Simon, Heron and LJF are thriving.

I agree with you on everything except Renard's kid. His numbers are pretty identical to last season at SJU in almost 10 less minutes/game. He's also on a team that looks like a legit Sweet 16 contender with the way they play defense and currently ranked #11 in the polls. I'll be kind and call that one a lateral move.

I'll be kind and call that one a lateral move.

Fair enough but if he was looking for a bigger role in the offense that did not work out as he'd hoped.

There is no way the staff pushed Dixon out solely to get his scholarship for Steere when Earlington is still here.

And if Earlington or Trimble didn’t want to leave?

It just appears to you you mean. It's certainly not evident. Dixon was player of the year as a senior in HS and rookie of the year as a freshman and after coming to think of himself as the man became an afterthought at St John's - he's fallen from 6th to 8th or 9th on the depth chart, was getting no minutes recently, and was being recruited over for next year. So he bailed. Not to mention that it just appears that it would be the height of stupid for the staff to risk upsetting team chemistry in this critical year after this promising start by throwing one of the players off the team for no reason.

Hopefully MD fares better than other recent transfers who thought they were better than they are and deserved a bigger role. Malik Ellison (8 ppg, 3 rbs) isn't even starting at Pitt; RenardBuysHouses is playing 10 minutes less per game at TT than at SJ; Sima floundered at OSU and Yawke is still awful despite being mentored by the greatest coach of his generation, Danny Hurley. And meanwhile Clark, Simon, Heron and LJF are thriving.

No it’s not evident and purely speculative on my part. However it is just as speculative to suggest he was being recruited over. If anyone was being recruited over it was Trimble. Someone needs to run the point next year and Dixon was in line to do so. I don’t believe he fail out of favor with the staff, he was our best/only offensive option coming off the bench and was shooting over 40% from 3 and we know Mullin likes offense. I agree with Marallic that his recent playing time was more likely due to the staff knowing he was leaving.

Yes it would be stupid for the staff, however where are the ships gonna come from? They may have preferred Trimble or someone else to transfer but that player would want to want to as well.

It may very well be as you and others have said however until we hear for certain let’s not paint the narrative that Dixon is the bad guy. It’s possible that wasn’t the case. We may never know. I wish him well and move on to GT.

Fair enough but if he was looking for a bigger role in the offense that did not work out as he'd hoped.

True.

No it’s not evident and purely speculative on my part. However it is just as speculative to suggest he was being recruited over. If anyone was being recruited over it was Trimble. Someone needs to run the point next year and Dixon was in line to do so. I don’t believe he fail out of favor with the staff, he was our best/only offensive option coming off the bench and was shooting over 40% from 3 and we know Mullin likes offense. I agree with Marallic that his recent playing time was more likely due to the staff knowing he was leaving.

He was clearly being recruited over. Cam Mack is the starting PG next year and Wright the likely two and a week ago they got a commit from a 4 star guard. And he was clearly out of favor, he played seven minutes in the last two games and with Keita back and Williams emerging his was suddenly 9th on the depth chart. This team doesn't need a microwave off the bench, they have four in the starting line up.

Yes it would be stupid for the staff, however where are the ships gonna come from? They may have preferred Trimble or someone else to transfer but that player would want to want to as well.

If they could "push out" Dixon why couldn't push out Trimble or whoever else.

It may very well be as you and others have said however until we hear for certain let’s not paint the narrative that Dixon is the bad guy. It’s possible that wasn’t the case. We may never know. I wish him well and move on to GT.

I didn't say he was a bad guy, I said he over estimated his talent. Whereas you implied that the staff were cynical opportunists who don't care about the well-being of their delicate charges.

What's the starting backcourt look like next year should Ponds and Heron leave?

What's the starting backcourt look like next year should Ponds and Heron leave?

Starters
Cam Mack
Justin Simon

Bench
Greg Williams
Eli Wright
Bryan Trimble

I could see maybe Greg starting as well.

What's the starting backcourt look like next year should Ponds and Heron leave?

What's the starting backcourt look like next year should Ponds and Heron leave?

Mack and Wright
or
Mack and Williams

When Ponds is sitting, who is gonna take it up? Heron? Trimble? Simon?

Simon

No it’s not evident and purely speculative on my part. However it is just as speculative to suggest he was being recruited over. If anyone was being recruited over it was Trimble. Someone needs to run the point next year and Dixon was in line to do so. I don’t believe he fail out of favor with the staff, he was our best/only offensive option coming off the bench and was shooting over 40% from 3 and we know Mullin likes offense. I agree with Marallic that his recent playing time was more likely due to the staff knowing he was leaving.

Yes it would be stupid for the staff, however where are the ships gonna come from? They may have preferred Trimble or someone else to transfer but that player would want to want to as well.

It may very well be as you and others have said however until we hear for certain let’s not paint the narrative that Dixon is the bad guy. It’s possible that wasn’t the case. We may never know. I wish him well and move on to GT.

Dixon and Trimble were both recruited while we were in emergency mode. Things have changed with Heron materializing out of thin air, Figueroa proving he is the real deal, Williams emerging as a legit Big East player, Eli Wright /David Caraher committing and redshirting, and Cameron Mack and Nate Tabor committing.

I'd rather have Dixon than not, but I'd rather have Steere here next season than Dixon and it's very possible it was either or.

Dixon didn't defend. His spacing, his help, his double-teams, how he handled every screen...it all suggested this kid would be a defensive liability at this level his entire career.

He made the right move leaving mid-season given his prior redshirt.

Dixon and Trimble were both recruited while we were in emergency mode. Things have changed with Heron materializing out of thin air, Figuerora proving he is the real deal, Williams emerging as a legit Big East player, Eli Wright /David Caraher committing and redshirting, and Cameron Mack and Nate Tabor committing.

I'd rather have Dixon than not, but I'd rather have Steere here next season than Dixon and it's very possible it was either or.

Dixon didn't defend. His spacing, his help, his double-teams, how he handled every screen...it all suggested this kid would be a defensive liability at this level his entire career.

He made the right move leaving mid-season given his prior redshirt.

Besides all the defensive stuff that was truly awful on offense despite his quickness he really could only be a spot up shooter. Was neither athletic or strong enough to finish at the rim. He was basically a poor man's Mussini.

He was clearly being recruited over. Cam Mack is the starting PG next year and Wright the likely two and a week ago they got a commit from a 4 star guard. And he was clearly out of favor, he played seven minutes in the last two games and with Keita back and Williams emerging his was suddenly 9th on the depth chart. This team doesn't need a microwave off the bench, they have four in the starting line up.

If they could "push out" Dixon why couldn't push out Trimble or whoever else.

I didn't say he was a bad guy, I said he over estimated his talent. Whereas you implied that the staff were cynical opportunists who don't care about the well-being of their delicate charges.

How can you pencil Mack in as the starting PG next year when he has yet to play one minute of D1 basketball? Oh right cause it aligns with the narrative, pretty presumptuous. The staff knew he was leaving which is why he played less not that he fell out of favor. As you stated, Dixon may have a higher opinion of himself which makes him more vulnerable to be pushed out.

Besides all the defensive stuff that was truly awful on offense despite his quickness he really could only be a spot up shooter. Was neither athletic or strong enough to finish at the rim. He was basically a poor man's Mussini.

I don't really agree. His shot was very nice and he could get to the basket. He was extremely quick...quickest on the team by a healthy margin.

He was rushed and that was evident from day one. He also didn't have great coordination.

Mussini may have actually been a better defender due to his high basketball IQ. Who saw that coming?

Mullin just doesn't have tolerance for guys with low basktball IQs and guys that don't defend. I'm somewhat surprised by that given his free-wheeling offense...but I like it a lot.

Williams is already showing superior mental processing as a true freshman and, although he is not as quick as Dixon, he's a superior athlete overall.

I'd rather have Dixon than not, but I'd rather have Steere here next season than Dixon and it's very possible it was either or.

I think it’s possible the staff seen it the same way. It’s interesting how some think it’s inconceivable that the staff may have orchestrated this. They needed ships, this is what happens, they find a way.

How can you pencil Mack in as the starting PG next year when he has
yet to play one minute of D1 basketball? Oh right cause it aligns with the narrative, pretty presumptuous. The staff knew
he was leaving which is why he played less not that he fell out of favor. As you stated, Dixon may have a higher opinion of himself which makes him more vulnerable to be pushed out.

Mack looks legit to me. He can do a lot of things well. He’s a strong finisher. A bully point guard. Perfect for the BE. He won’t be alone. Figueroa will be ready to be a star after adding 15 lbs of muscle over the summer.

I don't really agree. His shot was very nice and he could get to the basket. He was extremely quick...quickest on the team by a healthy margin.

He was rushed and that was evident from day one. He also didn't have great coordination.

Mussini may have actually been a better defender due to his high basketball IQ. Who saw that coming?

Mullin just doesn't have tolerance for guys with low basktball IQs and guys that don't defend. I'm somewhat surprised by that given his free-wheeling offense...but I like it a lot.

Williams is already showing superior mental processing as a true freshman and, although he is not as quick as Dixon, he's a superior athlete overall.

Williams has definitely showed more upside. However I would take Dixon over Trimble. He has been frustrating to watch.

I don't really agree. His shot was very nice and he could get to the basket. He was extremely quick...quickest on the team by a healthy margin.

He was rushed and that was evident from day one. He also didn't have great coordination.

Mussini may have actually been a better defender due to his high basketball IQ. Who saw that coming?

Mullin just doesn't have tolerance for guys with low basktball IQs and guys that don't defend. I'm somewhat surprised by that given his free-wheeling offense...but I like it a lot.

Williams is already showing superior mental processing as a true freshman and, although he is not as quick as Dixon, he's a superior athlete overall.

I called this pretty early and you are only now admitting he was terrible defensively.
BTW me calling it effort and lack of physical / athleticism is better than you basically saying he was stupid