Vince Cole

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Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2019, 10:42:12 PM »
Reminder - this is the guy that UAB and Mizzu fans famously called "suitcase Mike" for his propensity to constantly be looking at other jobs.  The move to get JUCOs may be in large part to follow up on what, at least in my view, should be a good season with MH and LJ and a very strong big in Steere, with a team which has solid experience already thru the JUCOs and Dunn. If he does somehow make the NCAAs for 2 consecutive years, he probably won't be coaching at SJU by April 2021

We would be very lucky if our head coach puts himself in a position to be courted by better programs

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Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2019, 10:44:54 PM »
Reminder - this is the guy that UAB and Mizzu fans famously called "suitcase Mike" for his propensity to constantly be looking at other jobs.  The move to get JUCOs may be in large part to follow up on what, at least in my view, should be a good season with MH and LJ and a very strong big in Steere, with a team which has solid experience already thru the JUCOs and Dunn. If he does somehow make the NCAAs for 2 consecutive years, he probably won't be coaching at SJU by April 2021
Never heard suitcase mike. This will be a good season because this guy can actually coach and is prepared. After the last 4 years of getting killed, it’s amazing that some of you are so miserable. You guys almost wish St. Jean were still here.
If this guy wins so much that he gets a better job, we should be a statue in his honor. Butler and Xavier lose coaches all the time.

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Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2019, 08:23:27 AM »
Never heard suitcase mike. Hmm Mmm

Slingblade doesn't know something, film at 11.

"Quin Snyder flirted with Washington after guiding the Tigers to the Elite Eight in 2002, and a few years later probably wished he had left, as his program fell into disrepair during an NCAA investigation. As soon as Mike Anderson got the team back on track, he annually shopped himself to suitors -- earning the nickname “Suitcase Mike” -- until he finally took Arkansas up on its offer in 2011."

https://www.columbiatribune.com/f7ee6536-aa82-5b4d-9f4b-1406e5d57d26.html 

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Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2019, 08:36:38 AM »
Slingblade doesn't know something, film at 11.

"Quin Snyder flirted with Washington after guiding the Tigers to the Elite Eight in 2002, and a few years later probably wished he had left, as his program fell into disrepair during an NCAA investigation. As soon as Mike Anderson got the team back on track, he annually shopped himself to suitors -- earning the nickname “Suitcase Mike” -- until he finally took Arkansas up on its offer in 2011."

https://www.columbiatribune.com/f7ee6536-aa82-5b4d-9f4b-1406e5d57d26.html 

That article from a disgruntled Missouri fan who probably made up the term.  The guy still only had 3 jobs until he was let go from Arkansas.
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Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2019, 09:19:28 AM »
Slingblade doesn't know something, film at 11.

"Quin Snyder flirted with Washington after guiding the Tigers to the Elite Eight in 2002, and a few years later probably wished he had left, as his program fell into disrepair during an NCAA investigation. As soon as Mike Anderson got the team back on track, he annually shopped himself to suitors -- earning the nickname “Suitcase Mike” -- until he finally took Arkansas up on its offer in 2011."

https://www.columbiatribune.com/f7ee6536-aa82-5b4d-9f4b-1406e5d57d26.html 
I didn’t know it. But unlike you I looked it up. What does it mean? A younger coach looked to move up and make more money. My brother is in the business world. Before he was 35 he worked at 5 different banks. Every time he got a job he got a big raise. He has been at his last job 7 years as he nears 40. If suitcase mike is true. It looked like Arkansas was his dream job. Anderson has admitted he didn’t expect an another opportunity so fast. But he has jumped in with both feet and seems to be making the most of it. At 59 I doubt he is looking to keep jumping around. He has made plenty. But unlike lazy ass he is still working.
By the way great point foady. Not quite as good as pressure defense not flummoxing opponents. Coach k did nothing complicated vs shamori ponds. Ponds and St. Jean looked plenty flummoxed. Your boy not so much. In game coaching really wasn’t his thing.

Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #45 on: September 27, 2019, 09:23:48 AM »
After the last 4 years of getting killed,
Lie alert!

21-13 and an Ncaa tournament bid last season. Or, as history revisionists recall it - "getting killed".

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Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #46 on: September 27, 2019, 09:25:34 AM »
We would be very lucky if our head coach puts himself in a position to be courted by better programs

Plus it'd give us another chance to make a run at Porter Moser.

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Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #47 on: September 27, 2019, 09:27:50 AM »
I didn’t know it. But unlike you I looked it up. Mmm mmm

How many guesses did it take you to spell suitcase right?

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Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #48 on: September 27, 2019, 09:33:09 AM »
Plus it'd give us another chance to make a run at Porter Moser.
I didn’t want porter moser. From memory I can’t think of one St. John’s fan advocating for him. Our beat writer didn’t think it was a good idea. Still porter moser and a competent staff or Greg St. Jean and 3 empty suits? Great point again foady!

Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2019, 09:38:20 AM »
Coach k did nothing complicated vs shamori ponds. Ponds and St. Jean looked plenty flummoxed. Your boy not so much. In game coaching really wasn’t his thing.
Lie alert!

Did you forget this one on 2/3/18?
https://redstormsports.com/boxscore.aspx?id=1697&path=mbball

Coach Mullin lifetime record vs. Puke 1 - 1

Doc is usually right about as often as a broke clock is right about the time but he might be on to something with you.

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Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #50 on: September 27, 2019, 09:52:39 AM »
Lie alert!

Did you forget this one on 2/3/18?
https://redstormsports.com/boxscore.aspx?id=1697&path=mbball

Coach Mullin lifetime record vs. Puke 1 - 1

Doc is usually right about as often as a broke clock is right about the time but he might be on to something with you.
I guess you missed the massacre this year. Not your fault. You missed plenty of the beat downs.

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Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #51 on: September 27, 2019, 01:03:17 PM »
WTF are you talking about? You're hopping over the fence so often I can hardly tell which side you're on anymore. I'm talking about the recruits coming here based off his W-L record as SJU coach, not his two decades as a HC. He has to prove it here obviously. Season needs to get here already.

I’m not “on a side,” you idiot. How can I make that any clearer? I will praise Anderson when he does good and criticize him when he’s not good. The fact that you view it as choosing sides is problematic.

So now recruits need to see success at the current school? And Mullin and Lavin were “celebrities” so they don’t count. The excuses will never stop.

I don’t have a problem with JUCOs or transfers or even less talented glue guys that will work hard...I just want the big dogs and we haven’t even been seriously involved with any in 2019 or 2020. That’s all I’ve ever asked if s coach here.

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Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #52 on: September 27, 2019, 01:31:16 PM »
That article from a disgruntled Missouri fan who probably made up the term.  The guy still only had 3 jobs until he was let go from Arkansas.

Whenever SJU hires a coach, you come out like the Vincentian Swiss Guard.  Lavin, Mullin, now Iron Mike.  Look, I hope he succeeds, but it's not realistic to blow off actual, objective concerns.

See the following article (not opinion/editorial) for more: https://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/it-s-official-anderson-leaving-mizzou-for-arkansas/article_d3d38d66-557d-11e0-95f8-0017a4a78c22.html

Specifically: "Mike Anderson ... is leaving after five seasons that produced three NCAA tournament teams and an annual flood of suitors for his services"

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"The awkward nature of his departure created disillusionment among a faction of MU fans, who by the end were welcoming the change — particularly in light of the fact it was the third straight year Anderson had publicly considered other jobs"

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"Considering Anderson’s flirtations with Georgia two years ago and Oregon last year, Alden would be negligent if he didn’t have a short list long since assembled"

Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #53 on: September 27, 2019, 02:06:23 PM »
Whenever SJU hires a coach, you come out like the Vincentian Swiss Guard.  Lavin, Mullin, now Iron Mike.  Look, I hope he succeeds, but it's not realistic to blow off actual, objective concerns.

See the following article (not opinion/editorial) for more: https://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/it-s-official-anderson-leaving-mizzou-for-arkansas/article_d3d38d66-557d-11e0-95f8-0017a4a78c22.html

Specifically: "Mike Anderson ... is leaving after five seasons that produced three NCAA tournament teams and an annual flood of suitors for his services"

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"The awkward nature of his departure created disillusionment among a faction of MU fans, who by the end were welcoming the change — particularly in light of the fact it was the third straight year Anderson had publicly considered other jobs"

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"Considering Anderson’s flirtations with Georgia two years ago and Oregon last year, Alden would be negligent if he didn’t have a short list long since assembled"


10 years ago he was entering the prime of his coaching career with a “flood of suitors” reaching out.

Don’t think it’s anywhere near the same situation. He’s had his dream job already.
*wipes ketchup from his eyes* - I guess Heinz sight isn’t 20/20.

MCNPA

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Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #54 on: September 27, 2019, 02:25:19 PM »
Whenever SJU hires a coach, you come out like the Vincentian Swiss Guard.  Lavin, Mullin, now Iron Mike.  Look, I hope he succeeds, but it's not realistic to blow off actual, objective concerns.

See the following article (not opinion/editorial) for more: https://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/it-s-official-anderson-leaving-mizzou-for-arkansas/article_d3d38d66-557d-11e0-95f8-0017a4a78c22.html

Specifically: "Mike Anderson ... is leaving after five seasons that produced three NCAA tournament teams and an annual flood of suitors for his services"

AND

"The awkward nature of his departure created disillusionment among a faction of MU fans, who by the end were welcoming the change — particularly in light of the fact it was the third straight year Anderson had publicly considered other jobs"

AND

"Considering Anderson’s flirtations with Georgia two years ago and Oregon last year, Alden would be negligent if he didn’t have a short list long since assembled"


I see zero concerns.  He’s had 3 jobs in his long career.  Just because he considered other offers while at Missouri means zilch.  All coaches consider other offers.

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Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #55 on: September 27, 2019, 05:59:58 PM »
Whenever SJU hires a coach, you come out like the Vincentian Swiss Guard.  Lavin, Mullin, now Iron Mike.  Look, I hope he succeeds, but it's not realistic to blow off actual, objective concerns.

See the following article (not opinion/editorial) for more: https://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/it-s-official-anderson-leaving-mizzou-for-arkansas/article_d3d38d66-557d-11e0-95f8-0017a4a78c22.html

Specifically: "Mike Anderson ... is leaving after five seasons that produced three NCAA tournament teams and an annual flood of suitors for his services"

AND

"The awkward nature of his departure created disillusionment among a faction of MU fans, who by the end were welcoming the change — particularly in light of the fact it was the third straight year Anderson had publicly considered other jobs"

AND

"Considering Anderson’s flirtations with Georgia two years ago and Oregon last year, Alden would be negligent if he didn’t have a short list long since assembled"


So Anderson was doing what literally 98% of other coaches do? How dare he

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Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #56 on: September 27, 2019, 07:45:06 PM »
Anderson flirting with schools in the past doesn’t mean anything unless he leaves after this season from the success built on the backs of Mullins players.

If he can do well enough to get a job with another high major after year two then it’s not all bad. I don’t think thay will be the case at his age and our situation in 2020, though. Nobody else wanted him without a buyout in 2019 so I find it hard to believe he could make himself a more attractive hire with a buyout and with another two years of age.
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Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2019, 07:48:26 PM »
We would be very lucky if our head coach puts himself in a position to be courted by better programs

Absolutely.  Notice how coaches St. John's let go don't land other HC gigs.

Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #58 on: September 28, 2019, 01:33:44 AM »
I guess you missed the massacre this year. Not your fault. You missed plenty of the beat downs.
Yeah I saw it.  Each team held serve on their home court in this rivalry during the Mullin era. That's 1 and 1 lifetime for Mullin against one of the true blue blood programs and a hall of fame coach.

What you try to use as anti-Mullin slander is actually pro-Mullin ammunition.  You're so bad at this.

If I was in the business of bad mouthing a college basketball programs living legend on the least appropriate forum possible - I could formulate an anti-mullin argument way, way better than you can.
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Re: Vince Cole
« Reply #59 on: September 28, 2019, 11:24:12 AM »
I think because of his age , he will be looking to stay put. I think he’s a proud man who will work hard to prove he shouldn’t have been fired and his worth as a bb. coach.