Game #16: @Georgetown

If they'd let Mullin hire Mike Rice in the summer of 2018 your spring 2019 scenario is moot.

Their are hundreds of coaches that could have been hired. The fact that mike rice was the only one who got close is absurd. We all hear rumors, the one I just heard is mullin stopped the hiring of rice. Not the school blocking it.
When you interview for a JV position. If don’t have a plan you don’t get the job. If you can’t get yourself help you probably don’t get the job. Chris Mullin could have hired just about anyone he wanted to.
He choose slice. the hero probably didn’t know slice was an empty suit when he hired him. Then he replaced him with part time Mitch. Honestly it shouldn’t matter who was hired. The only reason it was such a big deal is because Chris mullin couldn’t or didn’t want to do the job.
The fact that you people are still making excuses for this is amazing.
But I am bored as usual at work. I enjoy taking shots at coach Mullin.

Most of what you say in that post is probably true but you don't know jack shit about which players do or don't hate Anderson so don't pretend that you do.

I am not pretending since I haven’t personally heard anything. Texts and FB messenger convos from a few people who made the claim. I have my doubts as well given these are the same people who had Hurley coming here. Believe what you want or don’t. I don’t care either way.

Yes it is a results business. 8-10 in conference. Beating no one out of conference. Getting killed in the big east and the play in game is not a good season. Especially with the roster we had.
You personally can be as proud as you want of that achievement. No one else is.
Losing badly for 3 years and then producing last years season gets you fired.
Tomorrow is a big game for Anderson. Although the team isn’t talented. We can’t lose to last place DePaul at home.

The regular season don't mean sh*t. You either make the dance or don't.  If you're a crap team making the tournament is everything - if you're a good team how you did in the tournament is everything. That is how you're judged. I didn't make the rules.  It is what it is.

P.S.
You're back to lying again. "Beating no one out of conference." I know the team was 12-0 at one point.

When you interview for a JV position

You'd know more about JV positions than I. Or Laker Coach Greg St Jean for that matter.

A couple of weeks ago I got a message from Dave that said basically can you stop calling people names. And I said but Dave, if I can't call for example Tony the D stands for dimwit names all that remains is reading his half formed thoughts rendered in English as a second language phoenetics. That doesn't benefit anyone. I said Dave please reconsider, not being able to call Tony the D stands for Dunce stupid is like not being able to call the ocean wet. It's like not being able to call grass green. It's like not being able to call space vast. Stupid is what makes Tony the D stands for dummy what he is; it's his defining characteristic. And Dave said that may be but I don't think a little circumspection is a lot to ask. Which having thought about it I decided it was quite a lot to ask and so I took a sabbatical. Since then I've posted three times and to each of those three posts you've replied with half formed thoughts rendered in English as a second language phonetics. Know why? Because you're stupid, that's why. Hmm mmm.

If they finished in 7th place with a 8-10 conference record and lost their best player, 3/5th of their starting line up and replaced them with lesser players on top of that a coaching change who runs a system that most of the returning players aren’t the right fit for then yes it’s a rebuilding year.

Yea and we were 1 game away from finishing 3rd last year. We've taken a step back just like Nova, Marquette, Butler, Xavier, etc. Probably only teams in conference returning stronger is Seton Hall and Providence.

It's college basketball, turnover is constant.

Yea and we were 1 game away from finishing 3rd last year. We've taken a step back just like Nova, Marquette, Butler, Xavier, etc. Probably only teams in conference returning stronger is Seton Hall and Providence.

It's college basketball, turnover is constant.

turnover is obviously constant in college basketball, but it's not consistent -- some years the turnover is worse than others. let's be real, shamorie ponds was the whole team last year.  would have been in last place last year without him.  well, he's gone.  also justin simon is gone, and someone thinks he's good enough to play in the NBA's g-league, so he must be ok.  i don't know who the last staff had to replace those guys.  Ian steere?   that's a team that finished 7th place in conference last year and was the last team to make it into the NCAA tournament. 

losing a lot from a 7th place team that squeaked into the tournament sounds like a rebuild to me.  I'm not a mullin hater, thought they should have kept him, but at the same time, I don't know why there's such resistance to simply acknowledging what's going on here.

turnover is obviously constant in college basketball, but it's not consistent -- some years the turnover is worse than others. let's be real, shamorie ponds was the whole team last year.  would have been in last place last year without him.  well, he's gone.  also justin simon is gone, and someone thinks he's good enough to play in the NBA's g-league, so he must be ok.  i don't know who the last staff had to replace those guys.  Ian steere?   that's a team that finished 7th place in conference last year and was the last team to make it into the NCAA tournament. 

losing a lot from a 7th place team that squeaked into the tournament sounds like a rebuild to me.  I'm not a mullin hater, thought they should have kept him, but at the same time, I don't know why there's such resistance to simply acknowledging what's going on here.

By your definition every successful team is rebuilding the following year. Returning our 2nd and 3rd leading scorers who are preseason all conference is more than a lot of teams. Villanova lost their top two scorers. Are they rebuilding too?

By your definition every successful team is rebuilding the following year. Returning our 2nd and 3rd leading scorers who are preseason all conference is more than a lot of teams. Villanova lost their top two scorers. Are they rebuilding too?

No they are reloading. They have a coach with a plan. They also have plenty returning.

If they'd let Mullin hire Mike Rice in the summer of 2018 your spring 2019 scenario is moot.

I’ve been under the impression it was Mullin who ultimately nixed that idea. If it was the administration that stepped in and stopped it then yes it would be moot.

I’ve been under the impression it was Mullin who ultimately nixed that idea. If it was the administration that stepped in and stopped it then yes it would be moot.

Mullin was fine with his staff as it was.

I’ve been under the impression it was Mullin who ultimately nixed that idea. If it was the administration that stepped in and stopped it then yes it would be moot.

"According to several people with knowledge of what happened, Mullin wanted to hire former Rutgers head coach Mike Rice as an assistant last summer. … But when Mullin brought Rice’s name to Gempesaw, the school president balked, a source said. Gempesaw perhaps feared blowback and a potential public-relations hit."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jppelzman/2019/04/09/a-hire-chris-mullin-was-not-allowed-to-make-helped-set-the-stage-for-his-departure/#2672e2f45b56

Maybe it's fake news but it was reported.

By your definition every successful team is rebuilding the following year. Returning our 2nd and 3rd leading scorers who are preseason all conference is more than a lot of teams. Villanova lost their top two scorers. Are they rebuilding too?

No. because facts matter.  last year nova finished first in the league and was a 6 seed in the ncaa tournament.  they lost two very important players no doubt, but they responded by bringing in 2 5 star recruits and 2 4 star recruits.  I can't believe that you think that is the same as st. john's, which barely made the tourney and had basically no one lined up to replace shamorie ponds, who btw is St. john's 5th ALL TIME leading scorer (and probably would be number 1 if he played 4 years like the guys ahead of him). if you're just going to continue to respond in bad faith don't bother.

turnover is obviously constant in college basketball, but it's not consistent -- some years the turnover is worse than others. let's be real, shamorie ponds was the whole team last year.  would have been in last place last year without him.  well, he's gone.  also justin simon is gone, and someone thinks he's good enough to play in the NBA's g-league, so he must be ok.  i don't know who the last staff had to replace those guys.  Ian steere?   that's a team that finished 7th place in conference last year and was the last team to make it into the NCAA tournament. 

losing a lot from a 7th place team that squeaked into the tournament sounds like a rebuild to me.  I'm not a mullin hater, thought they should have kept him, but at the same time, I don't know why there's such resistance to simply acknowledging what's going on here.

Nice post

Mullin was fine with his staff as it was.

The story I heard, was rice and the school were talking money and contract details before mullin nixed it.

No. because facts matter.  last year nova finished first in the league and was a 6 seed in the ncaa tournament.  they lost two very important players no doubt, but they responded by bringing in 2 5 star recruits and 2 4 star recruits.  I can't believe that you think that is the same as st. john's, which barely made the tourney and had basically no one lined up to replace shamorie ponds, who btw is St. john's 5th ALL TIME leading scorer (and probably would be number 1 if he played 4 years like the guys ahead of him). if you're just going to continue to respond in bad faith don't bother.

We're not comparing the two schools as programs but their transition from last year to this year. Again we were probably 1 win away from being on same level as Nova last year.

I can go up and down our conference and everyone saw losses and are playing guys who weren't contributors last year. This doesn't mean they are rebuilding.

I just don't understand a lot of guys thoughts here. In one breath Mike Anderson is such an amazing coach that's why we're winning and then next our team is terrible what do you expect?

I don't have crazy high expectations and there have been +/- I think we can take away so far but my ultimate fear is that we will be cellar dwellers in conference under Mike Anderson and so far nothing has disproved that.

It's very hard for me to believe this team will be better next year than it is this year.

Mike's teams seemed to have slow starts in conference play most of his tenure at Arkansas, his teams do rebound but usually come up at keast a gane or two short due to the early losses, I wouldnt count em out yet, but it does get frustrating.

Yea and we were 1 game away from finishing 3rd last year. We've taken a step back just like Nova, Marquette, Butler, Xavier, etc. Probably only teams in conference returning stronger is Seton Hall and Providence.

It's college basketball, turnover is constant.

Interesting. Based on that same logic Mullin shouldn’t have gone 1-17 his first year because it’s college basketball, turnover is constant right?

The reality is this league is much better than last year top to bottom and that’s evident by the number of teams projected to dance. So to state that most of the teams took a step back isn’t accurate they are stronger with the exception of us, roster wise.

No. because facts matter.  last year nova finished first in the league and was a 6 seed in the ncaa tournament.  they lost two very important players no doubt, but they responded by bringing in 2 5 star recruits and 2 4 star recruits.  I can't believe that you think that is the same as st. john's, which barely made the tourney and had basically no one lined up to replace shamorie ponds, who btw is St. john's 5th ALL TIME leading scorer (and probably would be number 1 if he played 4 years like the guys ahead of him). if you're just going to continue to respond in bad faith don't bother.

Two sound posts, apesNapes.  The dude has shit for brains, trolling his own site, has an agenda or all of the above.  I'm leaning to all of the above.  I also noticed fabrication is rampant per a couple folks on here.   

He believes name-dropping and knowing where Player X will attend college makes him a student of the game.  Several people, myself included, believes his player evaluation is below-average (yeah, I slightly went off-topic).

I once mentioned that I'd be fine if the Johnnies recruited and landed Truck Bryant.  He claimed (paraphrased) Bryant should play a notch below the Big East.  I had only seen Bryant play two or three times and knew he could play in the conference. 

Don't pay him any mind unless he's telling you where Player X is going to school.  'Though, there are times he can't even get that right.  Otherwise, his opinions and logic are akin to owning a pet rock.....  Useless.  Y'all, please don't trust him. 

We're not comparing the two schools as programs but their transition from last year to this year. Again we were probably 1 win away from being on same level as Nova last year.

Ummmm are you trying the Jedi mind trick? Wtf. Last year we had Ponds and Simon we replaced them with Rutherford and champagne. Nova replaces their loss with 2 five star recruits and 2 four star recruits. What is complicated about this?

It’s about level setting expectations. Anderson is a good coach, he isn’t without flaw, and he’s operating with the worse roster in the conference.

turnover is obviously constant in college basketball, but it's not consistent -- some years the turnover is worse than others. let's be real, shamorie ponds was the whole team last year.  would have been in last place last year without him.  well, he's gone.  also justin simon is gone, and someone thinks he's good enough to play in the NBA's g-league, so he must be ok.  i don't know who the last staff had to replace those guys.  Ian steere?   that's a team that finished 7th place in conference last year and was the last team to make it into the NCAA tournament. 

losing a lot from a 7th place team that squeaked into the tournament sounds like a rebuild to me.  I'm not a mullin hater, thought they should have kept him, but at the same time, I don't know why there's such resistance to simply acknowledging what's going on here.

Ian Steere reminds me of Tom Bayne.