Evaluating progress

You were panicking two weeks ago looking to move on😂

So marginal improvement year to year is okay now with Anderson but wasn’t with Mullin?

As a reminder, Mullin improved his win totals each year from 8 > 14 > 16 > 21 (and an NCAA tournament berth) and you wanted him canned.

Yeah....No! See unlike you I don't change my stripes every two seconds. Your old, false, bullshit shtick is as dull as ever. I'm not going anywhere. I'm never looking to move on because I don't need to. I always stand by what I say because it's very clear and easy to understand. Unlike you who's auditioning for America's shiftiest fence hopper time and time again.

Why don't you ever quote my whole post when you're going to make an argument? Marginal improvement in this case is ok as I expect Year 3 to be Anderson's time to dance. However you failed to include that last part where I made this expectation of Anderson. You also failed to mention that in Year 3 Mullin's BE win total went from 7 down to 4 and they were tied for 9th in the conference. Context has never been your friend. Give it a rest.

Why are you so quick to heap development praise? How can freshmen improve in 15 games beyond what is naturally expected? Wusu and Posh will be up and down all year. That’s what freshmen do.

Posh had 16 and 7 with 5 steals and shot 62.5% from the field his very first game. In his third ever game, against BC of the ACC, he had 18, 5, and 4.

I didn't quote any of your post, dope. I change my stripes every two seconds?  When we were 1-5 and everyone was talking about how long we had to wait to move on, I called you all maniacs and predicted we'd win 3-4 in a row and you and your posse would be back shouting praise from the mountain tops. I also said -- and still believe -- that Anderson should be given a lifetime contract.

A win can never just be a win and a loss can never just be a loss here. 10-7 can never just be 10-7. 

We have a pair of 5th-year seniors on this roster.  We have a soph that was our best player and played 20 mpg as a frosh.  We have a trio of juniors that played big minutes and a full roster.  Mullin didn't have that his second or third year. You lack the ability to consider nuance. Everything is a binary to you. Anderson inherited a 5 star senior that was twice named all SEC, a preseason all conference 4th-year junior in LJ, and a trio of sophomores that fit his style well. Mullin started with just Amar, Balamou, and Christian Jones. Mullin didn't have a single senior and just one junior (Amar) with experience his second year, and he still went 14-19 and 7-11 in conference. His top 8 scorers were newcomers and five of those were freshmen.

Yo Dave how bout them Johnny's huh, kicking ass buddy.
won 4 of 5, and 3 straights, only loss was by 2pnts.

CMA streak will continue hahaaaaa

 

Team is playing well but concerns still remain. UConn win was incredibly good especially on the road but do we win more than 3 games rest of year? I'm not sure we do

I’m not dancing for joy with the win over DePaul, but there are plenty of reasons to believe that they may win more than three games.

Earlington and Roberts have to cut out the unforced turnovers and start playing like juniors.

Dunn looked like David Cain last night. I hope he can build on this, and be content filling up the stats sheet with assists. This was by far the best he and Posh have looked together.

The question was asked how does our talent measure up against the BE teams? I’m still not sure, but in year two, we have a Most Improved/POY contender, and a Defensive POY/ROY contender. Consider the overall haul first two years, and what is still here today, and for the future. I’m not saying it’s better talent wise, or even equal, but it’s closer than you’ve acknowledged.

An attempt at a talent comparison.

Year 2:
2012 - Harrison, Jakarr, Obekpa, Greene, Branch, Balamou, Jones, Bourgault

Year 2:
2016 - Lovett, Ponds, Owens, Williams, Sima, Ellison, Mussini, Yakwe, German kid.

Year 2:
2021 - Posh, Champ, Wusu, Cole, Moore, Toro, McGriff

Posh Alexander was ranked 254 according to 247 Sports. If you Google Julian Champagnie, you can’t even find a ranking. He’s not even listed.

Where do you suppose they should have been ranked?

I didn't quote any of your post, dope. I change my stripes every two seconds?  When we were 1-5 and everyone was talking about how long we had to wait to move on, I called you all maniacs and predicted we'd win 3-4 in a row and you and your posse would be back shouting praise from the mountain tops. I also said -- and still believe -- that Anderson should be given a lifetime contract.

A win can never just be a win and a loss can never just be a loss here. 10-7 can never just be 10-7. 

We have a pair of 5th-year seniors on this roster.  We have a soph that was our best player and played 20 mpg as a frosh.  We have a trio of juniors that played big minutes and a full roster.  Mullin didn't have that his second or third year. You lack the ability to consider nuance. Everything is a binary to you. Anderson inherited a 5 star senior that was twice named all SEC, a preseason all conference 4th-year junior in LJ, and a trio of sophomores that fit his style well. Mullin started with just Amar, Balamou, and Christian Jones. Mullin didn't have a single senior and just one junior (Amar) with experience his second year, and he still went 14-19 and 7-11 in conference. His top 8 scorers were newcomers and five of those were freshmen.

I didn't quote any of your post, dope. I change my stripes every two seconds?  When we were 1-5 and everyone was talking about how long we had to wait to move on, I called you all maniacs and predicted we'd win 3-4 in a row and you and your posse would be back shouting praise from the mountain tops. I also said -- and still believe -- that Anderson should be given a lifetime contract.

A win can never just be a win and a loss can never just be a loss here. 10-7 can never just be 10-7. 

We have a pair of 5th-year seniors on this roster.  We have a soph that was our best player and played 20 mpg as a frosh.  We have a trio of juniors that played big minutes and a full roster.  Mullin didn't have that his second or third year. You lack the ability to consider nuance. Everything is a binary to you. Anderson inherited a 5 star senior that was twice named all SEC, a preseason all conference 4th-year junior in LJ, and a trio of sophomores that fit his style well. Mullin started with just Amar, Balamou, and Christian Jones. Mullin didn't have a single senior and just one junior (Amar) with experience his second year, and he still went 14-19 and 7-11 in conference. His top 8 scorers were newcomers and five of those were freshmen.

Year 2 for lavin was the Harkless & Harrison freshmen year. No Jakarr.

Talent is not far off. If he hits on Pinzon then we have to be ahead of where we hoped. Rankings aside he landed Champ and Posh back to back seasons. 2 guys good enough to highlight pretty much any SJU recruiting class.

Well if it was a full year we would be around 14-8 right now and (4-6) in the BE, so yes that would be an improvement and 5-5 the rest of the way would be bubble going into the BE tourney. Already doing better in the BE this year than last year.

Well if it was a full year we would be around 14-8 right now and (4-6) in the BE, so yes that would be an improvement and 5-5 the rest of the way would be bubble going into the BE tourney. Already doing better in the BE this year than last year.

Your fantasy real world is not a true reflection of where we'd be...

In a normal year we would have been smacked by Texas Tech, lost on the road to Butler, wouldn't have played Utah Valley, and got embarrassed by Villanova.

If anything the current situation has helped out our record.

Winning today is a must. Splitting Providence and sweeping Butler is possible. I think we have a chance against Seton Hall and think we'll play with chip on shoulder. If all that happens that's 4 more wins.

Losses to Villanova 2x, Xavier are assumed in this scenario. I don't think that's being unfair and that's a hopeful case to go 4-4 down the stretch

the way this season started I thought he was already toast

now they have played themselves back into having a shot at the bubble. Two losses are incoming vs. Nova so the margin for error is small