Athlon Sports Has the Johnnies at the Bottom

lol I think I was, Johnny. I misunderstood his post..

So I got my Athlon in the mail today and indeed St. John's was #16. What I don't get is how do you rank a USF team who won 3 games last year in conference ahead of St. Johns especially when they lost their only legit player Kentrell Gransberry.  They have 7 incoming players who are all relatively unknowns and we all know how bringing in a large class of unknowns works out.

I'm also not sure why Seton Hall gets so much love either. They lost a lot of their contributing guys and added none. I also don't like their personnel to begin with. I think Eugene Harvey who they ranked the 94th best player in the country is extremely overrated. I also think their big men are lazier than Aaron Spears which is pretty damn lazy.

Another team is Depaul who hasn't done anything to get better and will be without Burns who was the only reason they won any games. The only argument I'll for them is that they might be better off without Burns who often shot them in or shot them out of games.

I actually like Rutgers and think they could be a pretty solid sleeper team IF all things go right for them which is a big IF. I don't mind them being picked ahead of us because they have experience and a terrific freshman class.

Realistically I can see St. John's possibly finishing ahead of....

11. Providence
12. Cincinnati
13. Rutgers
14. Seton Hall
15. Depaul
16. USF

That isn't far fetched again its more possible than it is likely at this point.

^ agreed.

nowhere to go but up i guess lol

St. John dont deserve to be last. They is a strong nucleus wit the sophs now who played mo than any frosh group in a long, long time.

I believe St. John will be better at evry position than last year 'cept SG where LW will be missed a plenty.

Who cares what Athlon has to say any way? Players play. It is up to this Team and this Coaching Staff to go out and start changing perceptions about the program. The perception from last year was young team, blow outs and an offense that could not get out of it's own way. Now it is up to the Players and Coaching Staff to start changing perceptions by winning games, playing tough in ALL phases of the game and competing everytime out and avoiding those blowouts. STJ is the hot topic with NYC recruits recently.......if STJ win more games who knows what could happen??

if STJ win more games who knows what could happen??

Guys like Parrom would play at St. John´s.

http://www.zagsblog.net/2008/09/13/kevin-parrom-to-xavier

"They’re going to the (NCAA) tournament every year. They just win, that’s what I like."

what athlon has to say is we're going to suck this season...whether it's 16th or 11th.

this kind of finish means norm has to go.  there are no more excuses.

Quote from: Jacstorm on September 12, 2008, 02:45:14 PM

Quote from: Choz4Life on September 12, 2008, 10:57:02 AM

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Quote from: Johnny4Life on September 11, 2008, 04:38:00 PM

All I was trying to say is that Boothe could possibly "make us" or "break us". Make us by creating alot of easy baskets.... and/or break us by not being able to shoot and thus... creating a 5 on 4 for the defense. 

Was David Cain able to shoot? With him I don´t think that it was created a 5 on 4 for the defense.

One again my man gonzalez make a great point.

Not a great point at all, because although Cain didn't shoot well deep, he had one of the sweetest mid and short range pull-up jumpers we've ever seen at St. John's. You didn't stop his dribble, you payed. No one played 5 on 4 against us with Cain in the lineup. No one.

Actually I think you are agreeing with him.  Gonzalo stated that we didn't get played 5 on 4 even though Cain didn't have a good outside shot.  I'm not sure how that statement is dfferent from yours unless you don't think Boothe won't/can't be as effective as Cain.

LOL... Cain was before my time... so I can't refer to him. Back to Boothe... I am one of his biggest supporters (I am alumni of St. John's and CTK). I do think he will be a good player for St. John's. All I think he needs to do is work on a mid range jumper (a 3 would be nice as well but I dont think is necessary). I am just hoping that he developed this over the off season!

 

Quote from: jumpinjohnny on September 12, 2008, 03:38:39 PM

Quote from: Jacstorm on September 12, 2008, 02:45:14 PM

Quote from: Choz4Life on September 12, 2008, 10:57:02 AM

Quote from: gonzalo on September 12, 2008, 10:04:12 AM

Quote from: Johnny4Life on September 11, 2008, 04:38:00 PM

All I was trying to say is that Boothe could possibly "make us" or "break us". Make us by creating alot of easy baskets.... and/or break us by not being able to shoot and thus... creating a 5 on 4 for the defense. 

Was David Cain able to shoot? With him I don´t think that it was created a 5 on 4 for the defense.

One again my man gonzalez make a great point.

Not a great point at all, because although Cain didn't shoot well deep, he had one of the sweetest mid and short range pull-up jumpers we've ever seen at St. John's. You didn't stop his dribble, you payed. No one played 5 on 4 against us with Cain in the lineup. No one.

Actually I think you are agreeing with him.  Gonzalo stated that we didn't get played 5 on 4 even though Cain didn't have a good outside shot.  I'm not sure how that statement is dfferent from yours unless you don't think Boothe won't/can't be as effective as Cain.

LOL... Cain was before my time... so I can't refer to him. Back to Boothe... I am one of his biggest supporters (I am alumni of St. John's and CTK). I do think he will be a good player for St. John's. All I think he needs to do is work on a mid range jumper (a 3 would be nice as well but I dont think is necessary). I am just hoping that he developed this over the off season!

Have no fear guys. Just give me the damn ball. My jumper has improved and I am ready to lead this team.

why would u post this

why would u post this

KOB. .  do you really think that is Malik Boothe..?

Quote from: kob24 on September 16, 2008, 01:37:27 PM

why would u post this

KOB. .  do you really think that is Malik Boothe..?

99% likely to be a joke...but can u really put anything past a st johns player or coach? lol

Quote from: pmg911 on September 16, 2008, 01:49:38 PM

Quote from: kob24 on September 16, 2008, 01:37:27 PM

why would u post this

KOB. .  do you really think that is Malik Boothe..?

99% likely to be a joke...but can u really put anything past a st johns player or coach? lol

Quite possible that players and staff read this board. I know they take a certain interest in the Baldi posts

nah that's why I am asking the imature person why would they post it.

nah that's why I am asking the imature person why would they post it.

Lighten up son. It's a j-o-k-e.

malik3...get it?

Quote from: SJD on September 16, 2008, 02:21:59 PM

Quote from: pmg911 on September 16, 2008, 01:49:38 PM

Quote from: kob24 on September 16, 2008, 01:37:27 PM

why would u post this

KOB. .  do you really think that is Malik Boothe..?

99% likely to be a joke...but can u really put anything past a st johns player or coach? lol

Quite possible that players and staff read this board. I know they take a certain interest in the Baldi posts

I know for a fact that malik reads this board.  He is the one who turned me onto this place and redmen.com. Tryed to post on there but registration is closed. Been reading both forums for the last few months and this seems to be the place to go for latest info on sju hoops. Much respect to johnny jungle.

MB has been proving people wrong his whole life.  I expect more of the same over his remaing years at sju. He is the consumate point guard and a decent offensive player. He has great court awareness and a pitbull mentality on defense.

In my opinion he is going to heighten the game of Burell this year by getting him the ball in the right place at the right time. We should also see many more successfull alleyoops this year with him directing the fast break.

Prediction: 16-14,  8-10........... Malik: 7 pts, 8 assists and 2 steals.

Prediction: 16-14,  8-10........... Malik: 7 pts, 8 assists and 2 steals.

8 assists per game will put him near the top of the heap nationally....   bold prediction...

eight assists is a stretch for the worst offensively coached team in the big east.