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eight assists is a stretch for the worst offensively coached team in the big east.

St Johns managed to outscore a couple of Big East teams

I think 5 ast is more of an accurate prediction for Malik running the point

I think 5 ast is more of an accurate prediction for Malik running the point

I also think 5 to 6 assists per game. Definitely 2 steals pg. Only 4 to 6 points pg. But alot less TO's than EL!

Quote from: JJ on September 17, 2008, 02:04:21 PM

I think 5 ast is more of an accurate prediction for Malik running the point

I also think 5 to 6 assists per game. Definitely 2 steals pg. Only 4 to 6 points pg. But alot less TO's than EL!

Offensive flow yo! It will be nice to see a pg with some speed and get the ball up the court in a hurry

Quote from: Johnny4Life on September 17, 2008, 02:11:08 PM

Quote from: JJ on September 17, 2008, 02:04:21 PM

I think 5 ast is more of an accurate prediction for Malik running the point

I also think 5 to 6 assists per game. Definitely 2 steals pg. Only 4 to 6 points pg. But alot less TO's than EL!

Offensive flow yo! It will be nice to see a pg with some speed and get the ball up the court in a hurry

I couldn't agree more.

Also depends on the speed/ number of possessions.  Offensive flow will have to also depend on the decisions the other players make; but Malik, if he uses his speed a little more/ aggressively, he will put up his 5-6 points per game.

eight assists is a stretch for the worst offensively coached team in the big east.

You make a couple good points newsman13. I may have inflated maliks numbers a tad because he is a friend of mine. And I think we all can agree that Norm is no mastermind. But I would not say we were the worst coached offense in the conference either. You have to recognize that junior was hurt, we were a very young squad and our lone senior had an abysmal season running the show. Let's face it. EL was a great representitive for sju off the court. But as far as playing the pont in the big east. He just did not have what it takes to succeed on this level.

From what malk told me yesterday sju is going to be playing a much more up tempo style this year. And to better prepare for this up and down style the entire team has been up at the crack of dawn all week running close to five miles a day alongside the ROTC guys around the track on DaSilva field. Sounds like sju boot-camp is in full effect. Let's hope it pays off down the line

Quote from: newsman13 on September 17, 2008, 12:55:22 PM

eight assists is a stretch for the worst offensively coached team in the big east.

You make a couple good points newsman13. I may have inflated maliks numbers a tad because he is a friend of mine. And I think we all can agree that Norm is no mastermind. But I would not say we were the worst coached offense in the conference either. You have to recognize that junior was hurt, we were a very young squad and our lone senior had an abysmal season running the show. Let's face it. EL was a great representitive for sju off the court. But as far as playing the pont in the big east. He just did not have what it takes to succeed on this level.

From what malk told me yesterday sju is going to be playing a much more up tempo style this year. And to better prepare for this up and down style the entire team has been up at the crack of dawn all week running close to five miles a day alongside the ROTC guys around the track on DaSilva field. Sounds like sju boot-camp is in full effect. Let's hope it pays off down the line

Wow.  I don't want to sound positive or anything but I like the sound of that.

Quote from: newsman13 on September 17, 2008, 12:55:22 PM

eight assists is a stretch for the worst offensively coached team in the big east.

From what malk told me yesterday sju is going to be playing a much more up tempo style this year. And to better prepare for this up and down style the entire team has been up at the crack of dawn all week running close to five miles a day alongside the ROTC guys around the track on DaSilva field. Sounds like sju boot-camp is in full effect. Let's hope it pays off down the line

Music to my ears.

Quote from: malik3 on September 17, 2008, 03:33:52 PM

Quote from: newsman13 on September 17, 2008, 12:55:22 PM

eight assists is a stretch for the worst offensively coached team in the big east.

From what malk told me yesterday sju is going to be playing a much more up tempo style this year. And to better prepare for this up and down style the entire team has been up at the crack of dawn all week running close to five miles a day alongside the ROTC guys around the track on DaSilva field. Sounds like sju boot-camp is in full effect. Let's hope it pays off down the line

Music to my ears.

we have enough players of approximately equal ability...so no one should play until they're winded.
music is the sound of nothing but net.  lots of people running around the track can't put the ball in the hole.  i hope someone is setting up plays while the players are working on their shots.
if that's the case...we might win more than the people at althon expect.

Quote from: qcredman on September 17, 2008, 05:13:20 PM

Quote from: malik3 on September 17, 2008, 03:33:52 PM

Quote from: newsman13 on September 17, 2008, 12:55:22 PM

eight assists is a stretch for the worst offensively coached team in the big east.

From what malk told me yesterday sju is going to be playing a much more up tempo style this year. And to better prepare for this up and down style the entire team has been up at the crack of dawn all week running close to five miles a day alongside the ROTC guys around the track on DaSilva field. Sounds like sju boot-camp is in full effect. Let's hope it pays off down the line

Music to my ears.

we have enough players of approximately equal ability...so no one should play until they're winded.
music is the sound of nothing but net.  lots of people running around the track can't put the ball in the hole.  i hope someone is setting up plays while the players are working on their shots.
if that's the case...we might win more than the people at althon expect.

newsman, Ive been impressed with your posts as of late. Its obvious you attended the Baldi Art of Posting seminar. Maybe you should recommend this fine instruction class to PMG

Quote from: newsman13 on September 17, 2008, 06:51:07 PM

Quote from: qcredman on September 17, 2008, 05:13:20 PM

Quote from: malik3 on September 17, 2008, 03:33:52 PM

Quote from: newsman13 on September 17, 2008, 12:55:22 PM

eight assists is a stretch for the worst offensively coached team in the big east.

From what malk told me yesterday sju is going to be playing a much more up tempo style this year. And to better prepare for this up and down style the entire team has been up at the crack of dawn all week running close to five miles a day alongside the ROTC guys around the track on DaSilva field. Sounds like sju boot-camp is in full effect. Let's hope it pays off down the line

Music to my ears.

we have enough players of approximately equal ability...so no one should play until they're winded.
music is the sound of nothing but net.  lots of people running around the track can't put the ball in the hole.  i hope someone is setting up plays while the players are working on their shots.
if that's the case...we might win more than the people at althon expect.

newsman, Ive been impressed with your posts as of late. Its obvious you attended the Baldi Art of Posting seminar. Maybe you should recommend this fine instruction class to PMG

i know for a fact you told htgs that i was your inspiration.  let's not turn the tables here.

this is funny

Quote from: Johnny4Life on September 17, 2008, 02:11:08 PM

Quote from: JJ on September 17, 2008, 02:04:21 PM

I think 5 ast is more of an accurate prediction for Malik running the point

I also think 5 to 6 assists per game. Definitely 2 steals pg. Only 4 to 6 points pg. But alot less TO's than EL!

Offensive flow yo! It will be nice to see a pg with some speed and get the ball up the court in a hurry

You nailed it Baldi...offensive flow is what Boothe will bring...something we haven't had since Barkley (and sometimes when Cook) was in uniform.

Quote from: Marco Baldi on September 17, 2008, 02:14:43 PM

Quote from: Johnny4Life on September 17, 2008, 02:11:08 PM

Quote from: JJ on September 17, 2008, 02:04:21 PM

I think 5 ast is more of an accurate prediction for Malik running the point

I also think 5 to 6 assists per game. Definitely 2 steals pg. Only 4 to 6 points pg. But alot less TO's than EL!

Offensive flow yo! It will be nice to see a pg with some speed and get the ball up the court in a hurry

You nailed it Baldi...offensive flow is what Boothe will bring...something we haven't had since Barkley (and sometimes when Cook) was in uniform.

Offensive flow is something we didnt see very much of last year.  At some points last year I think the offense just sat and watched Mase with the ball at other points it looked like the offense sat and watched geno dribble.  I am hoping that this team will be much more fast break oriented and when we are in the half court offense we go inside out and make sure burrell touches the ball in every possession.

This team is meant to run uptempo will they run uptempo has remained to be seen. When we played defense, rebounded and got out we were actually pretty tough to stop. We have athletic enough bigs when Burrell and Evans are out on the floor to really get up and down pretty quick.

This team is meant to run uptempo will they run uptempo has remained to be seen. When we played defense, rebounded and got out we were actually pretty tough to stop. We have athletic enough bigs when Burrell and Evans are out on the floor to really get up and down pretty quick.

Couldn't agree more. We may not have been getting players who can shoot the rock better. However, I do believe we are getting better athletes. Therefore, I am hoping Norm will utilize this and have our team running more and playing more pressure defense. Play a guy until he is winded and then sub him in for someone with fresh legs.

Quote from: JJ on September 18, 2008, 11:35:15 AM

This team is meant to run uptempo will they run uptempo has remained to be seen. When we played defense, rebounded and got out we were actually pretty tough to stop. We have athletic enough bigs when Burrell and Evans are out on the floor to really get up and down pretty quick.

Couldn't agree more. We may not have been getting players who can shoot the rock better. However, I do believe we are getting better athletes. Therefore, I am hoping Norm will utilize this and have our team running more and playing more pressure defense. Play a guy until he is winded and then sub him in for someone with fresh legs.

maybe we're getting better athletes...but athlon doesn't believe we're getting better players.  edmondson, roberts and wait are not listed among their top 300 recruits.  it lists us as 15th in recruiting in the big east with notre dame behind us with no recruits at all.  it lists 13 teams that are post season bound...ten to the ncaa and three to the nit with rutgers, south florida and us watching from the sidelines again.

i guess they could be very wrong about this.

I think they are.  South Florida, who do they have in the post?  Gilchrist who, if he gets a waiver, will singlehandedly make a sham of the waiver process. Two young guys in Rivas-Sanchez (from JUCO) and Eladio Espinosa.  They lost three recruits who didn't qualify.  So that's a team with Dominique Jones... Chris Howard... Mike Mercer in January... and he's not that great (at least he wasn't at Georgia). 

Our recruits are unknown, and may not play much.  But damn, South Florida's terrible and they have a bunch of new guys.  DePaul also has a bunch of new guys. Freshmen don't do well in the Big East without upperclassmen picking up the slack.  St. John's could be 16th; the team has done little to convince us that they'll be in the league's upper half.  But any of the last 6-7 teams could fall to the basement. 

I think it might be Seton Hall. 

I think they are.  South Florida, who do they have in the post?  Gilchrist who, if he gets a waiver, will singlehandedly make a sham of the waiver process. Two young guys in Rivas-Sanchez (from JUCO) and Eladio Espinosa.  They lost three recruits who didn't qualify.  So that's a team with Dominique Jones... Chris Howard... Mike Mercer in January... and he's not that great (at least he wasn't at Georgia). 

Our recruits are unknown, and may not play much.  But damn, South Florida's terrible and they have a bunch of new guys.  DePaul also has a bunch of new guys. Freshmen don't do well in the Big East without upperclassmen picking up the slack.  St. John's could be 16th; the team has done little to convince us that they'll be in the league's upper half.  But any of the last 6-7 teams could fall to the basement. 

I think it might be Seton Hall. 

Man, you have to pretty dumb to not get into USF as an athlete.