Ecomonics

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Re: Ecomonics
« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2008, 04:02:58 PM »
returning to the tax codes of the clinton isn't exactly "redistributing the wealth" as the super greedy would have you believe.

that homeless guy may have been a hard worker at one time whose job was cut by corporate mergers.  i should point out veterans make up a large percentage of the homeless.  these are all taxpayers who want to pay taxes again.

an ideal america is where people love the red white and blue more than the green.

PUULEEEZE. If you truly believe this, your naive.

he's just a bleeding heart liberal.
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Re: Ecomonics
« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2008, 04:03:46 PM »
returning to the tax codes of the clinton isn't exactly "redistributing the wealth" as the super greedy would have you believe.

that homeless guy may have been a hard worker at one time whose job was cut by corporate mergers.  i should point out veterans make up a large percentage of the homeless.  these are all taxpayers who want to pay taxes again.

an ideal america is where people love the red white and blue more than the green.

PUULEEEZE. If you truly believe this, your naive.

he's just a bleeding heart liberal.

if he goes any further left. . he is going to be 3 feet from China...

Re: Ecomonics
« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2008, 04:34:49 PM »
returning to the tax codes of the clinton isn't exactly "redistributing the wealth" as the super greedy would have you believe.

that homeless guy may have been a hard worker at one time whose job was cut by corporate mergers.  i should point out veterans make up a large percentage of the homeless.  these are all taxpayers who want to pay taxes again.

an ideal america is where people love the red white and blue more than the green.

PUULEEEZE. If you truly believe this, your naive.

he's just a bleeding heart liberal.

I love when people use the term "bleeding heart."  Basically you're calling them sensitive to those less fortunate?
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Re: Ecomonics
« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2008, 05:17:16 PM »
he's just a bleeding heart liberal.

I love when people use the term "bleeding heart."  Basically you're calling them sensitive to those less fortunate?

In case you didn't know...and it appears you don't...it's a term meant to mock those left wing loons that think every conservative would just as soon walkover somebody as help them up.  Bleeding heart liberals are self righteous and arrogant and think they are the only ones who care about the less fortunate.  Sound familiar?

As they say...If you're not liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you're not conservative when you're older, you have no brain.
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« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2008, 07:04:18 PM »
Over the years I've voted all over the map... and was a McCain supporter 8 years ago. But he's a sorry embarrassment now. As are many (but not all) of his supporters.

"Bleeding heart liberal"?  I laughed so hard when I read that I almost fell out of my chair.

Such old, tired nonsense. Might as well call someone a stinking abolitionist. Can you be any more out of date? But it's kind of fitting. An out of date discredited philosophy (lol can you say Greenspan?) deserves 'brainy' conservatives spouting nonsensical, nasty epithets. Fits with the whole McCain, Palin Rovian campaign.

I'm sure they'd say gfy as well, PMG. It's all they.. and you.. have left. Kinda sad.

btw.. You might want to teach your mantra to some of these others... repeat after me.. 'There are none so blind as those that will not see'.

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« Reply #45 on: October 28, 2008, 07:52:02 PM »
Over the years I've voted all over the map... and was a McCain supporter 8 years ago. But he's a sorry embarrassment now. As are many (but not all) of his supporters.

"Bleeding heart liberal"?  I laughed so hard when I read that I almost fell out of my chair.

Such old, tired nonsense. Might as well call someone a stinking abolitionist. Can you be any more out of date? But it's kind of fitting. An out of date discredited philosophy (lol can you say Greenspan?) deserves 'brainy' conservatives spouting nonsensical, nasty epithets. Fits with the whole McCain, Palin Rovian campaign.

You supported Mccain?  Somehow I doubt that.

Abolitionist, Greenspan, epithets, Rovian...wtf are you talking about?  Talk about nonsensical.
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Re: Ecomonics
« Reply #46 on: October 28, 2008, 07:58:55 PM »
I can't front I am 26 social studies want my favorite subject but u guys sound hella smart even when u are dissing each other. Not one curse word yet I have to step my argument game up

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« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2008, 09:16:50 PM »
lol Sorry, Johnny... I did support McCain and I also thought you were brighter than you clearly are...

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« Reply #48 on: October 28, 2008, 09:19:01 PM »
I can't front I am 26 social studies want my favorite subject but u guys sound hella smart even when u are dissing each other. Not one curse word yet I have to step my argument game up

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« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2008, 09:24:44 PM »
Anyways, y'all best believe I had mad respct fo McCain 'til he pandered to the radicals in his party and then worse,  gettin all Karl Rove on Barack wit this helacious smear campaign.

John McCain use to stand fo sometin. He wuz the anti-Bush, the anti-Cheney, the anti-Rove, the commons sense dogooder in his party. He truly had hisself integrety when he stood up to that hate-filled machine back in '00 and onward.

He lost hisself some of that in the last few month.
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« Reply #50 on: October 28, 2008, 09:26:08 PM »
Let me try and put it simpler… in the last four years we have seen the most concentrated attempt to dismantle our democracy by an administration that we’ve ever seen. A short list: making torture American policy, illegally tapping phones and opening mail, suspending Habeas, creating hideous kangaroo courts for those the government names ‘terrorists’, lying to the congress and the public to justify going to war, politicizing the Justice departmnent, wrong headed and disastrous economic policies, and on and on and on…

And you want more of the same? And Palin as a bonus??

Who is it that doesn’t have a brain?


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« Reply #51 on: October 28, 2008, 09:50:26 PM »
Anyways, y'all best believe I had mad respct fo McCain 'til he pandered to the radicals in his party and then worse,  gettin all Karl Rove on Barack wit this helacious smear campaign.

John McCain use to stand fo sometin. He wuz the anti-Bush, the anti-Cheney, the anti-Rove, the commons sense dogooder in his party. He truly had hisself integrety when he stood up to that hate-filled machine back in '00 and onward.

He lost hisself some of that in the last few month.

Helacious smear campaign? I don't agree.  I honestly don't think its been that bad.  What has McCain done that is so horrible in your opinion?  I can think of two off the top of my head Ayers which IMO is fair game and the whole sex education to kindergartners which bordered on absurd.  To his credit he has stayed away from Reverend Wright issue.

McCain was never good at campaigns and unfortunately he pandered to the far right to win the primary and couldn't get back to center for this election.  I still have a lot of respect for him though.  Would he make a good president?  Honestly...I don't know.  Right now I'm leaning towards no.
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Re: Ecomonics
« Reply #52 on: October 28, 2008, 10:42:15 PM »
Let me try and put it simpler… in the last four years we have seen the most concentrated attempt to dismantle our democracy by an administration that we’ve ever seen. A short list: making torture American policy, illegally tapping phones and opening mail, suspending Habeas, creating hideous kangaroo courts for those the government names ‘terrorists’, lying to the congress and the public to justify going to war, politicizing the Justice departmnent, wrong headed and disastrous economic policies, and on and on and on…

And you want more of the same? And Palin as a bonus??

Who is it that doesn’t have a brain?

Your first mistake is thinking I'm happy with George Bush.

Your second mistake is reading too many liberal blogs.  Dismantle Democracy?  A little overdramatic don't you think. I thought you had some common sense when I read some of your earlier posts but these last two posts make you seem really out there.

Just for kicks I'll go down your list:
1) "Making torture American policy"-I agree with you and so does John McCain.  However, to be honest I enjoyed to hear that KSM was tortured.

2)"Illegally tapping phones and opening mail"- Didn't Barack vote for it?  Whether you want to admit it or not we are in a war with terrorists.  Or maybe you think 9/11 was an inside job?  Anyway if the NSA listening in on a few of my phone calls during a time of war helps stop terrorist attacks then so be it.

3)"Suspending Habeas, creating hideous kangaroo courts for those the government names ‘terrorists’"-Just how many people have been affected by this?  You act like there's Japanese internment camps reopening. 

4)"Lying to the congress and the public to justify going to war" - I agree with you sort of.  But there were more reasons for going to war than just WMD.  Not enough time to go into them here.

5)"politicizing the Justice departmnent"-Yeah thats never been done before

6)"wrong headed and disastrous economic policies" - Just what are those?  There are many reasons for our current economic situation.  The biggest is Fannie and Freddie guaranteeing loans.  Banks didn't care who they were giving loans to because they were just selling them off. That's all George Bush and the Republican's fault?  Everyone...the American public and Democrats and Republicans turned a blind eye to the credit markets because it helped fuel our economic boom.  Now its blowing up in our face but lets lay all the blame on Bush if it makes you feel better.

7) "More of the same?"  Keep singing that campaign slogan but McCain is not George Bush.  Not even close.

8 ) "Palin as a bonus?"  She was a bad pick.  The McCain campaign didn't let her get out and be herself so the media painted her as a wacko(for all I know she could be one).  She blew some interviews and I don't see how she recovers.  Palin most likely costs McCain the election.

Other than the fact that he is not a republican why are you voting for Obama?  Because everybody I talk to that says they are voting for Obama say it is because of Bush but none of them seem to agree with his policies.



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Re: Ecomonics
« Reply #53 on: October 29, 2008, 07:18:29 AM »
Jumpin',

Kinda less fun when we actually discuss issues, but it's probably wise and I'll respect it.

Trouble is, our posts will just get longer and longer, and it's unlikely either of us will convince the other.Let's just say that I think there are truly compelling reasons not to vote for McCain; and even more compelling reasons to vote for Obama. I'm always willing to discuss it off the board if you want.

Re: Ecomonics
« Reply #54 on: October 29, 2008, 09:02:47 AM »
Once again I wanna give a bx shout out to JJ fo settin up this here board where men lay done they arms and discuss topics in tru civilized way.
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« Reply #55 on: October 29, 2008, 10:14:12 PM »
Did anyone get a degree or more in Economics (the initial topic)?

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« Reply #56 on: October 29, 2008, 10:36:21 PM »
have one in marketing/economics.

it's from st john's though.

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« Reply #57 on: October 29, 2008, 10:39:42 PM »
Did anyone get a degree or more in Economics (the initial topic)?
Finance major/Economics minor

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« Reply #58 on: October 30, 2008, 12:43:12 AM »
To those using the "socialist" and "un-American" argument against Barack Obama, wouldn't you say that wiretapping is a basic violation of the Constitution, therefor making it "un-American"?

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/20080606_adviser_mccain_backs_bushs_wiretaps/

I actually support wiretapping phones, but I can't stand hearing this "un-American" argument from people...



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Re: Ecomonics
« Reply #59 on: October 30, 2008, 02:21:05 AM »
Over the years I've voted all over the map... and was a McCain supporter 8 years ago. But he's a sorry embarrassment now. As are many (but not all) of his supporters.

"Bleeding heart liberal"?  I laughed so hard when I read that I almost fell out of my chair.

Such old, tired nonsense. Might as well call someone a stinking abolitionist. Can you be any more out of date? But it's kind of fitting. An out of date discredited philosophy (lol can you say Greenspan?) deserves 'brainy' conservatives spouting nonsensical, nasty epithets. Fits with the whole McCain, Palin Rovian campaign.

You supported Mccain?  Somehow I doubt that.

Abolitionist, Greenspan, epithets, Rovian...wtf are you talking about?  Talk about nonsensical.


I doubt it too.