Just wanna bump this again...
I've been reading the thread on BEB about this, and i really hate it over there so i dont even wanna respond over there...but heres a few things, more specifically about them wanting the students to do something to get norm fired
1- if you really think this current administration will listen to its students about this topic you're just naive
2- we chanted "fire norm" and such last year, and many of the players directly came up to me and told me to stop...it obviously affects the team when we do that, so this would just be like giving the advantage to the away team...it just makes no sense
3- instead of complaining about the students lack of creativity and efforts towards firing norm, why dont YOU do something about it instead of sitting at your computer complaining about any possible thing you can think of
4- stop with the "why dont we do it against the big east teams" nonsense...we havent played any big east teams so how do you know what we're gonna do?
5- can we please also remember that theres only so much you can do at the garden in terms of signs like that...CA is so much smaller and easier to hang signs around...not only is it impossible to hang signs like that at the garden, they're also much more strict about those things, so naturally its easier for the students to come up with more creative things (chants notwithstanding) at CA than it is the garden
6- finally...its time to just get real people...we're college students, i dont know why anyone really expects us to have all this "class"...we're 20 years old, not 60 years old, ofcourse we're gonna be rowdy and obnoxious and "classless"....get over it and just face reality already
I just wanna say that i know many of you who post here thought the signs were funny and didnt care, so this wasnt directed towards you guys....i also wanna say that no matter who complains about it, the students simply dont care what you have to say and if you like it or not, so just stop wasting your time and energy complaining about it because we're not gonna stop just because some grumpy men who dont even show up to the games dont like it
You are missing the main complaint.
Its not the signs or the what the students/fans are doing, its who they are doing it to.
When you SUCK, like St. John's currently, the fans just look silly & show no class making fun of a team that sucks a little more then they do.
The idea of the signs was creative but come up with something creative when they play Seton Hall & Cincy. Don't make fun of THE worst team in all of Division I, say what ever you want.. it looks classless. I mean come on, besisdes for games recaps and one article by Lenn Robbins, the signs got more media coverage from Post then the team did almost all of last season.
Maybe you don't care about that and that is certainly your right but the olders fans, the ones who supported the program for decades, do care.
p.s - if you hate BEB so much, and that is your right too, don't go there. You certainly will not be missed..
You are missing the main point.
Why should our student fans act differently whether we're a winning team or losing team? They just want to help the team be the better team that given night by cheering for our team and heckling the opposing team. They don't show mercy to any teams that are worse than us nor do opposing teams show us any mercy when we're on the road.
First, just because other programs do it doesn't make it right and doesn't mean that St. John's fans can't be above it.
Second, you say the fans just want to help make the team better. How does taking the time and effort to belittle the NJIT team players make St. John's better..?
You have stated on this site that you coach basketball. Would you ever allow an opponent to be belittled.?
The fans have every right to go nuts and be loud an cheer and heckle. But to take the time & effort to make up signs making fun of the WORST team in the country..? Its just weak.