Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's

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Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« on: April 02, 2009, 02:09:18 PM »
So lets take a look at all the scenarios and what does it mean for St. John's?

If Floyd goes to Zona, then Dixon goes to USC, and if Sean Miller is next in line for Pitt does that mean Kevin Parrom becomes available?

If Henry decides to go to Kansas then does Lance come here by default?

What about some other possibilities any of them out there?
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Re: Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2009, 02:56:22 PM »
So lets take a look at all the scenarios and what does it mean for St. John's?

If Floyd goes to Zona, then Dixon goes to USC, and if Sean Miller is next in line for Pitt does that mean Kevin Parrom becomes available?

If Henry decides to go to Kansas then does Lance come here by default?

What about some other possibilities any of them out there?

Who knows if enough guys lose jobs and schools get confused, perhaps Norm will end up at Virginia Tech and we can steal whoever's left.   ???
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Re: Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2009, 03:46:27 PM »
all i know is norm has to be like a vulture. not a hawk but vulture. and when the lions beat each other up and are tired u swoop down and pick up the pieces. like parrom and if pearl leaves then brian williams. there is gonna be alot of point guards left out there go get one. its gonna be a frenzy. u might wanna go at a big boy like sydney.

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Re: Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2009, 03:56:04 PM »
Renardo Sidney?  Brian Williams I could see (what year is he).

What point guards are you thinking of, kob?

Re: Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2009, 04:23:38 PM »
Bri doin a lot better at Tenn than I thought he would. Props.
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Re: Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2009, 04:39:30 PM »
Renardo Sidney?  Brian Williams I could see (what year is he).

What point guards are you thinking of, kob?
DeAndre Liggins, Andrew Steele, Holloway or even Woodall.
Four freshman point guards they ought to inquire about are Vilarino, Jontel Evans, Xavier Thames, and Ben Eblen?

If Haith goes to Georgia, then go after Durand Scott.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2009, 05:11:44 PM by Not The Sleaveless Guy »

Re: Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2009, 05:14:46 PM »
I was going to start a similar thread, and I like the Metaphor you used Kobe , a vulture is the perfect animal for this situation.

SJU has to take a look at all the rosters from the recent coaching changes, look at their SO to incoming recruits and see who is from NY, I think those are the players who have a miniscule chance of coming to SJU

Xavier
Mark Lyons-PG/SG, FR
Terrell Holloway-PG, FR
We all know about Parrom

Virgina
Sylven???


Kansas
Lance ??? 

Alabama ,USC, Arizona , Memphis , Kentucky , Wash St. & Georgia have no New York players on the roster or any incoming prospects from NY as of now.

As the carousel revolves I guess we have to take a look at who Xavier & Memphis hires to expand the list of possible transfer or recruits opting out.
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Re: Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2009, 05:47:17 PM »
Fo real... dont think any of this is gonna have an impact on St. John.
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Re: Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2009, 05:55:55 PM »
I agree with Choz.  I don't see St. John's being a player for transfers - too much uncertainty - and it'd be hard to get in on guys, especially west coast guys, this late in the recruiting game. 

But Norm does find some players in the late period - Quincy, DJ, Evans. 

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Re: Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2009, 06:17:32 PM »
I agree with Choz.  I don't see St. John's being a player for transfers - too much uncertainty - and it'd be hard to get in on guys, especially west coast guys, this late in the recruiting game. 

But Norm does find some players in the late period - Quincy, DJ, Evans.

by find do you mean take the kids no one else wants...dj was the only good late find as he had offers from xavier and wisconsin

Re: Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2009, 06:41:48 PM »
Floyd Is going to be staying with USC....according to ESPN

Re: Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2009, 11:18:25 PM »
Fo real... dont think any of this is gonna have an impact on St. John.

Exactly.  Until Norm proves otherwise, I am going to assume he is going to fail on adding additional talent to this team.  And I would be a complete hypocrite if I turned around and pointed the finger at any of the players for not wanting to come here.

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Re: Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2009, 11:23:34 AM »


If Haith goes to Georgia, then go after Durand Scott.

If Durand Scott was not considering St. John's in the end and nothing has chnaged at St. John's, what would make you think he would pick St. John's the second time around..? The kid went to Miam over UConn. . he is going to have big time schools after him, schools that Norm has proven over and over he can't out recruit.


Re: Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2009, 03:00:40 PM »


If Haith goes to Georgia, then go after Durand Scott.

If Durand Scott was not considering St. John's in the end and nothing has chnaged at St. John's, what would make you think he would pick St. John's the second time around..? The kid went to Miam over UConn. . he is going to have big time schools after him, schools that Norm has proven over and over he can't out recruit.

change of heart, other school might have already filled their roster, omari and him are tight
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Re: Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2009, 05:10:17 PM »


If Haith goes to Georgia, then go after Durand Scott.

If Durand Scott was not considering St. John's in the end and nothing has chnaged at St. John's, what would make you think he would pick St. John's the second time around..? The kid went to Miam over UConn. . he is going to have big time schools after him, schools that Norm has proven over and over he can't out recruit.

I'm not saying this is the situation here but some schools that may have been in his interest may not have a scholly anymore for him and aren't willing to shun someone who is already committed to their team. Therefore he must look elsewhere outside of the acc
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Xavier Henry and brother to Kansas?
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2009, 10:26:03 PM »
  So ESPN is stating through rivals.com that according to X's father, Xavier wants to play at Kansas and with his brother CJ.  They will file an appeal with the NCAA  so CJ doesn't have to sit out the year.  Assuming this transpires, Lance is left at Kansas' altar.  Does he come here by default?  If not,  should Norm just pack his bags and leave in shame?  There is no way this should not work out in SJU's favor.  If it doesn't, Norm should resign.  Simply can't get it done.
« Last Edit: April 04, 2009, 10:27:10 PM by boo3 »

Re: Xavier Henry and brother to Kansas?
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2009, 01:36:44 AM »
  So ESPN is stating through rivals.com that according to X's father, Xavier wants to play at Kansas and with his brother CJ.  They will file an appeal with the NCAA  so CJ doesn't have to sit out the year.  Assuming this transpires, Lance is left at Kansas' altar.  Does he come here by default?  If not,  should Norm just pack his bags and leave in shame?  There is no way this should not work out in SJU's favor.  If it doesn't, Norm should resign.  Simply can't get it done.

boo3, couldn't agree more.  This situation is a gift falling right into Norm's lap.  Logic would suggest that if Lance was between Kansas, SJU, or Maryland and Kansas then rejected him, SJU or Maryland would be in a position to benefit.  However, if Lance turns around and signs with another program, then the writing is on the wall (then again, it's been on the wall for the last 3 years).

If anybody on this board really thinks that a combination of Mason, Lawrence, and Hardy will elevate this team to an NCAA Tournament, let me be the first to tell them they're outta their mind.  They need a difference maker on the court and, if they don't land Lance, they won't be bringing one in (not a surprise since Norm hasn't been able to land 1 in 6 recruiting classes).

If by some chance the team does crack the NIT Tournament next season, I still can't wait to see how the nice persons running this school try and spin it.  It'll surely be interesting ... and depressing.

Re: Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2009, 10:05:02 AM »
Wonder what are chances with Parrom are if Miller leaves?
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Re: Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2009, 01:44:38 PM »
I think Lance chooses another school if Kansas leaves him at the altar.  Norm is a bridesmaid and nothing more.

Re: Coaching Carousel and its impact on St. John's
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2009, 04:36:03 PM »
 Kevin Parrom  smh i dont know whats going on with my future right now
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