Who would have projected this 3 years ago?

http://www.nbadraft.net/2009mock_draft

Take a look at the #57 pick overall.

I realize it's a mock draft, so anything can happen in the real draft.  But to even be thought about is an amazing accomplishment by Ced and Coach Waters!!!

I must say I'm very surprised and his stock and his name has risen drastically. I'm happy for Ced but I still don't think he is that good. I do think NBA teams could take a chance at him if they think he is truly a lock down defender because the shooting could come eventually. I will be very curious how he does in camps prior to the draft. Either way I'm pulling for Ced to do it, I think it would be great.

  If Marcus Hatten couldn't get a sniff at the NBA, i have a hard time believing Ced can.  But you never know,  good luck to him. 

  If Marcus Hatten couldn't get a sniff at the NBA, i have a hard time believing Ced can.  But you never know,  good luck to him.

but are you only looking at scoring?  overall, at pg, ced might have slightly a better shot than marcus considering his skill set...in my opinion it will depend on the year, and who declares

  If Marcus Hatten couldn't get a sniff at the NBA, i have a hard time believing Ced can.  But you never know,  good luck to him.

Different players.  Ced is a little bigger and more athletic (never thought I'd say that about anyone compared with Marcus).  Marcus was a good defender but lazy and guessed a lot trying to get in the passing lanes.  Ced is a straight-up on-ball defender and nasty at it.  He is also a much better passer than Marcus ever was, but Marcus had a much better handle than Ced ever could have. 

Norm really blew this one.  Look at that kid on Michigan State.  He averages only 5.2 ppg, but is a lock-down defender and was the Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year.  Not every player has to score to be useful--especially when they can contribute offensively with great passing and rebounds. 

Quote from: boo3 on April 05, 2009, 09:52:42 AM

  If Marcus Hatten couldn't get a sniff at the NBA, i have a hard time believing Ced can.  But you never know,  good luck to him.

Different players.  Ced is a little bigger and more athletic (never thought I'd say that about anyone compared with Marcus).  Marcus was a good defender but lazy and guessed a lot trying to get in the passing lanes.  Ced is a straight-up on-ball defender and nasty at it.  He is also a much better passer than Marcus ever was, but Marcus had a much better handle than Ced ever could have. 

Norm really blew this one.  Look at that kid on Michigan State.  He averages only 5.2 ppg, but is a lock-down defender and was the Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year.  Not every player has to score to be useful--especially when they can contribute offensively with great passing and rebounds.

  I agree with everything you said especially on the defensive end. I guess the point i was trying to make was that Hatten's strengths (scoring, creating own shot), translate better at the next level than those of a mediocre offensive player thats a lock down defender.  IMO

Quote from: Marillac on April 05, 2009, 01:42:56 PM

Quote from: boo3 on April 05, 2009, 09:52:42 AM

  If Marcus Hatten couldn't get a sniff at the NBA, i have a hard time believing Ced can.  But you never know,  good luck to him.

Different players.  Ced is a little bigger and more athletic (never thought I'd say that about anyone compared with Marcus).  Marcus was a good defender but lazy and guessed a lot trying to get in the passing lanes.  Ced is a straight-up on-ball defender and nasty at it.  He is also a much better passer than Marcus ever was, but Marcus had a much better handle than Ced ever could have. 

Norm really blew this one.  Look at that kid on Michigan State.  He averages only 5.2 ppg, but is a lock-down defender and was the Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year.  Not every player has to score to be useful--especially when they can contribute offensively with great passing and rebounds.

  I agree with everything you said especially on the defensive end. I guess the point i was trying to make was that Hatten's strengths (scoring, creating own shot), translate better at the next level than those of a mediocre offensive player thats a lock down defender.  IMO

You may be right.  It does seem that there is always a million PG-sized SG's available that can really light it up.  Not so many defensive gurus.  I think Ced's handle will keep him from making a team.  Then again, I thought Barkley was a sure thing for the NBA and Hatten would at least stick at the end of some bench.

There have been players who have made a career in the NBA for being defenders. Adrian Griffin, Bruce Bowen, Lindsay Hunter, Michael Curry, and I'm sure if I gave this more thought I could rattle off a few more names.

Also the NBA is funny there have been a few guys who I thought should have been either drafted or made teams that haven't then there are guys like Andre Barrett and Chris Quinn(even getting minutes) in the NBA and I would have never put money on that.


If you want to compare Ced to Hatten then I think you should really throw Ty Rice in this equation. Who would you draft Ty Rice(who is more like Hatten imo) or Ced Jackson?

  Yes they were all great defenders at the NBA level, but in college they were great scorers. Hunter averages 26ppg his jr and sr. years, and may have led the NCAA  his senior year.   I would draft Rice over Ced in a heartbeat,  but thats just 1 man's opinion.

http://www.portsmouthinvitational.com/rosters2.php

No Cedrick Jackson on any roster here, but I do see a Division 2 kid get an invite. Jackson had a pretty good career, but we will never hear from him again unless Gonzalo gives us an update. He will not get drafted and will never sniff the NBA

http://www.portsmouthinvitational.com/rosters2.php

No Cedrick Jackson on any roster here, but I do see a Division 2 kid get an invite. Jackson had a pretty good career, but we will never hear from him again unless Gonzalo gives us an update. He will not get drafted and will never sniff the NBA

Portsmouth is the runner-up camp for draft picks.  Rare to see more than a few kids from that camp get drafted in the first round.  Weird to see Sam Young in that group.

Ced might have received an invite to the better combine.  I see no reason why he wouldn't have been invited to either.

Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 06, 2009, 08:49:27 AM

http://www.portsmouthinvitational.com/rosters2.php

No Cedrick Jackson on any roster here, but I do see a Division 2 kid get an invite. Jackson had a pretty good career, but we will never hear from him again unless Gonzalo gives us an update. He will not get drafted and will never sniff the NBA

Portsmouth is the runner-up camp for draft picks.  Rare to see more than a few kids from that camp get drafted in the first round.  Weird to see Sam Young in that group.

Ced might have received an invite to the better combine.  I see no reason why he wouldn't have been invited to either.

im pretty sure theres only one camp this year

Quote from: Marillac on April 06, 2009, 11:52:34 AM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 06, 2009, 08:49:27 AM

http://www.portsmouthinvitational.com/rosters2.php

No Cedrick Jackson on any roster here, but I do see a Division 2 kid get an invite. Jackson had a pretty good career, but we will never hear from him again unless Gonzalo gives us an update. He will not get drafted and will never sniff the NBA

Portsmouth is the runner-up camp for draft picks.  Rare to see more than a few kids from that camp get drafted in the first round.  Weird to see Sam Young in that group.

Ced might have received an invite to the better combine.  I see no reason why he wouldn't have been invited to either.

im pretty sure theres only one camp this year

It is the only "camp," but there is still a combine in Chicago at the end of May.  The NBA discontinued the pre-draft camp and now will only do combine testing for the athletes they invite.

If I'm Ced's agent, I would have him avoid Portsmouth for sure and workout for the combine where his phsyical numbers will be sure to impress.  His stock cannot be higher after the tournament and it is very unlikely that he would gain anything from Portsmouth.  Most likely he'd be passed up by better PG's. 

I'm sure he was invited, but it is a good move to not attend.

Who's to say he's invited to the combine??

Who's to say he's invited to the combine??

I would think that since they eliminated the 5v5 team games, they will invite a lot more player.  Honestly, I'd be surprised if Ced turned down an invite (or didn't get invited) to Portsmouth if he didn't already receive an invite to the combine.

I think Ced is a "workout warrior."  He'll flash the vertical and the court speed and the rebounding, defensive mechanics, etc.  He's also a very smart kid, so he'll be able to adjust to the drills.

I think he would get exposed by some of the more "pure" PG's out there if he was to do the 5v5 at Portsmouth.

Quote from: peter on April 06, 2009, 04:02:50 PM

Who's to say he's invited to the combine??

I would think that since they eliminated the 5v5 team games, they will invite a lot more player.  Honestly, I'd be surprised if Ced turned down an invite (or didn't get invited) to Portsmouth if he didn't already receive an invite to the combine.

I think Ced is a "workout warrior."  He'll flash the vertical and the court speed and the rebounding, defensive mechanics, etc.  He's also a very smart kid, so he'll be able to adjust to the drills.

I think he would get exposed by some of the more "pure" PG's out there if he was to do the 5v5 at Portsmouth.

I'll be rooting for the kid and hope he gets drafted, but what backup guards already in the league is he better than?

Ced had a great year but he's not sticking with any NBA team, no way.

http://www.portsmouthinvitational.com/rosters2.php

No Cedrick Jackson on any roster here, but I do see a Division 2 kid get an invite. Jackson had a pretty good career, but we will never hear from him again unless Gonzalo gives us an update. He will not get drafted and will never sniff the NBA

FWIW, Siena's Kenny Hasbrouck was the 1st alternate and has been added due to someone declining. Is he better than Ced jackson?