Norms recruits from outside NY

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Norms recruits from outside NY
« on: April 09, 2009, 11:31:04 AM »
I believe Mason was a 3/4 star prospect. Burell was recruited reasonably hard by other big east schools. Everyone else on this roster really wasn't. Most of the players are from outside the NY area. Most of our current players have potential. Many could end up like Tyshawn. My point to this is why take chances on kids from MIchigan or Kentucky. Larry Wright wasn't offered by any of the top schools in the MID west. No mich st. no michigan. Not even schools like Northwestern or Butler were interested. Why take a chance on him? Edmonson is from Kentucky. Again no SEC interest. Why not take a chance on a guy from Brooklyn or the Bronx. This would improve relations with local coaches and I think attract more local talent. If all we are going to get are scraps atleast we could relationships with local schools. If there players do well we will start recieving interst from their better players. 

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Re: Norms recruits from outside NY
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2009, 11:32:28 AM »
I believe Mason was a 3/4 star prospect. Burell was recruited reasonably hard by other big east schools. Everyone else on this roster really wasn't. Most of the players are from outside the NY area. Most of our current players have potential. Many could end up like Tyshawn. My point to this is why take chances on kids from MIchigan or Kentucky. Larry Wright wasn't offered by any of the top schools in the MID west. No mich st. no michigan. Not even schools like Northwestern or Butler were interested. Why take a chance on him? Edmonson is from Kentucky. Again no SEC interest. Why not take a chance on a guy from Brooklyn or the Bronx. This would improve relations with local coaches and I think attract more local talent. If all we are going to get are scraps atleast we could relationships with local schools. If there players do well we will start recieving interst from their better players.

Problem is Norm makes them transfer or they end up transferring which burns the bridges to the school that you just built one to.  See Dexter Gray, Mount Vernon High School.
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Re: Norms recruits from outside NY
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2009, 12:07:49 PM »
Tony, I think you're overestimating what's available and how some of these cats got here.  Each year the brighter talents in NYC-area get snapped up early, make their commitments.  I don't remember how they came on to Larry Wright, but that kid had some talent; and he came in the spring, after the Wiggins thing (and I think St. John's had offered Edgar Sosa but he signed in the fall?  Not sure) and after they'd signed Q Calhoun in the fall.  But maybe they thought they had more of a chance with the local ballers before branching out to the JUCOs and guys that weren't necessarily going to qualify (Kitchen, Rob Thomas) in the late signing period in a rush attempt to snap up some talent in the recruiting class.

The Burrell/ Boothe year, he got a number of in-state players, found Paris Horne playing with Burrell (I assume).  But when two more schollies came open (Patterson + Ricky Torres, a city player), he was looking at scraps.  I don't remember who was around then, but Kennedy, at least, was deciding between decent lower-level Big 6/ BCS schools (Georgia, I think was the main competition).  Sean Evans was a raw talent they found in that same rush attempt to find talent.

Last year, well you know.  Struck out on Mookie and Kevin Jones.  Devoe Joseph and his fam thought the situation was unstable and went somewhere else.  On the Morris twins.  And then on Syl.  And then the staff was looking at Krys Faber, Quincy Roberts (who I think they saw during the season as well), and dudes who could fill the roster.

Were there NYC ballers who were as good as what they ended up with and were available?  Maybe not; NYC players get exposure, there are a lot of schools in the area (and who recruit the area), many of the players worth a damn have signed by the spring period.  Who's out there?  Lance.  Keith Spellman.  Tevin Baskin.  James Stukes is uncommitted, I think.  Can't think of anyone else.

Re: Norms recruits from outside NY
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2009, 01:29:43 PM »
I believe Mason was a 3/4 star prospect. Burell was recruited reasonably hard by other big east schools. Everyone else on this roster really wasn't. Most of the players are from outside the NY area. Most of our current players have potential. Many could end up like Tyshawn. My point to this is why take chances on kids from MIchigan or Kentucky. Larry Wright wasn't offered by any of the top schools in the MID west. No mich st. no michigan. Not even schools like Northwestern or Butler were interested. Why take a chance on him? Edmonson is from Kentucky. Again no SEC interest. Why not take a chance on a guy from Brooklyn or the Bronx. This would improve relations with local coaches and I think attract more local talent. If all we are going to get are scraps atleast we could relationships with local schools. If there players do well we will start recieving interst from their better players.

I think that is a good point, I heard we could of had Truck . Sean Johnson could be that type of player he had one hell of a year.However I also agree the kids come here and see that Norm is not a good coach and bounce.
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Re: Norms recruits from outside NY
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2009, 02:36:30 PM »
Thing is this: we had ourselves three NYC ballers on the roster this year.
Thats straight up wrong.
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Re: Norms recruits from outside NY
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2009, 07:31:20 PM »
Thing is this: we had ourselves three NYC ballers on the roster this year.
Thats straight up wrong.
St. John is NYC. NYC is St. John.

Next year we will 5 or 6.NYC kids on the team. Kids do not even want to play High School basketball in NYC anymore. It is escape from NY.

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Re: Norms recruits from outside NY
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2009, 03:45:26 AM »
I believe Mason was a 3/4 star prospect. Burell was recruited reasonably hard by other big east schools. Everyone else on this roster really wasn't. Most of the players are from outside the NY area. Most of our current players have potential. Many could end up like Tyshawn. My point to this is why take chances on kids from MIchigan or Kentucky. Larry Wright wasn't offered by any of the top schools in the MID west. No mich st. no michigan. Not even schools like Northwestern or Butler were interested. Why take a chance on him? Edmonson is from Kentucky. Again no SEC interest. Why not take a chance on a guy from Brooklyn or the Bronx. This would improve relations with local coaches and I think attract more local talent. If all we are going to get are scraps atleast we could relationships with local schools. If there players do well we will start recieving interst from their better players.

I agree.