Proof that Norm will not be fired anytime soon by admin

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Proof that Norm will not be fired anytime soon by admin
« on: September 19, 2009, 11:49:27 PM »
I am friends with Jayson Blair, former NY Times columnist turned Life Coach AKA Psychologist without the Masters or Doctorate. I was reading his blog and he wrote one on what makes a good athletic coach and here is what he said:

A good coach should recognize that winning is not everything and that the process of trying is where young people develop, build their self-confidence, recognize their talents and learn to cope with their weaknesses.

Coaching is a process of teaching skills, helping people develop intuition and self-awareness and building character. Coaches should seek to understand and motivate their players. In a one-on-one setting this is easier to do, but in a group setting coaches can teach people to lead and should help their players coach each other.

The best coach teaches life skills along with sports skills. Motivating begins with understanding the kids you work with, putting yourself in their shoes and coming up with ways to help them accomplish their goals, see their potential and get to know themselves better. These are the tools that help them learn to motivate themselves.

The temptation for those who coach a large group of people is to focus on a few players, the most talented, their favorites and the ones who are most like them. Some coaches also fall into the trap of attempting to motivate players through yelling at them and putting them down. This is generally a failure in the coach at truly spending the time to identify what motivates their players. Intuition, analytical abilities, leading by example, being able to model healthy relationships and positive motivation are the most important skills for a good coach -- not to mention being able to laugh and have fun.



Norm fits his description. Players like Norm, Players GPAs are up, Rob Thomas did a 180 on his life while at SJU, they learn under Norm. The only weakness in this is that Norm does alienate one player each year from the Mold leading to a transfer like Larry Wright or Cedric Jackson. And BTW, if you are thinking, why am I quoting a man who plagrized articles during his tenure at the Times, He did it because he has a severe case of Bipolar Disorder which I can sympathize to because I have it and some cases lead to heavy drug use which he spent most of the day doing which left him no time to plan interviews and was forced to make up or steal quotes (BTW, I never did drugs) and he would still have a journalism job if he worked for the Post covering St Johns basketball during the Willie Shaw-Marcus Hatten-Grady Reynolds-Abe Keita era since Willie and Marcus were busted for weed and part of Bipolar is strong sexual urges and he could have gotten inside info in Pittsburgh during that sad night. One more thing, I did not pay much attention to the Jayson Blair scandal in 2003 because I was friends with Rachel Seager and she was bugging me to talk to Lenn Robbins in his quest to bring down St Johns and word around the athletic department was Robbins was the more pathetic journalist (Its true, Robbins broke a story as an exclusive in September of 2004 that the Garden would not renew SJU lease there and SJU was close to signing with Nassau Coliseum to play their games there but 2 days later, the Garden signed a new deal with SJU)

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Re: Proof that Norm will not be fired anytime soon by admin
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2009, 12:07:42 AM »
  I think i've seen it all now.  This is your "proof" that Norm will not be fired?  Jason Blair?   really? 

 Maybe drugs are not such a bad idea :D

Re: Proof that Norm will not be fired anytime soon by admin
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2009, 12:48:59 AM »
BTW, this post was meant for debate, my posistion is being AMBIVALENT towards the firing of Norm from FIRE HIM NOW earlier this year. I will not retake an offical position until the end of this season. My goal was to show everyone the mystery of why Norm is liked by Admin and he is still here. The final part was to show my evidence of why Admin likes him and to prove why Jayson acted so badly during his tenure at the Times and what life would have been like if he was a St Johns beat reporter (that always makes me laugh if he had Lenn's job, Jayson I mean).

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Re: Proof that Norm will not be fired anytime soon by admin
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2009, 09:14:45 AM »
BTW, this post was meant for debate, my posistion is being AMBIVALENT towards the firing of Norm from FIRE HIM NOW earlier this year. I will not retake an offical position until the end of this season. My goal was to show everyone the mystery of why Norm is liked by Admin and he is still here. The final part was to show my evidence of why Admin likes him and to prove why Jayson acted so badly during his tenure at the Times and what life would have been like if he was a St Johns beat reporter (that always makes me laugh if he had Lenn's job, Jayson I mean).

  This is exactly the reason Norm is here as coach, and it is no mystery.  The title of your post threw me off a little. Unfortunatley this attitude by the admin.  probably won't win very many basketball games as is evidenced by the previous 5 years.
  I am not a big Norm fan,  but i am a SJU fan.  So i'm stuck with him again.   So be it.  I feel one way or another this will be the year.   We either have a good year, play exciting basketball, and make the NCAAs or fall on our faces again and start from scratch again in 2010 with a new coach(at least that is what the admin.  has let the fanbase believe will happen).
 

Re: Proof that Norm will not be fired anytime soon by admin
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2009, 10:07:51 AM »
This is D1 college ball.
You dont win. You gone.
That the way its been. Even St. John will reckon wit that.
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Re: Proof that Norm will not be fired anytime soon by admin
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2009, 11:44:33 AM »
bakinny..i won't address the major flaws in your arguments...except to say the ONLY reason norm is still around is because he's worshipful around father harrington.

fran couldn't put up with FH's bs.  he openly threatened to find another job and was left holding the bag, so to speak.

jarvis disrespected FH by not showing up at the president's dinner...so FH scrooged before christmas.

norm learned how to lay low.  that's the secret of his success.

Re: Proof that Norm will not be fired anytime soon by admin
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2009, 12:44:30 PM »
News, there are flaws to this arugement I agree but I posted this in the aspect that I remember one time someone posted that all that Harrington cares about is that the program is not an embarassment again and that the team is better characters off the court unlike under Jarvis. Someone said that its going to be hard to fire him when 11 out of the 12 players like him on his team each year. We have all come to accept on this board that Harrington does not care about creating a winning program otherwise Norm would have been fired already. Read this post and think in Harrington's shoes what creates a great coach. To me what creates a great college coach is what Jayson said and a coach that makes his players better on the court in an extreme fashion. Jay Wright is one of the perfect college coaches. Nova's budget and enrollment is the same as us and they are proof that a school without a FBS team can dominate the hardwood. But SJU cares more about players character right now than winning championships and Jayson's Blog is a more of a thinking mentality of what Harrington and Monasch are thinking

P.S. I did address the flaw that Norm does alienate players always leading to our yearly transfer of 1 or 2 players especially good ones like Larry Wright

Re: Proof that Norm will not be fired anytime soon by admin
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2009, 09:23:24 PM »
bakinny..i won't address the major flaws in your arguments...except to say the ONLY reason norm is still around is because he's worshipful around father harrington.

fran couldn't put up with FH's bs.  he openly threatened to find another job and was left holding the bag, so to speak.

jarvis disrespected FH by not showing up at the president's dinner...so FH scrooged before christmas.

norm learned how to lay low.  that's the secret of his success.

Bingo and of course no problems off the court by the team.

Re: Proof that Norm will not be fired anytime soon by admin
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2009, 12:01:28 AM »
a belated happy new year to you and yours, redmannorth.

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Re: Proof that Norm will not be fired anytime soon by admin
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2009, 07:00:13 PM »

Let's maybe switch out "proof" for "opinion" or another more appropraite word.

Norm should be gone if this team doesn't make the ncaas. This is college ball here, not hs. They get paid the big bucks to win, not to raise GPA.
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