Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?

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Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2009, 03:24:43 PM »
BTW, Carmine with the smackdown! 

Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2009, 03:28:08 PM »
This has been a great thread so far lets not loose sight of that please.

I'm a little torn right now. I think Boothe might be best served starting games, yanked quickly, and finishing games due to ball handling. Tha Kid has a point in a sense of when do we make runs? I do think this team needs Boothe though and if he can step his game up ever so slightly it would be so beneficial.

To we are sju I think you've gone off the deep end a little lol. I know you're half kidding in all your posts but its not as bad as you paint it.

So now I want to pose another question. If Boothe sits in favor of Hardy, then how do we run our offense? Do the same problems persist with lack of PG production?

Our offense is swinging the ball around the perimeter. Hardy just needs to bring the ball up the court and the offense has been going through Kennedy anyway. How many teams really pressure the ball full court anymore? Norm has been playing Hardy at the point anyway, he should just do it more. This is mostly for when Mase comes back to alleviate the glut of two guards. Really there is no reason to play to unproductive point guards, especially in the offense that we umm...run! 

Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2009, 03:29:40 PM »
If Boothe sits in favor of Hardy, then how do we run our offense? Do the same problems persist with lack of PG production?

Malik II won't sit and his minutes won't drop below 20 at any point this season. Of this I'm sure.

Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2009, 03:37:37 PM »
More scoring options huh?
The team is averaging 70.6 a game. Last year after 9 games and admittedly worse comp the team was averaging 75.7!

Yes, more scoring options. 

We have all the same scoring options as last season ( I'm taking the liberty of not considering Tomas or TyEd scoring options) and now have added two more in JB2 and D-buckets (sidenote..Malik III and Omari look like they could sometimes throw the ball through the orange metal thing but I won't include them here for this excersise).  So, Prez, Hilton, JB1 and Evans makes 4 last year add 2 more this year...divide by 3...carry the 1... and that makes 6 scoring options this season. 

Since 6 > 4...We have more scoring options.  Now this is simple.

I didn't say we've scored more points than last season. I said we have more scoring options which you'll agree we do.

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Lawrence is averaging 2.8 ppg an honestly both guys minutes will disappear if Mason can ever come back.

Omari made the list as an example of our improved depth. He's 10th off the bench, a freshman, a well regarded signing and is not without reedeming qualities.  Our 10th off the benth last year was a walk on I can't name.

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At this rate we might have to start comparing Justin to Jasilonzxzxzcis.

If you don't know that JB1 is better than Tomas, we should cease and desist discussing basketball immediately.

What do you know about fencing?

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UM .....SO YEAH, THE MAIN REASON WE HAVE HAD SOME SUCCESS THIS YEAR IS DJ KENNEDY!

Prez has been great thus far.  I know this.  I actually go see games...jab...jab.

But this years bench of Hardy boyz, JB2, Dele, Malik III and Omari is much deeper, much bettter and far more effective than last years bench of Dele, Q, TyEd and Tomas.

This is so obvious that even Father H can see this and knows that having more good players has been a huge factor in our early season success.  I'm surprised a knowledgeable fan such as yourself can't.

DJ is not rowing this boat alone, and it's unfair to write that he is.

So lets see they have more scoring options, they just don't score I see how that works. So in your mind if you walked into a bar where there were 20 girls all of which were bull dyke lesbo's, in your mind you had 20 scoring opportunities simply by the number of girls in the bar.

As far as not rowing the boat alone I think the skipper would have finished that 3 hour tour if Gilligan had not been helping him. DJ is surrounded by Gilligan's!

Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2009, 04:17:14 PM »
More scoring options huh?
The team is averaging 70.6 a game. Last year after 9 games and admittedly worse comp the team was averaging 75.7!

Yes, more scoring options. 

We have all the same scoring options as last season ( I'm taking the liberty of not considering Tomas or TyEd scoring options) and now have added two more in JB2 and D-buckets (sidenote..Malik III and Omari look like they could sometimes throw the ball through the orange metal thing but I won't include them here for this excersise).  So, Prez, Hilton, JB1 and Evans makes 4 last year add 2 more this year...divide by 3...carry the 1... and that makes 6 scoring options this season. 

Since 6 > 4...We have more scoring options.  Now this is simple.

I didn't say we've scored more points than last season. I said we have more scoring options which you'll agree we do.

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Lawrence is averaging 2.8 ppg an honestly both guys minutes will disappear if Mason can ever come back.

Omari made the list as an example of our improved depth. He's 10th off the bench, a freshman, a well regarded signing and is not without reedeming qualities.  Our 10th off the benth last year was a walk on I can't name.

Quote
At this rate we might have to start comparing Justin to Jasilonzxzxzcis.

If you don't know that JB1 is better than Tomas, we should cease and desist discussing basketball immediately.

What do you know about fencing?

Quote
UM .....SO YEAH, THE MAIN REASON WE HAVE HAD SOME SUCCESS THIS YEAR IS DJ KENNEDY!

Prez has been great thus far.  I know this.  I actually go see games...jab...jab.

But this years bench of Hardy boyz, JB2, Dele, Malik III and Omari is much deeper, much bettter and far more effective than last years bench of Dele, Q, TyEd and Tomas.

This is so obvious that even Father H can see this and knows that having more good players has been a huge factor in our early season success.  I'm surprised a knowledgeable fan such as yourself can't.

DJ is not rowing this boat alone, and it's unfair to write that he is.

So lets see they have more scoring options, they just don't score I see how that works. So in your mind if you walked into a bar where there were 20 girls all of which were bull dyke lesbo's, in your mind you had 20 scoring opportunities simply by the number of girls in the bar.

As far as not rowing the boat alone I think the skipper would have finished that 3 hour tour if Gilligan had not been helping him. DJ is surrounded by Gilligan's!

20 lesbos? Scoring opportunities? Challenge accepted!
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Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2009, 04:23:23 PM »
More scoring options huh?
The team is averaging 70.6 a game. Last year after 9 games and admittedly worse comp the team was averaging 75.7!

Yes, more scoring options. 

We have all the same scoring options as last season ( I'm taking the liberty of not considering Tomas or TyEd scoring options) and now have added two more in JB2 and D-buckets (sidenote..Malik III and Omari look like they could sometimes throw the ball through the orange metal thing but I won't include them here for this excersise).  So, Prez, Hilton, JB1 and Evans makes 4 last year add 2 more this year...divide by 3...carry the 1... and that makes 6 scoring options this season. 

Since 6 > 4...We have more scoring options.  Now this is simple.

I didn't say we've scored more points than last season. I said we have more scoring options which you'll agree we do.

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Lawrence is averaging 2.8 ppg an honestly both guys minutes will disappear if Mason can ever come back.

Omari made the list as an example of our improved depth. He's 10th off the bench, a freshman, a well regarded signing and is not without reedeming qualities.  Our 10th off the benth last year was a walk on I can't name.

Quote
At this rate we might have to start comparing Justin to Jasilonzxzxzcis.

If you don't know that JB1 is better than Tomas, we should cease and desist discussing basketball immediately.

What do you know about fencing?

Quote
UM .....SO YEAH, THE MAIN REASON WE HAVE HAD SOME SUCCESS THIS YEAR IS DJ KENNEDY!

Prez has been great thus far.  I know this.  I actually go see games...jab...jab.

But this years bench of Hardy boyz, JB2, Dele, Malik III and Omari is much deeper, much bettter and far more effective than last years bench of Dele, Q, TyEd and Tomas.

This is so obvious that even Father H can see this and knows that having more good players has been a huge factor in our early season success.  I'm surprised a knowledgeable fan such as yourself can't.

DJ is not rowing this boat alone, and it's unfair to write that he is.

So lets see they have more scoring options, they just don't score I see how that works. So in your mind if you walked into a bar where there were 20 girls all of which were bull dyke lesbo's, in your mind you had 20 scoring opportunities simply by the number of girls in the bar.

As far as not rowing the boat alone I think the skipper would have finished that 3 hour tour if Gilligan had not been helping him. DJ is surrounded by Gilligan's!

20 lesbos? Scoring opportunities? Challenge accepted!

You went to ST John's and live at the shore,you have no game! You would need 20 passed out girls to have a 50% chance of scoring :)

BTW did you get to hang out with any of the
" Jersey Shore" cast this past summer?

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Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2009, 06:07:54 PM »
Sounds like we got a Situation on our hands...
"I drink and I know things"

Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2009, 06:17:45 PM »
More scoring options huh?
The team is averaging 70.6 a game. Last year after 9 games and admittedly worse comp the team was averaging 75.7!

Yes, more scoring options. 

We have all the same scoring options as last season ( I'm taking the liberty of not considering Tomas or TyEd scoring options) and now have added two more in JB2 and D-buckets (sidenote..Malik III and Omari look like they could sometimes throw the ball through the orange metal thing but I won't include them here for this excersise).  So, Prez, Hilton, JB1 and Evans makes 4 last year add 2 more this year...divide by 3...carry the 1... and that makes 6 scoring options this season. 

Since 6 > 4...We have more scoring options.  Now this is simple.

I didn't say we've scored more points than last season. I said we have more scoring options which you'll agree we do.

Quote
Lawrence is averaging 2.8 ppg an honestly both guys minutes will disappear if Mason can ever come back.

Omari made the list as an example of our improved depth. He's 10th off the bench, a freshman, a well regarded signing and is not without reedeming qualities.  Our 10th off the benth last year was a walk on I can't name.

Quote
At this rate we might have to start comparing Justin to Jasilonzxzxzcis.

If you don't know that JB1 is better than Tomas, we should cease and desist discussing basketball immediately.

What do you know about fencing?

Quote
UM .....SO YEAH, THE MAIN REASON WE HAVE HAD SOME SUCCESS THIS YEAR IS DJ KENNEDY!

Prez has been great thus far.  I know this.  I actually go see games...jab...jab.

But this years bench of Hardy boyz, JB2, Dele, Malik III and Omari is much deeper, much bettter and far more effective than last years bench of Dele, Q, TyEd and Tomas.

This is so obvious that even Father H can see this and knows that having more good players has been a huge factor in our early season success.  I'm surprised a knowledgeable fan such as yourself can't.

DJ is not rowing this boat alone, and it's unfair to write that he is.

So lets see they have more scoring options, they just don't score I see how that works. So in your mind if you walked into a bar where there were 20 girls all of which were bull dyke lesbo's, in your mind you had 20 scoring opportunities simply by the number of girls in the bar.

As far as not rowing the boat alone I think the skipper would have finished that 3 hour tour if Gilligan had not been helping him. DJ is surrounded by Gilligan's!

20 lesbos? Scoring opportunities? Challenge accepted!

You went to ST John's and live at the shore,you have no game! You would need 20 passed out girls to have a 50% chance of scoring :)

BTW did you get to hang out with any of the
" Jersey Shore" cast this past summer?

Oh boy! Fighting words....I don't go to Seaside. I go to seaside once a year for their St. Paddys day parade. Thats a really good time and it's guido free.
Follow Johnny Jungle on Twitter at @Johnny_Jungle

Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2009, 02:07:00 AM »
So lets see they have more scoring options, they just don't score I see how that works.


I really thought you were going to hit this meatball out of the park, but you whiffed.  Poor coaching by slappy? 

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bull dyke lesbo's

I don't have a comment.  I just like the imagery.

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As far as not rowing the boat alone I think the skipper would have finished that 3 hour tour if Gilligan had not been helping him. DJ is surrounded by Gilligan's!

In previous posts you have implied that all of our players stink except for Prez and Evans. I guess now after a couple of bad games you've thrown Sean on the trash heap as well.

Your brand of fandom in which you can only like one player on the team at a time (Michigan, now Prez), and put down all the rest, seems odd to me. 

« Last Edit: December 18, 2009, 02:10:58 AM by carmineabbatiello »

Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2009, 02:08:39 AM »
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« Last Edit: December 18, 2009, 02:10:17 AM by carmineabbatiello »

Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #50 on: December 18, 2009, 09:08:20 AM »
So lets see they have more scoring options, they just don't score I see how that works.


I really thought you were going to hit this meatball out of the park, but you whiffed.  Poor coaching by slappy? 

Quote
bull dyke lesbo's

I don't have a comment.  I just like the imagery.

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As far as not rowing the boat alone I think the skipper would have finished that 3 hour tour if Gilligan had not been helping him. DJ is surrounded by Gilligan's!

In previous posts you have implied that all of our players stink except for Prez and Evans. I guess now after a couple of bad games you've thrown Sean on the trash heap as well.

Your brand of fandom in which you can only like one player on the team at a time (Michigan, now Prez), and put down all the rest, seems odd to me.

Carmine,
I think Kennedy is very, very good. But I don't think he is a number one option on a tourney team!
Evans, Horne, Brownlee, the way Coker is currently playing and maybe Hardy would be nice complimentary players on a solid team. Burrell has fell off the map and while I was being sarcastic, his stats ARE starting to creep into the Jasilonzxzxzcis zone.
I don't think Kennedy can play any better and unless Hardy, Horne or a comebacking Mason can play at close to Kennedy's level, I don't see us us making the tourney. I am just being honest! If Kennedy continuees to play at this level and someone else steps up, the team will be better than I thought and win 17 or 18 games. This is an improvement for sure, but not tourney improvement!
« Last Edit: December 18, 2009, 09:14:35 AM by we are sju »

Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #51 on: December 18, 2009, 09:53:28 AM »
Sounds like we got a Situation on our hands...

That guy is hysterical and the best character but he embarrased guidos everywhere and Staten Island from where he is original from by just standing there as that guy decked that little midget broad with a right cross!

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Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #52 on: December 18, 2009, 10:19:46 AM »
Sounds like we got a Situation on our hands...

That guy is hysterical and the best character but he embarrased guidos everywhere and Staten Island from where he is original from by just standing there as that guy decked that little midget broad with a right cross!

He was trying to buy the guys extra shots right before it!  I'd say he was trying to diffuse the situation rather than be the situation....
"I drink and I know things"

Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #53 on: December 18, 2009, 10:29:31 AM »
Sounds like we got a Situation on our hands...

That guy is hysterical and the best character but he embarrased guidos everywhere and Staten Island from where he is original from by just standing there as that guy decked that little midget broad with a right cross!

He was trying to buy the guys extra shots right before it!  I'd say he was trying to diffuse the situation rather than be the situation....

Still those meatheads did not do anything until the cops were already arresting the guy. Terrible day for guidos everywhere and a black eye for Dave's hometown!

Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #54 on: December 18, 2009, 11:44:26 AM »
So lets see they have more scoring options, they just don't score I see how that works.


I really thought you were going to hit this meatball out of the park, but you whiffed.  Poor coaching by slappy? 

Quote
bull dyke lesbo's

I don't have a comment.  I just like the imagery.

Quote
As far as not rowing the boat alone I think the skipper would have finished that 3 hour tour if Gilligan had not been helping him. DJ is surrounded by Gilligan's!

In previous posts you have implied that all of our players stink except for Prez and Evans. I guess now after a couple of bad games you've thrown Sean on the trash heap as well.

Your brand of fandom in which you can only like one player on the team at a time (Michigan, now Prez), and put down all the rest, seems odd to me.

Carmine,
I think Kennedy is very, very good. But I don't think he is a number one option on a tourney team!
Evans, Horne, Brownlee, the way Coker is currently playing and maybe Hardy would be nice complimentary players on a solid team. Burrell has fell off the map and while I was being sarcastic, his stats ARE starting to creep into the Jasilonzxzxzcis zone.
I don't think Kennedy can play any better and unless Hardy, Horne or a comebacking Mason can play at close to Kennedy's level, I don't see us us making the tourney. I am just being honest! If Kennedy continuees to play at this level and someone else steps up, the team will be better than I thought and win 17 or 18 games. This is an improvement for sure, but not tourney improvement!

Wasju,
Out of the 300 some odd D1 teams in the great US of A, perhaps 10 have deep lineups of talented blue chippers right through the roster.

Then the bulk of them are probably like us.  One real gem ( I still believe hilton will be 18 carats again to make two ) and many diamonds in the rough. 

For the first time in the Norm error/era?,  we have a good amount of players that do some things well.

Here's hoping the sum of the whole will be greater than the sum of it's parts to the same extent that 6 scoring options is greater than 4 scoring options.

Me? I just want to beat Hofstra.

Are you going to the Holiday?

P.S.
I know if you would have seen the man to man defense we slapped on Temple in the second half of a tough road game, you would have been proud of the boys.


Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #55 on: December 18, 2009, 01:26:43 PM »
So lets see they have more scoring options, they just don't score I see how that works.


I really thought you were going to hit this meatball out of the park, but you whiffed.  Poor coaching by slappy? 

Quote
bull dyke lesbo's

I don't have a comment.  I just like the imagery.

Quote
As far as not rowing the boat alone I think the skipper would have finished that 3 hour tour if Gilligan had not been helping him. DJ is surrounded by Gilligan's!

In previous posts you have implied that all of our players stink except for Prez and Evans. I guess now after a couple of bad games you've thrown Sean on the trash heap as well.

Your brand of fandom in which you can only like one player on the team at a time (Michigan, now Prez), and put down all the rest, seems odd to me.

Carmine,
I think Kennedy is very, very good. But I don't think he is a number one option on a tourney team!
Evans, Horne, Brownlee, the way Coker is currently playing and maybe Hardy would be nice complimentary players on a solid team. Burrell has fell off the map and while I was being sarcastic, his stats ARE starting to creep into the Jasilonzxzxzcis zone.
I don't think Kennedy can play any better and unless Hardy, Horne or a comebacking Mason can play at close to Kennedy's level, I don't see us us making the tourney. I am just being honest! If Kennedy continuees to play at this level and someone else steps up, the team will be better than I thought and win 17 or 18 games. This is an improvement for sure, but not tourney improvement!

Wasju,
Out of the 300 some odd D1 teams in the great US of A, perhaps 10 have deep lineups of talented blue chippers right through the roster.

Then the bulk of them are probably like us.  One real gem ( I still believe hilton will be 18 carats again to make two ) and many diamonds in the rough. 

For the first time in the Norm error/era?,  we have a good amount of players that do some things well.

Here's hoping the sum of the whole will be greater than the sum of it's parts to the same extent that 6 scoring options is greater than 4 scoring options.

Me? I just want to beat Hofstra.

Are you going to the Holiday?

P.S.
I know if you would have seen the man to man defense we slapped on Temple in the second half of a tough road game, you would have been proud of the boys.

Every team has a best player, some team's best player however is not allways suited for that role. Take Mase and Geno as examples of this. While Kennedy is clearly better and much,much,much, will tire from typing much's better than those two guys, I just don't see him as a best player on a tourney team in a major conference. It is not a knock, I think he would be a great second banana. My only problem is we def have a different understanding of OPTIONS. Horne to me would be a great role player on a very good team, but at 6-3(listed, which we all know means he is 6-1) with a inconsistent jumper, even with how he played last year he is just not suited for being the second best player on a good team! I like Horne and compared him to David Wingate who was a very good player, but on the better Gtown team's he was a role player!
In a perfect world Burrell would have stepped up to be the player I am talking about as he is the one guy with the SKILLS to do so, but that aint happening. Hopefully Hardy or a returning Mase could step up to that role, but I do feel many of you are going to be very disappointed with the way this season turns out. 

Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #56 on: December 18, 2009, 01:50:56 PM »
So lets see they have more scoring options, they just don't score I see how that works.


I really thought you were going to hit this meatball out of the park, but you whiffed.  Poor coaching by slappy? 

Quote
bull dyke lesbo's

I don't have a comment.  I just like the imagery.

Quote
As far as not rowing the boat alone I think the skipper would have finished that 3 hour tour if Gilligan had not been helping him. DJ is surrounded by Gilligan's!

In previous posts you have implied that all of our players stink except for Prez and Evans. I guess now after a couple of bad games you've thrown Sean on the trash heap as well.

Your brand of fandom in which you can only like one player on the team at a time (Michigan, now Prez), and put down all the rest, seems odd to me.

Carmine,
I think Kennedy is very, very good. But I don't think he is a number one option on a tourney team!
Evans, Horne, Brownlee, the way Coker is currently playing and maybe Hardy would be nice complimentary players on a solid team. Burrell has fell off the map and while I was being sarcastic, his stats ARE starting to creep into the Jasilonzxzxzcis zone.
I don't think Kennedy can play any better and unless Hardy, Horne or a comebacking Mason can play at close to Kennedy's level, I don't see us us making the tourney. I am just being honest! If Kennedy continuees to play at this level and someone else steps up, the team will be better than I thought and win 17 or 18 games. This is an improvement for sure, but not tourney improvement!

Wasju,
Out of the 300 some odd D1 teams in the great US of A, perhaps 10 have deep lineups of talented blue chippers right through the roster.

Then the bulk of them are probably like us.  One real gem ( I still believe hilton will be 18 carats again to make two ) and many diamonds in the rough. 

For the first time in the Norm error/era?,  we have a good amount of players that do some things well.

Here's hoping the sum of the whole will be greater than the sum of it's parts to the same extent that 6 scoring options is greater than 4 scoring options.

Me? I just want to beat Hofstra.

Are you going to the Holiday?

P.S.
I know if you would have seen the man to man defense we slapped on Temple in the second half of a tough road game, you would have been proud of the boys.

Every team has a best player, some team's best player however is not allways suited for that role. Take Mase and Geno as examples of this. While Kennedy is clearly better and much,much,much, will tire from typing much's better than those two guys, I just don't see him as a best player on a tourney team in a major conference. It is not a knock, I think he would be a great second banana. My only problem is we def have a different understanding of OPTIONS. Horne to me would be a great role player on a very good team, but at 6-3(listed, which we all know means he is 6-1) with a inconsistent jumper, even with how he played last year he is just not suited for being the second best player on a good team! I like Horne and compared him to David Wingate who was a very good player, but on the better Gtown team's he was a role player!
In a perfect world Burrell would have stepped up to be the player I am talking about as he is the one guy with the SKILLS to do so, but that aint happening. Hopefully Hardy or a returning Mase could step up to that role, but I do feel many of you are going to be very disappointed with the way this season turns out.

Is it not possible that through heart, hustle and good man to man defense we could overcome these personelle limitations you perceive and turnout to be a halfway decent team that squeeks into the tourney and motivates you to come see one game?

Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #57 on: December 18, 2009, 02:23:34 PM »
So lets see they have more scoring options, they just don't score I see how that works.


I really thought you were going to hit this meatball out of the park, but you whiffed.  Poor coaching by slappy? 

Quote
bull dyke lesbo's

I don't have a comment.  I just like the imagery.

Quote
As far as not rowing the boat alone I think the skipper would have finished that 3 hour tour if Gilligan had not been helping him. DJ is surrounded by Gilligan's!

In previous posts you have implied that all of our players stink except for Prez and Evans. I guess now after a couple of bad games you've thrown Sean on the trash heap as well.

Your brand of fandom in which you can only like one player on the team at a time (Michigan, now Prez), and put down all the rest, seems odd to me.

Carmine,
I think Kennedy is very, very good. But I don't think he is a number one option on a tourney team!
Evans, Horne, Brownlee, the way Coker is currently playing and maybe Hardy would be nice complimentary players on a solid team. Burrell has fell off the map and while I was being sarcastic, his stats ARE starting to creep into the Jasilonzxzxzcis zone.
I don't think Kennedy can play any better and unless Hardy, Horne or a comebacking Mason can play at close to Kennedy's level, I don't see us us making the tourney. I am just being honest! If Kennedy continuees to play at this level and someone else steps up, the team will be better than I thought and win 17 or 18 games. This is an improvement for sure, but not tourney improvement!

Wasju,
Out of the 300 some odd D1 teams in the great US of A, perhaps 10 have deep lineups of talented blue chippers right through the roster.

Then the bulk of them are probably like us.  One real gem ( I still believe hilton will be 18 carats again to make two ) and many diamonds in the rough. 

For the first time in the Norm error/era?,  we have a good amount of players that do some things well.

Here's hoping the sum of the whole will be greater than the sum of it's parts to the same extent that 6 scoring options is greater than 4 scoring options.

Me? I just want to beat Hofstra.

Are you going to the Holiday?

P.S.
I know if you would have seen the man to man defense we slapped on Temple in the second half of a tough road game, you would have been proud of the boys.

Every team has a best player, some team's best player however is not allways suited for that role. Take Mase and Geno as examples of this. While Kennedy is clearly better and much,much,much, will tire from typing much's better than those two guys, I just don't see him as a best player on a tourney team in a major conference. It is not a knock, I think he would be a great second banana. My only problem is we def have a different understanding of OPTIONS. Horne to me would be a great role player on a very good team, but at 6-3(listed, which we all know means he is 6-1) with a inconsistent jumper, even with how he played last year he is just not suited for being the second best player on a good team! I like Horne and compared him to David Wingate who was a very good player, but on the better Gtown team's he was a role player!
In a perfect world Burrell would have stepped up to be the player I am talking about as he is the one guy with the SKILLS to do so, but that aint happening. Hopefully Hardy or a returning Mase could step up to that role, but I do feel many of you are going to be very disappointed with the way this season turns out.

Is it not possible that through heart, hustle and good man to man defense we could overcome these personelle limitations you perceive and turnout to be a halfway decent team that squeeks into the tourney and motivates you to come see one game?

I think the problem is HEART! You are thinking with yours. NORM COMPLIMENT ALERT. His teams always have played defense and hard for the most part. This team is deeper and more talented, I just feel it comes up short offensively and in the coaching dep't to make the NCAA's.

As far as going to games, I used to go to almost every Garden game. I only go to Queens for Met games and I am thinking about boycotting Queens altogether as my New Year's resolution. The combination of finding people who were willing to sit through our games even for free ticks, family obligations and boring offense severly cut down my game attendance the last few years. Now with WASJU jr it will only be tougher, but if we are still playing well into BE season I will go to some games. I am sure good seats will still be available ;)

Tha Kid

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Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #58 on: December 18, 2009, 02:43:08 PM »
Sounds like we got a Situation on our hands...

That guy is hysterical and the best character but he embarrased guidos everywhere and Staten Island from where he is original from by just standing there as that guy decked that little midget broad with a right cross!

He was trying to buy the guys extra shots right before it!  I'd say he was trying to diffuse the situation rather than be the situation....

Still those meatheads did not do anything until the cops were already arresting the guy. Terrible day for guidos everywhere and a black eye for Dave's hometown!

I was pretty shocked they didn't tear him apart.

How dumb/drunk do you have to be to not only punch a girl, but to do it on camera? 
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Re: Lack of assists by PG's cause for concern?
« Reply #59 on: December 18, 2009, 02:56:22 PM »
Sounds like we got a Situation on our hands...

That guy is hysterical and the best character but he embarrased guidos everywhere and Staten Island from where he is original from by just standing there as that guy decked that little midget broad with a right cross!

He was trying to buy the guys extra shots right before it!  I'd say he was trying to diffuse the situation rather than be the situation....

Still those meatheads did not do anything until the cops were already arresting the guy. Terrible day for guidos everywhere and a black eye for Dave's hometown!

I was pretty shocked they didn't tear him apart.

How dumb/drunk do you have to be to not only punch a girl, but to do it on camera?

Obviously I have heard of dirtbags hitting their spouse/girlfriend, but I have never heard of someone hauling off and belting some random girl.