WVU Post Game Discussion

Well I for one am not a fan of chanting negative stuff like that during games. I can see how distracting and hurtful it could be to the players.

HOWEVER

I know the crowd was behind the team for 30 min of this game and it turned ugly when the game was well out of reach. Coaches should know this NEW YORK....put up or shut up. I think fans have been more than fair over the years and if they want the chants to stop maybe they should worry about game planning and figuring things out than worrying what students do.

Also Redzone is a joke. The people in charge don't know the difference between the sideline and baseline. They did all they could to get rid of me when I was a student and it motivated me to create Johnny Jungle where real fans come. Someday the school will wise up and drop redzone and officially deem the student section the jungle.

Honestly the redzone does do a lot of good things like away trips and these johnnies VIP things are really nice however they need to get off there horse. They can't tell us what to chant and they can't kick us out of games for chanting fire Roberts.

Dave us students have respected(thats another story with me and the cheerleading coach haha) and supported the team for norms 6 years here. Enough is enough. this was suppose to be our year and we are argueably the worst team in the Big East.

The few of us that actually care need to show our displeasure outside of these message boards

Norm Must GO

Coachs should worry about how to attack zone defenses instead of calling spirit committiees.

Redzone gets the benefit of a nice budget from the university to do those things. Personally I'd like to see more things besides burger/pizza bbqs. They've gotten better with road trips however St. John's needs to loosen up the reigns on students who go on these. Let college kids be exactly that and not treat them like prisoners inside a gated community.

Look at Illinois today on ESPN and they had more students at today's game than we have combined all season.

The Illini love their teams. Good or bad.
I went to a football game there when they were 0-5.

When the Illini took the field, they got a standing O.

Just was watching Northern Iowa VS Southern Illinois on ESPN News. I wasn't watching that closely but the arena was filled and fans were going crazy. These schools know what to do. How come SJU doesn't.

Northern Iowa is for real.  Book a Sweet 16 for them this year.  Very impressive team.

Northern Iowa is for real.  Book a Sweet 16 for them this year.  Very impressive team.

Lets go after the coach.double his money to coach in the BIG EAST !

Northern Iowa is for real.  Book a Sweet 16 for them this year.  Very impressive team.

And you thought SJU had a good chance of making the tourney! I used to think you knew what you were talking about. hahaha.

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Northern Iowa is for real.  Book a Sweet 16 for them this year.  Very impressive team.

And you thought SJU had a good chance of making the tourney! I used to think you knew what you were talking about. hahaha.

St. John's definitely had a great chance at making the tourney this year but they haven't capitalized on anything. I still think a majority of our losses could have been wins and we are more talented than many teams we've lost too. I think thats where most of my frustration lies. Years past I knew we were out manned or out classed but this year I don't feel that way. I'm appalled at the poor utilization of our variety of talent.

Dickie V just said it's "sad" that only 5,000 people would show up to see us play a top 10 team at the Garden.

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Exactly.

I understand that the players would certainly be upset at the student chanting for norms firing at the game.  The chant for the coach to be fired really does signal the end of an era for a college basketball team.  When a coach is fired its likely that several players transfer and recruits reconsider their decision to end the school (from the sounds of how much potential this roberts kid is suppose to have, that could be a shame).  The chants from the students are essentially asking everything that the players know to end.  It has to be completely disheartening.  Unfortunately for these players, the time has come for the Norm era to end.  Its sad for them, but they have to know that the team is not performing to big east exceptions and the exceptions of the students.

I also understand why the redzone people are annoyed with the chants and why they want to stop he chants.  But, throwing students out for chanting anything short of profanity or racism remarks is a little draconian.

(To the poster mentioning first amendments rights, St. John's can't violate your first amendment rights because they aren't a state action.  The first amendment only grants protections against the state and its agents.  So, unfortunately, SJU can toss you from the gym and their campus for anything you say and not violate the first amendment.)

SJU cannot toss you out of MSG.  The security guards can, but I doubt they'd cowtow to a bunch of redzone #$%^ers.

So don't say "Fire Roberts" just chant something a bit more creative that gets your point across.

"We want a coach"

"We want change"

"6 years too long"

"Billy Donovan....Bobby Knight......We want a coach.....who will make us right"

"Redzone Sucks"

So don't say "Fire Roberts" just chant something a bit more creative that gets your point across.

"We want a coach"

"We want change"

"6 years too long"

"Billy Donovan....Bobby Knight......We want a coach.....who will make us right"

"Redzone Sucks"

Oh c'mon, Dave.  This is just silly.  Then we can give out trophies to kids who finish in last place....

I've been thrown out of games Marillac its not fun. They're pretty arbitrary dealing with the kids and they pay money for these tix so they want to stay for the entire game. I'd much rather stick it to the school in being creative with a chant than saying one thing and being thrown out.

the only thing i would say instead of fire roberts, is:

"waste of 6 years."
or
"wheres my refund"

After the game, we were told by redzone that it would be the last time we'd chant that this year, and that we'd be kicked out of every game we chant that.

Did you tell them about the first amendment of the constitution?