THE END OF Coach Roberts' Reign as SJU Head Coach

would u rather have cal take us to a national champ then have the entire season erased bc he committed 12 ncaa violations?

Missed game but it sounds like the kids play'd hard but same result.....Norm can't say the kids didn't care because they played hard for him.

Screw this whole idea of moving him upstairs...Take your 800K plus the millions you've made in the last 6 years (and haven't earned) and make like a tree and get out of here...

this is called hatred

would u rather have cal take us to a national champ then have the entire season erased bc he committed 12 ncaa violations?

lmao

I think bigmaxnosause is so bitter towards NR is because he tried out as a walk on in Norms first year at St. Johns and didn't make the cut.

Screw this whole idea of moving him upstairs...Take your 800K plus the millions you've made in the last 6 years (and haven't earned) and make like a tree and get out of here...

Make like a tree and get the #$%^ out....

what movie is that from?

Quote from: bigmaxnosauce on March 17, 2010, 11:19:00 PM

Screw this whole idea of moving him upstairs...Take your 800K plus the millions you've made in the last 6 years (and haven't earned) and make like a tree and get out of here...

Make like a tree and get the #$%^ out....

what movie is that from?

back to the future...biff to marty mcfly

A guy getting whacked is nothing to cheer or chirp about. He didn't steal his salary. his players didn't tie people up and rob them, his players didn't punch anyone on the court. He doesn't have a laundry list of violations. He didn't bang any chicks on restaurant tables. He's just guilty of having poor assistants who weren't x and o savy.

His players obviously loved him and wanted to play hard for him. Maybe if D Buckets was healthy...he would have hit an extra shot and we would be prepping for Miss St v posters wanting another NIT coach, Greenberg.

Anyone who has lost their job, either fairly or unfairly, knows this really isn't anything worth celebrating.

A guy getting whacked is nothing to cheer or chirp about. He didn't steal his salary. his players didn't tie people up and rob them, his players didn't punch anyone on the court. He doesn't have a laundry list of violations. He didn't bang any chicks on restaurant tables. He's just guilty of having poor assistants who weren't x and o savy.

His players obviously loved him and wanted to play hard for him. Maybe if D Buckets was healthy...he would have hit an extra shot and we would be prepping for Miss St v posters wanting another NIT coach, Greenberg.

Anyone who has lost their job, either fairly or unfairly, knows this really isn't anything worth celebrating.

Norm has been paid upwards of 4 million dollars by this university.  He has become a household name in NYC because of St. John's.  He will have an opportunity to work on tv, get a head coaching job elsewhere, or become an assistant again.  He even gets a BUY OUT.

Don't act like this is a guy at the steel mill trying to feed a family of four. 

A guy getting whacked is nothing to cheer or chirp about. He didn't steal his salary. his players didn't tie people up and rob them, his players didn't punch anyone on the court. He doesn't have a laundry list of violations. He didn't bang any chicks on restaurant tables. He's just guilty of having poor assistants who weren't x and o savy.

His players obviously loved him and wanted to play hard for him. Maybe if D Buckets was healthy...he would have hit an extra shot and we would be prepping for Miss St v posters wanting another NIT coach, Greenberg.

Anyone who has lost their job, either fairly or unfairly, knows this really isn't anything worth celebrating.

Great post! Not to mention so called fans rooting for a loss

kid...its not we dont want norm fired we dont want 4/20 man either.

kid...its not we dont want norm fired we dont want 4/20 man either.

you guys want HOFers or NOTHING.  I'm asking for a list of 5 guys or so who are REALISTIC.  No Donovan, no Pitino.  give me a list of 5.

I'd take any of....Greenburg, Willard, McCaffery, Hewitt, anyone else (in no particular order)

Quote from: buckeyestorm on March 18, 2010, 10:01:14 PM

kid...its not we dont want norm fired we dont want 4/20 man either.

you guys want HOFers or NOTHING.  I'm asking for a list of 5 guys or so who are REALISTIC.  No Donovan, no Pitino.  give me a list of 5.

Why is Pitino not realistic? once again, if were shelling out 1.5M for 6 years, shortent the contract 2.25M for 4 years or 3M for 3 years. until the admin attempt this and at the very least makess a phone call, we should not defer to 4/20 man.

Quote from: Tha Kid on March 18, 2010, 10:16:10 PM

Quote from: buckeyestorm on March 18, 2010, 10:01:14 PM

kid...its not we dont want norm fired we dont want 4/20 man either.

you guys want HOFers or NOTHING.  I'm asking for a list of 5 guys or so who are REALISTIC.  No Donovan, no Pitino.  give me a list of 5.

Why is Pitino not realistic? once again, if were shelling out 1.5M for 6 years, shortent the contract 2.25M for 4 years or 3M for 3 years. until the admin attempt this and at the very least makess a phone call, we should not defer to 4/20 man.

We haven't had a big name in 20 years.  Just play my game, pick 5 "realistic" guys.  Who are yours?

Quote from: Tha Kid on March 18, 2010, 10:16:10 PM

Quote from: buckeyestorm on March 18, 2010, 10:01:14 PM

kid...its not we dont want norm fired we dont want 4/20 man either.

you guys want HOFers or NOTHING.  I'm asking for a list of 5 guys or so who are REALISTIC.  No Donovan, no Pitino.  give me a list of 5.

Why is Pitino not realistic? once again, if were shelling out 1.5M for 6 years, shortent the contract 2.25M for 4 years or 3M for 3 years. until the admin attempt this and at the very least makess a phone call, we should not defer to 4/20 man.

I'm not gonna sit here and pretend I know much of anything about Seth Greenberg's past, but I keep seeing people refer to this 4\20 and acting like the other 16 years his teams were completely uncompetitive. He may not have made the NCAAs for those years, but was he not atleast competitive and on the bubble for some of those years? Again, I'm not gonna pretend I know about his previous teams, but I find it hard to believe that his 4 tournament years were his only competitive years and that his teams were never in the hunt for the tournament the other 16. How many times have we been in serious talks about making the NCAA tournament under norm? Zero.

Everybody wanted a change, but now nobody wants a change unless its for a hall of famer. Norm has reached his peak, he's not going to take this team much further than he already has. A guy like Greenberg would give us a chance at the NCAAs every year, and we'd undoubtedly make the tournament some of those years. Isn't that what we've been asking for for a decade now?

If he peaks as a coach that can take us to the tourny every few years but was never able to take us to the "next level" as a serious threat in the tournament, well you know what? St. John's will no longer be irrelevent in college basketball and will be regarded as a better job than it is now, and then maybe at that point we'd be able to land a REAL home run coach.

With all that being said, I'm not even saying that Greenberg would be my #1 choice, but for some people to say that he'd be no better than norm is IMO silly. No one is declaring Greenberg a "home run" but hes definitely a step up and at the very least a step in the right direction.

With all that being said, I'm not even saying that Greenberg would be my #1 choice, but for some people to say that he'd be no better than norm is IMO silly. No one is declaring Greenberg a "home run" but hes definitely a step up and at the very least a step in the right direction.

your not understanding my point, he is better, but not for 1.5M/yr when hes only making 850K at Vtech. maybe not a home run salary, but very well capable if the contract length is shorten to 4 years (2.25M/yr) or even 3 years (3M/yr).  its not all or nothing its just selling yourself short.....look if SJU wanted greenburg and paid him 20% more than he was making @ vtech, i would be less critical.

Buckeye who cares about the money?  Is it coming out of your pocket?


You must not have been an economics or finance major if you think that st johns being able to offer a 6 year 1.5 mil per year contract is the same as going 3 mil for 3 or 2.25 for 4.  Stop saying it, it makes no sense.  Or do you picture fr harrington swimmming in a vault of exactly 9 mil that he can use on a coach.  And what after the 3 yrs? We fire pitino bc the 9 mil ran out? Logic makes no sense.  Jeez.

Buckeye - I'm starting to think you're worse than baldi.

For the sake of argument, assume pitino and donovan are off limits.

Name 5 realistic candidates.