Steve Lavin for Red Storm

How is this process botched?

It's a process...

The only thing botched right now is the media and their coverage of this.

no the process does suck..the right way to do it is to gather your coaches that you know have interest..interview one by one and then make ur offer to your best candidate..AD has started to do that which he prob learned...who knows the story with donovan but if it is true than thats not right way to go about it

it's very hard to tell if the process has stunk.  i DO agree with Dave that the media is doing a terrible job.  but because the media is doing such a poor job, its hard to tell how the admin is going about this. 

Lavin would be a great hire.  The standards at UCLA are insane.  Howland, who I consider one of the best coaches in the country, is already getting a lot of heat after taking them to three Final Fours!  That should tell you all you need to know right there.

My only concern with Lavin is that he has not been recruiting for the last seven years.  All of our other candidates have been, and have active ties and built relationships with the current
recruits.  He would have to really load his staff up with some connected NYC guys. 

I would really like this hire if McCaffrey is out of the picture.

I've seen him on the summer circuit. He's still close to Trigonis and the Pumps, who can help him get WC players. If the school gets an elite recruiter, they're not going to need to be beholden to the cyclical talent and AAU coaches in NYC, which has declined in stature over the past decade.

no the process does suck..the right way to do it is to gather your coaches that you know have interest..interview one by one and then make ur offer to your best candidate..AD has started to do that which he prob learned...who knows the story with donovan but if it is true than thats not right way to go about it

How many hiring processes of head coaches have you been a part of which would give you an idea of the right and wrong way to do things?

Do you have first hand knowledge of what the AD has or has not done?

So you're saying who knows the story with Donovan meaning that no one knows really yet you're also saying we didn't go about it the right way? Aren't you contradicting yourself?

There have been plenty of inaccuracies and misconceptions about this process and the media is largely to blame.

no the process does suck..the right way to do it is to gather your coaches that you know have interest..interview one by one and then make ur offer to your best candidate..AD has started to do that which he prob learned...who knows the story with donovan but if it is true than thats not right way to go about it

what do you mean...putting all the prospects in one room at the same time?

you cast a net...not everyone will bite...you pick the best one who does. 

because not everyone would be interested doesn't mean it's a rejection.

the media is giving us a bad rap to deflect all the mistakes they've made by getting their stories off the blogs.

The players hated him.

But they won.

Our players loved Norm and we didn´t win.

Quote from: worldsgreatest10 on March 28, 2010, 01:48:07 PM

no the process does suck..the right way to do it is to gather your coaches that you know have interest..interview one by one and then make ur offer to your best candidate..AD has started to do that which he prob learned...who knows the story with donovan but if it is true than thats not right way to go about it

what do you mean...putting all the prospects in one room at the same time?

you cast a net...not everyone will bite...you pick the best one who does. 

because not everyone would be interested doesn't mean it's a rejection.

the media is giving us a bad rap to deflect all the mistakes they've made by getting their stories off the blogs.

no i said u put together a list of of coaches you feel will have interest in your school and one by one bring em in for an interview...nowhere in my response did i say you bring em all in at once

Quote from: worldsgreatest10 on March 28, 2010, 01:48:07 PM

no the process does suck..the right way to do it is to gather your coaches that you know have interest..interview one by one and then make ur offer to your best candidate..AD has started to do that which he prob learned...who knows the story with donovan but if it is true than thats not right way to go about it

How many hiring processes of head coaches have you been a part of which would give you an idea of the right and wrong way to do things?

Do you have first hand knowledge of what the AD has or has not done?

So you're saying who knows the story with Donovan meaning that no one knows really yet you're also saying we didn't go about it the right way? Aren't you contradicting yourself?

There have been plenty of inaccuracies and misconceptions about this process and the media is largely to blame.

have not been apart of any but i follow sports and the way a hiring process goes is that put together candidates and have em come in one by one for an an interview and a decision is made by the other party and an offer is given to whomever they feel is the worth candidate...

Quote from: Dave on March 28, 2010, 02:43:29 PM

Quote from: worldsgreatest10 on March 28, 2010, 01:48:07 PM

no the process does suck..the right way to do it is to gather your coaches that you know have interest..interview one by one and then make ur offer to your best candidate..AD has started to do that which he prob learned...who knows the story with donovan but if it is true than thats not right way to go about it

How many hiring processes of head coaches have you been a part of which would give you an idea of the right and wrong way to do things?

Do you have first hand knowledge of what the AD has or has not done?

So you're saying who knows the story with Donovan meaning that no one knows really yet you're also saying we didn't go about it the right way? Aren't you contradicting yourself?

There have been plenty of inaccuracies and misconceptions about this process and the media is largely to blame.

have not been apart of any but i follow sports and the way a hiring process goes is that put together candidates and have em come in one by one for an an interview and a decision is made by the other party and an offer is given to whomever they feel is the worth candidate...

Well hate to break it to you but thats what St. John's has been doing. No one has been officially "offered" a job at St. John's. Not even Hewitt. There was a stronger interest in Hewitt though than the other candidates so far.

Quote from: worldsgreatest10 on March 28, 2010, 03:06:47 PM

Quote from: Dave on March 28, 2010, 02:43:29 PM

Quote from: worldsgreatest10 on March 28, 2010, 01:48:07 PM

no the process does suck..the right way to do it is to gather your coaches that you know have interest..interview one by one and then make ur offer to your best candidate..AD has started to do that which he prob learned...who knows the story with donovan but if it is true than thats not right way to go about it

How many hiring processes of head coaches have you been a part of which would give you an idea of the right and wrong way to do things?

Do you have first hand knowledge of what the AD has or has not done?

So you're saying who knows the story with Donovan meaning that no one knows really yet you're also saying we didn't go about it the right way? Aren't you contradicting yourself?

There have been plenty of inaccuracies and misconceptions about this process and the media is largely to blame.

have not been apart of any but i follow sports and the way a hiring process goes is that put together candidates and have em come in one by one for an an interview and a decision is made by the other party and an offer is given to whomever they feel is the worth candidate...

Well hate to break it to you but thats what St. John's has been doing. No one has been officially "offered" a job at St. John's. Not even Hewitt. There was a stronger interest in Hewitt though than the other candidates so far.

well it obviously has not worked..how do you  know hewitt has not been offered a job?

Quote from: Dave on March 28, 2010, 03:21:27 PM

Quote from: worldsgreatest10 on March 28, 2010, 03:06:47 PM

Quote from: Dave on March 28, 2010, 02:43:29 PM

Quote from: worldsgreatest10 on March 28, 2010, 01:48:07 PM

no the process does suck..the right way to do it is to gather your coaches that you know have interest..interview one by one and then make ur offer to your best candidate..AD has started to do that which he prob learned...who knows the story with donovan but if it is true than thats not right way to go about it

How many hiring processes of head coaches have you been a part of which would give you an idea of the right and wrong way to do things?

Do you have first hand knowledge of what the AD has or has not done?

So you're saying who knows the story with Donovan meaning that no one knows really yet you're also saying we didn't go about it the right way? Aren't you contradicting yourself?

There have been plenty of inaccuracies and misconceptions about this process and the media is largely to blame.

have not been apart of any but i follow sports and the way a hiring process goes is that put together candidates and have em come in one by one for an an interview and a decision is made by the other party and an offer is given to whomever they feel is the worth candidate...

Well hate to break it to you but thats what St. John's has been doing. No one has been officially "offered" a job at St. John's. Not even Hewitt. There was a stronger interest in Hewitt though than the other candidates so far.

well it obviously has not worked..how do you  know hewitt has not been offered a job?

The process isn't over so you can't say it did or did not work?

I have legit sources  I wouldn't post it if I didn't know it to be 100% true.

sorry doubt your sources are better than those of  ny post's, ny daily news'...they said he was offered a contract...come on your from CBA how good can your sources be ...haha just playin

sorry doubt your sources are better than those of  ny post's, ny daily news'...they said he was offered a contract...come on your from CBA how good can your sources be ...haha just playin

You could choose not to believe me. I know that I'm right though.

Quote from: worldsgreatest10 on March 28, 2010, 03:36:28 PM

sorry doubt your sources are better than those of  ny post's, ny daily news'...they said he was offered a contract...come on your from CBA how good can your sources be ...haha just playin

You could choose not to believe me. I know that I'm right though.

i believe you...whos going to be our next coach then?

Quote from: Dave on March 28, 2010, 03:55:26 PM

Quote from: worldsgreatest10 on March 28, 2010, 03:36:28 PM

sorry doubt your sources are better than those of  ny post's, ny daily news'...they said he was offered a contract...come on your from CBA how good can your sources be ...haha just playin

You could choose not to believe me. I know that I'm right though.

i believe you...whos going to be our next coach then?

That I don't know 

Quote from: worldsgreatest10 on March 28, 2010, 03:58:06 PM

Quote from: Dave on March 28, 2010, 03:55:26 PM

Quote from: worldsgreatest10 on March 28, 2010, 03:36:28 PM

sorry doubt your sources are better than those of  ny post's, ny daily news'...they said he was offered a contract...come on your from CBA how good can your sources be ...haha just playin

You could choose not to believe me. I know that I'm right though.

i believe you...whos going to be our next coach then?

That I don't know 

well get our your sources CBA boy....save us all the agony

http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/extras/colleges_blog/2010/03/lavin_front_run.html
  dont know how reliable it is being that it is coming from shit hole mass..i mean boston mass

Quote from: Dave on March 28, 2010, 03:59:07 PM

Quote from: worldsgreatest10 on March 28, 2010, 03:58:06 PM

Quote from: Dave on March 28, 2010, 03:55:26 PM

Quote from: worldsgreatest10 on March 28, 2010, 03:36:28 PM

sorry doubt your sources are better than those of  ny post's, ny daily news'...they said he was offered a contract...come on your from CBA how good can your sources be ...haha just playin

You could choose not to believe me. I know that I'm right though.

i believe you...whos going to be our next coach then?

That I don't know 

well get our your sources CBA boy....save us all the agony

I'd prefer you just call me Dave. I have a tremendous amount of pride in my high school but it doesn't need to be brought up in every post whether its in a positive/negative regard.

It's weird that you want me to name who the coach is going to be when earlier today you were bitching that we don't gather a list of candidates before offering to one exclusively. Make up your mind!

So like I said before the school is currently pursuing many different coaches in an effort to seek the best candidate. The media frenzy may focus on one coach at a time but its not like that in reality. We're not going from person A down to person B to person C its more like Group A and Group B.

Lavin is definitely a person that should be taken very seriously and as the coaching carousel takes some more twists and turns the interest level could increase very rapidly.

Quote from: worldsgreatest10 on March 28, 2010, 04:11:54 PM

Quote from: Dave on March 28, 2010, 03:59:07 PM

Quote from: worldsgreatest10 on March 28, 2010, 03:58:06 PM

Quote from: Dave on March 28, 2010, 03:55:26 PM

Quote from: worldsgreatest10 on March 28, 2010, 03:36:28 PM

sorry doubt your sources are better than those of  ny post's, ny daily news'...they said he was offered a contract...come on your from CBA how good can your sources be ...haha just playin

You could choose not to believe me. I know that I'm right though.

i believe you...whos going to be our next coach then?

That I don't know 

well get our your sources CBA boy....save us all the agony

I'd prefer you just call me Dave. I have a tremendous amount of pride in my high school but it doesn't need to be brought up in every post whether its in a positive/negative regard.

It's weird that you want me to name who the coach is going to be when earlier today you were bitching that we don't gather a list of candidates before offering to one exclusively. Make up your mind!

So like I said before the school is currently pursuing many different coaches in an effort to seek the best candidate. The media frenzy may focus on one coach at a time but its not like that in reality. We're not going from person A down to person B to person C its more like Group A and Group B.

Lavin is definitely a person that should be taken very seriously and as the coaching carousel takes some more twists and turns the interest level could increase very rapidly.

pipe down chief....i didnt same name the coach..im just trying to get a feel of what your reliable "sources" are saying..that has nothing to do with me being curious as to what your "sources" are saying  and how i feel the coaching process should be played out...dont tell me to make up my mind or to stop bitching when clearly you have no idea where im coming from.