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Marillac made a really good point and going with that point, if you're gonna have a "cool" coach he should be young, more recent and easier for these guys to talk to. Jay would be like a brother to talk to where Jackson seems like he would be more of a father figure and if Lavin is doing his job correctly, that will be his role.

So Jay may be better suited for this role despite not making a name for himself in the NBA like Jackson did. I'm sure these players are aware that he had a terrible motorcylce accident and that's what prevented him from being a star player in the NBA like he was at every other level.

Mark Jackson has much more experience not coaching than Jay Williams does.

Amazing thing is that Jay Williams is from Plainfield, NJ and there are TWO top 50 PG's from Plainfield, NJ in the 2011 class. LOL

How the f do you turn down J-Will when he is from your TOWN, is basically the same size, and could mentor you on how to make it to win a championshp and make the league. 

Add to that Lavin putting two PG's in the NBA as a head coach and two more as an assistant. 

Figure in that Myles Mack plays with STJ recruit Ron Roberts.  Add the great relationship Grasso was with St. Peter's and just about every school in the area. Wow.

 didnt jay williams run the twitter for duke this season? i remember seeing that somewhere..

As far as I know, Jay still plays in alot of local NJ gyms and still has plenty of connections in the area.

Sorry, but Mark Jackson is extremely far removed from what would be expected out of a lower assistant--and wouldn't even take the job from what's been said anyways.

He does. Believe me, Sandy Pyonin put Kyrie Irving, for example, into contact with his ex-player, Jay (and Al Harrington). KI definitely knew and respected Jay as the two-time All-American.

Kyrie said it was a shame that most of his peers had no idea about his godfather's Rod Strickland's playing career. Strickland is at least in the ballpark as far as age and career, but Mark would have more name recognition from his sidekick work with Van Gundy. In the end, I think it's a moot issue.

Amazing thing is that Jay Williams is from Plainfield, NJ and there are TWO top 50 PG's from Plainfield, NJ in the 2011 class. LOL

How the f do you turn down J-Will when he is from your TOWN, is basically the same size, and could mentor you on how to make it to win a championshp and make the league. 

Add to that Lavin putting two PG's in the NBA as a head coach and two more as an assistant. 

Figure in that Myles Mack plays with STJ recruit Ron Roberts.  Add the great relationship Grasso was with St. Peter's and just about every school in the area. Wow.

Tyrone Johnson is a near lock for Georgetown. Forget him.
Shabazz Napier is a name to watch for.

Figure in that Myles Mack plays with STJ recruit Ron Roberts.  Add the great relationship Grasso was with St. Peter's and just about every school in the area. Wow.

He plays with Myles Davis not Mack.

Quote from: Marillac on March 30, 2010, 11:24:43 PM

Figure in that Myles Mack plays with STJ recruit Ron Roberts.  Add the great relationship Grasso was with St. Peter's and just about every school in the area. Wow.

He plays with Myles Davis not Mack.

My bad.  You are correct.  Myles Mack is a top 150 PG from Paterson Catholic.

Myles Davis is from Plainfiled and ranked #32 by Rivals. He plays at St. Peter's with Roberts like you pointed out.  Tyrone Jonshon is ranked top 50 by Rivals and is also from Plainfield, NJ.  Jay Williams is from Plainfield!

Funny seeing Fran Fraschilla sitting next to
him at MSG tonight.

Certainly was.

I'm not sure what position he could take though. DOB would be way too much work for him I think.

I'm not sure what position he could take though. DOB would be way too much work for him I think.

Consultant.  Not part of the regular staff.  Just a guy that comes in and helps with skill development and x's and o's.  He wouldn't be allowed to recruit anyway. 

Couldn't see him as a regular member of any staff as he'll turn 74 in May.  I'm guessing Coach Lavin just meant that he'd reach out to him every so often with questions, etc.

He specifically said Keady might want to come to NY and stay 6 mos out of the year to consult.  True?  Hyperbole?  Unsure. 

Once again guys posting do not know the landscape of recruiting. How can you say Mo Hicks is not a a no brainer? He is the main man at the Gauchos. The perennial number AAU program in NYS and one of the best in the country. The coach at Rice HS, probably the most successful NYC HS team for the last ten years and one of the tops in the country.
Do you guys no Booker, assistant at arizona. The former head guy at the gauchos. Do you see the players he has brought in to that program from NYC? Parrom, MoMO Jones, Sadiki Johnson and he will probably get Doron Lamb and Angel Nunez and kadeem Jack. 

Sorry my friend , Mo Hicks no brainer. That hire would change the landscape of recruitment for St. John's forever.

alot of people fail to realize that St. John's got a majority of it's recruits from Ernie Louych. The former head of Riverside Hawks. They were the perennial AAU power in the 80's and 90's . After the scandal at the program and its eventual demise, it was never the same for SJU. They never established a NYC AAU pipeline. Now is the opportunity.

True. But if they hire Mo, where's the pipeline?  They have to make friends with Mo Hicks. And then get a recruiter with contacts around NY and NJ. Not that Hicks would be bad, per se; but there are other options in terms of AAU guys, and if you pluck the man who runs the program, will players come to follow him in 4 years' time along with now?

Once again guys posting do not know the landscape of recruiting. How can you say Mo Hicks is not a a no brainer? He is the main man at the Gauchos. The perennial number AAU program in NYS and one of the best in the country. The coach at Rice HS, probably the most successful NYC HS team for the last ten years and one of the tops in the country.
Do you guys no Booker, assistant at arizona. The former head guy at the gauchos. Do you see the players he has brought in to that program from NYC? Parrom, MoMO Jones, Sadiki Johnson and he will probably get Doron Lamb and Angel Nunez and kadeem Jack. 

Sorry my friend , Mo Hicks no brainer. That hire would change the landscape of recruitment for St. John's forever.

Thats why I included him in my poll. I'd love to him.

Well dave clearly you know the true landscape of NYC recruiting in this town.
There are two Big Dogs in this town for AAU. Gary Charles, Mo Hicks simple and plain.
STJ has two of gary's players:Omari and Justin Burrell. And they were going to get no more NY Panther players because of how Norm handled both of those players.

I tell you this as well, you get Mo Hicks the pipe line is set. Right now Booker in Arizona has that pipeline on lock.

Well dave clearly you know the true landscape of NYC recruiting in this town.
There are two Big Dogs in this town for AAU. Gary Charles, Mo Hicks simple and plain.
STJ has two of gary's players:Omari and Justin Burrell. And they were going to get no more NY Panther players because of how Norm handled both of those players.

I tell you this as well, you get Mo Hicks the pipe line is set. Right now Booker in Arizona has that pipeline on lock.

2 questions for you.
1-if we get hicks will that hurt our relatiohsip with charles and the panthers?

2would getting book richirdson to come from arizona be better than taking hicks?
thanks

First of all, Coach Lavin has suggested (smartly I believe) that he'd like a fellow with head coaching experience to help him.  On ESPN he suggested Gene Keady his old boss at Purdue who would be an excellent choice.  I'd suggest someone like Jim O'brien also, who brings a similar wealth of experience that is more familiar with East Coast hoops. Norm Roberts admitted on more than one occassion that he really had to learn the different styles and approaches of teams in the Big East after coming from the Big 10 and Big 12 where teams tended to play similar styles.
St. John's must also look to expand its recruiting reach beyond the 5 burroughs to include North Jersey (west of here) and the immediate counties North of here. Grasso would be a terrific get because he's helped Fordham get established in North Jersey and would do the same for St. John's. Mo Hicks would be a great hire but would not necessarily dry up the pipeline for "Book" (sorry not Booker) Richardson.  Arizona like it or not is a great place to go to school. Lav is right not to rush. He'll figure it out