2010 Tryouts__ The new starting five....HMMM!

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Re: 2010 Tryouts__ The new starting five....HMMM!
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2010, 08:13:06 PM »
Lavin's UCLA teams played very fast (and loose).  I would expect to see Boothe at the point, but we'd have to see what his priorities are.

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Re: 2010 Tryouts__ The new starting five....HMMM!
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2010, 08:55:27 PM »
im sorry man theres no way i can agree with you. I dont want to sound like an ass but have you ever played basketball at a high level? Omari is a nice player but he is not even close to being a point guard. He can be an off point guard but he doesnt have the ball handling skills, especially under pressure to be a point. He tends to get anxious when under pressure which is the worst thing to do as a point guard. That usualy turns into turnovers. He cant run the "ship." He is just fine playing the 2 or 3. The point is for the maliks

Why would you ask anyone here if they played bball at a high level? What does that have to do with understanding the game?

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Re: 2010 Tryouts__ The new starting five....HMMM!
« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2010, 09:03:17 PM »
im sorry man theres no way i can agree with you. I dont want to sound like an ass but have you ever played basketball at a high level? Omari is a nice player but he is not even close to being a point guard. He can be an off point guard but he doesnt have the ball handling skills, especially under pressure to be a point. He tends to get anxious when under pressure which is the worst thing to do as a point guard. That usualy turns into turnovers. He cant run the "ship." He is just fine playing the 2 or 3. The point is for the maliks

Why would you ask anyone here if they played bball at a high level? What does that have to do with understanding the game?

i know where he is coming from. He didn't mean it in a direct way but when you play the point at a high level, you know the qualifications of a point guard. And when you watch certain players you get more of a feel if they have the qualifications to play at that position maybe than somebody else. He can answer it for himself but that's what i got out of it
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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2010, 09:17:54 PM »
Boothe
Hardy
Kennedy
Burrell
Coker

Bingo.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Omari at the two, though.  He's probably not a pure SG, but Hardy's defense is suspect and Omari does enough in other areas. 

I'm pretty sure Coker gets the starting nod.  The only real question will be at SG.  Evans is meant for the bench.  The great thing is that Lavin will almost certainly limit his opportunities to handle the basketball.

Re: 2010 Tryouts__ The new starting five....HMMM!
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2010, 09:38:18 PM »
Boothe actually played well down the stretch this year. He needs to stay healthy. He is our PG

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Re: 2010 Tryouts__ The new starting five....HMMM!
« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2010, 09:38:57 PM »
im sorry man theres no way i can agree with you. I dont want to sound like an ass but have you ever played basketball at a high level? Omari is a nice player but he is not even close to being a point guard. He can be an off point guard but he doesnt have the ball handling skills, especially under pressure to be a point. He tends to get anxious when under pressure which is the worst thing to do as a point guard. That usualy turns into turnovers. He cant run the "ship." He is just fine playing the 2 or 3. The point is for the maliks

Why would you ask anyone here if they played bball at a high level? What does that have to do with understanding the game?
i bet u he will play the point this year
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Re: 2010 Tryouts__ The new starting five....HMMM!
« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2010, 09:54:40 PM »
im sorry man theres no way i can agree with you. I dont want to sound like an ass but have you ever played basketball at a high level? Omari is a nice player but he is not even close to being a point guard. He can be an off point guard but he doesnt have the ball handling skills, especially under pressure to be a point. He tends to get anxious when under pressure which is the worst thing to do as a point guard. That usualy turns into turnovers. He cant run the "ship." He is just fine playing the 2 or 3. The point is for the maliks

Why would you ask anyone here if they played bball at a high level? What does that have to do with understanding the game?
i bet u he will play the point this year

dont get me wrong, im all for boothe never touching the ball, ever...but, why are u so sure

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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2010, 10:10:58 PM »
Boothe will be our starting PG.  That is the most settled thing we have going into next year.  Evans showed he needs to be coming off the bench.  JB showed why he needs to start.  DJ is the backbone of the team.  Coker should progress more in two months under Lavin and a real staff than he did in three years with Norm and Q.

I'd really like to see us add a really nice pg.  You'd have to think that Stith is gone if we can add a top 150 PG.

Re: 2010 Tryouts__ The new starting five....HMMM!
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2010, 10:19:07 PM »
Boothe/Omari
Quincy/Hardy
DJ
Burrell
Coker

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Re: 2010 Tryouts__ The new starting five....HMMM!
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2010, 10:20:15 PM »
quincy over horne?  :o

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« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2010, 10:29:23 PM »
quincy over horne?  :o
Yes sir...IMO he has alot of talent and really improved this year(from what ive heard and seen in practice) and hes more atletic. Q's gonna be huge for us in 2 years when hes the man. Hopefully he gets a shot to play next year but prob wont cause Paris is a senior, but hey its my starting 5 so hes in

Re: 2010 Tryouts__ The new starting five....HMMM!
« Reply #31 on: March 30, 2010, 10:30:03 PM »
I'm just really excited to see how Lavin and staff evaluate the team and how they distribute the minutes.  I really wouldn't be surprised to see Q Rob beat out Boothe & Stith for the PG position. 

I also understand the argument that Hardy is electric off the bench...but if he's one of the best 5....I think Lavin starts him.

My early projected starting 5 is

PG. Q Rob
SG. Hardy
SF. Kennedy
PF. Burrell
C. Evans

Boothe, Horne, Lawrence, Brownlee and R Roberts (if he comes will be the main subs) with Stith, Coker and R Thomas filling in when needed!!

Re: 2010 Tryouts__ The new starting five....HMMM!
« Reply #32 on: March 30, 2010, 11:11:31 PM »
Here is my tryout list:

PG: Boothe, Q. Roberts, O. Lawerance, M. Stith,
SG: Hardy, Horne, Q. Roberts, D. Kennedy, O. Lawerance, D. Lamb?
SF: D. Kennedy, Q. Roberts, P. Horne, O. Lawerance, R. Roberts, J. Brownlee
PF: J. Burrell, S. Evans, J. Brownlee, R. Roberts, R. Thomas
C:  D. Coker, J. Burrell, S. Evans, R. Thomas

Re: 2010 Tryouts__ The new starting five....HMMM!
« Reply #33 on: March 30, 2010, 11:26:59 PM »
I don't mean to get a little off topic but who is our best player? Whoever it is, is he head and shoulders better or is it an opinion thing? Just curious.

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« Reply #34 on: March 30, 2010, 11:36:34 PM »
I don't mean to get a little off topic but who is our best player? Whoever it is, is he head and shoulders better or is it an opinion thing? Just curious.

DJ Kennedy is our best, hands down.  He's a 6'6" wing player with a nice jump shot and is very good in the lane.  He leads us in basically every category.  Justin Burrell was the best recruit we've gotten and while he has shown flashes of brilliance, his progress has stagnated since he peaked freshman year.

Re: 2010 Tryouts__ The new starting five....HMMM!
« Reply #35 on: March 30, 2010, 11:38:14 PM »
I don't mean to get a little off topic but who is our best player? Whoever it is, is he head and shoulders better or is it an opinion thing? Just curious.

DJ Kennedy is our best, hands down.  He's a 6'6" wing player with a nice jump shot and is very good in the lane.  He leads us in basically every category.  Justin Burrell was the best recruit we've gotten and while he has shown flashes of brilliance, his progress has stagnated since he peaked freshman year.

What he said!!!!

Re: 2010 Tryouts__ The new starting five....HMMM!
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2010, 12:31:31 AM »
I don't mean to get a little off topic but who is our best player? Whoever it is, is he head and shoulders better or is it an opinion thing? Just curious.

DJ Kennedy is our best, hands down.  He's a 6'6" wing player with a nice jump shot and is very good in the lane.  He leads us in basically every category.  Justin Burrell was the best recruit we've gotten and while he has shown flashes of brilliance, his progress has stagnated since he peaked freshman year.

Awesome. Thank you very much.

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« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2010, 12:57:08 AM »
I truly think we need a Hardy or Brownlee in the lineup because of their ability to score in bunches, even with their defensive shortcomings.

What killed us this year is having 4 guys in the lineup who can't score consistently. That can't fly in the Big East, no matter how good their intangibles or defense is.

Would love to see Burrell in the lineup as well. Would love to see if our new staff can turn him and Coker around in the right direction, and at least have them playing at an improved level/starting by conference play.

We're really deep, and I really would like to see different lineups depending our opponent in the early non-conference schedule and see who meshes with who.

My personal opinion:
PG - Boothe
SG - Hardy
SF - Kennedy
PF - Burrell
C - Coker

Gives us the best chance to win against the other Big East teams. We'd have two consistent scorers on the wing, an explosive 4 and a traditional 5. Boothe is just starting PG by default, although he did show some glimpses in the BE tourney.

Our bench would be solid with high energy guys like Brownlee & Evans. Horne could come in and play a high number of minutes spelling DJ and Hardy, or giving us good defense.

I haven't seen enough of Q Rob, and don't know where he truly stands after having a year off, but I'd assume he could our 2nd or 3rd guard off the bench, along with Omari and Paris. Would be great if he can backup the point instead of Stith.

Re: 2010 Tryouts__ The new starting five....HMMM!
« Reply #38 on: March 31, 2010, 01:27:25 AM »
yea i would like to have hardy and brownlee in the starting lineup but in my opinion you cant. The reason for their success is because of the roles they play. Good teams have sparks off the bench and those two are perfect for that. Dwight is a dynamic shooter off the bench and brownlee always brings energy on the boards with rebounds and put backs....

but who cares with who starts.."its about how you finish" How many times this year did brownlee and dwight finish the game this year? I feel like it was often.

Re: 2010 Tryouts__ The new starting five....HMMM!
« Reply #39 on: March 31, 2010, 02:23:36 AM »
PG-Horne
SG-Hardy
SF-DJ
PF-Burrell
C-Evans

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