chris gaston

Quote from: Dave on April 01, 2010, 12:40:03 PM

He can transfer is he wants. He's already in school.

Either way we don't have a scholarship to offer so I see this as a moot point anyways.

Wrong Dave.  He would need a release. 

The funny thing--that is messed up--is the school can cancel after any season, but the kid needs to be released.  It doesn't seem fair.

Think back to Jio last year.  He was a player on Fordham AND his coach got canned.  They still phucked him with conditions for his release.  Remember Kojo Mensah and Siena?  That was a battle.  They finally let him transfer to Duquesne.

If he doesn't want to sit out a year he'd have to be granted a release but he is free to leave and sit out a year before playing again.

Quote from: Marillac on April 01, 2010, 12:44:18 PM

Quote from: Dave on April 01, 2010, 12:40:03 PM

He can transfer is he wants. He's already in school.

Either way we don't have a scholarship to offer so I see this as a moot point anyways.

Wrong Dave.  He would need a release. 

The funny thing--that is messed up--is the school can cancel after any season, but the kid needs to be released.  It doesn't seem fair.

Think back to Jio last year.  He was a player on Fordham AND his coach got canned.  They still phucked him with conditions for his release.  Remember Kojo Mensah and Siena?  That was a battle.  They finally let him transfer to Duquesne.

If he doesn't want to sit out a year he'd have to be granted a release but he is free to leave and sit out a year before playing again.

I thought you had to sit out a year for any transfer regardless like Phil Wait going from here to Monmouth and Taylor King going from Duke to Villanova.  The only way you don't have to sit out a year is if you get a hardship waiver like Elliot Williams going from Duke to Memphis to be with his ailing mother.

Quote from: Dave on April 01, 2010, 12:40:03 PM

He can transfer is he wants. He's already in school.

Either way we don't have a scholarship to offer so I see this as a moot point anyways.

He could go to a 2 yr school for 1 yr (very inexpensive) or just take a year off from school ?

It's more complicated than that. If he went from a 4 yr to 2 yr back to 4 yr than he'd have to earn enough credits to graduate from his 2 yr school. The amount of credits that would take is damn near impossible to achieve in 1 yr.

There is also more rules that involve financial aid and other grants too. It's complicated.

Quote from: Dave on April 01, 2010, 12:53:50 PM

Quote from: Marillac on April 01, 2010, 12:44:18 PM

Quote from: Dave on April 01, 2010, 12:40:03 PM

He can transfer is he wants. He's already in school.

Either way we don't have a scholarship to offer so I see this as a moot point anyways.

Wrong Dave.  He would need a release. 

The funny thing--that is messed up--is the school can cancel after any season, but the kid needs to be released.  It doesn't seem fair.

Think back to Jio last year.  He was a player on Fordham AND his coach got canned.  They still phucked him with conditions for his release.  Remember Kojo Mensah and Siena?  That was a battle.  They finally let him transfer to Duquesne.

If he doesn't want to sit out a year he'd have to be granted a release but he is free to leave and sit out a year before playing again.

I thought you had to sit out a year for any transfer regardless like Phil Wait going from here to Monmouth and Taylor King going from Duke to Villanova.  The only way you don't have to sit out a year is if you get a hardship waiver like Elliot Williams going from Duke to Memphis to be with his ailing mother.

From the rule book....

The general rule for all student-athletes transferring from one four-year institution to another four-year institution is that they must spend one academic year in residence at the school to which they transfer before they may be eligible for competition.  However, you may be eligible immediately upon transfer if you meet one of several transfer exceptions.  [Note:  During a student-athlete's initial year of collegiate enrollment, he or she only may use a transfer exception if they have been certified by the NCAA Eligibility Center as a qualifier.]

The most common transfer exception is the One-Time Transfer Exception.  To be eligible to use this exception:  (a) a student-athlete must be transferring to another four-year institution to participate in a sport other than Division I baseball, Division I basketball, Division I men's ice hockey and Division I bowl subdivision football (A participant in championship subdivision football at the institution to which the student is transferring may use this exception only if the participant transferred to the certifying institution from an institution that sponsors bowl subdivision football and has two or more seasons of competition remaining in football or the participant transfers from a football championship subdivision institution that offers athletically related financial aid in football to a football championship subdivision institution that does not offer athletically related financial aid in football);  (b) the student-athlete's first transfer from one four-year college to another four-year college;  (c) the student-athlete must have been eligible academically had he or she remained at their previous institution; and (d) the student-athlete must obtain a written release from the current institution stating that they have no objection to the student-athlete's use of the exception.

Quote from: STJ11Redmen on April 01, 2010, 12:57:26 PM

Quote from: Dave on April 01, 2010, 12:53:50 PM

Quote from: Marillac on April 01, 2010, 12:44:18 PM

Quote from: Dave on April 01, 2010, 12:40:03 PM

He can transfer is he wants. He's already in school.

Either way we don't have a scholarship to offer so I see this as a moot point anyways.

Wrong Dave.  He would need a release. 

The funny thing--that is messed up--is the school can cancel after any season, but the kid needs to be released.  It doesn't seem fair.

Think back to Jio last year.  He was a player on Fordham AND his coach got canned.  They still phucked him with conditions for his release.  Remember Kojo Mensah and Siena?  That was a battle.  They finally let him transfer to Duquesne.

If he doesn't want to sit out a year he'd have to be granted a release but he is free to leave and sit out a year before playing again.

I thought you had to sit out a year for any transfer regardless like Phil Wait going from here to Monmouth and Taylor King going from Duke to Villanova.  The only way you don't have to sit out a year is if you get a hardship waiver like Elliot Williams going from Duke to Memphis to be with his ailing mother.

From the rule book....

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The general rule for all student-athletes transferring from one four-year institution to another four-year institution is that they must spend one academic year in residence at the school to which they transfer before they may be eligible for competition.  However, you may be eligible immediately upon transfer if you meet one of several transfer exceptions.  [Note:  During a student-athlete's initial year of collegiate enrollment, he or she only may use a transfer exception if they have been certified by the NCAA Eligibility Center as a qualifier.]

The most common transfer exception is the One-Time Transfer Exception.  To be eligible to use this exception:  (a) a student-athlete must be transferring to another four-year institution to participate in a sport other than Division I baseball, Division I basketball, Division I men's ice hockey and Division I bowl subdivision football (A participant in championship subdivision football at the institution to which the student is transferring may use this exception only if the participant transferred to the certifying institution from an institution that sponsors bowl subdivision football and has two or more seasons of competition remaining in football or the participant transfers from a football championship subdivision institution that offers athletically related financial aid in football to a football championship subdivision institution that does not offer athletically related financial aid in football);  (b) the student-athlete's first transfer from one four-year college to another four-year college;  (c) the student-athlete must have been eligible academically had he or she remained at their previous institution; and (d) the student-athlete must obtain a written release from the current institution stating that they have no objection to the student-athlete's use of the exception.

So the only way that Gaston could transfer here and not sit out a year is if he switched sports to something like golf or fencing.  Unless you are referring to a rule different than the one you posted.

after the way we treated his old man this year im not sure if he would wanna come to st johns lol

he might have had all of fordham's points, but if i have to sit near his dad for one game it's not worth it. the guy is a clown, i've met 5 year olds more mature.
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his dad stood up in the middle of the game and started taunting us, so we called him Father Time

Quote from: Dave on April 01, 2010, 01:03:10 PM

Quote from: STJ11Redmen on April 01, 2010, 12:57:26 PM

Quote from: Dave on April 01, 2010, 12:53:50 PM

Quote from: Marillac on April 01, 2010, 12:44:18 PM

Quote from: Dave on April 01, 2010, 12:40:03 PM

He can transfer is he wants. He's already in school.

Either way we don't have a scholarship to offer so I see this as a moot point anyways.

Wrong Dave.  He would need a release. 

The funny thing--that is messed up--is the school can cancel after any season, but the kid needs to be released.  It doesn't seem fair.

Think back to Jio last year.  He was a player on Fordham AND his coach got canned.  They still phucked him with conditions for his release.  Remember Kojo Mensah and Siena?  That was a battle.  They finally let him transfer to Duquesne.

If he doesn't want to sit out a year he'd have to be granted a release but he is free to leave and sit out a year before playing again.

I thought you had to sit out a year for any transfer regardless like Phil Wait going from here to Monmouth and Taylor King going from Duke to Villanova.  The only way you don't have to sit out a year is if you get a hardship waiver like Elliot Williams going from Duke to Memphis to be with his ailing mother.

From the rule book....

Quote

The general rule for all student-athletes transferring from one four-year institution to another four-year institution is that they must spend one academic year in residence at the school to which they transfer before they may be eligible for competition.  However, you may be eligible immediately upon transfer if you meet one of several transfer exceptions.  [Note:  During a student-athlete's initial year of collegiate enrollment, he or she only may use a transfer exception if they have been certified by the NCAA Eligibility Center as a qualifier.]

The most common transfer exception is the One-Time Transfer Exception.  To be eligible to use this exception:  (a) a student-athlete must be transferring to another four-year institution to participate in a sport other than Division I baseball, Division I basketball, Division I men's ice hockey and Division I bowl subdivision football (A participant in championship subdivision football at the institution to which the student is transferring may use this exception only if the participant transferred to the certifying institution from an institution that sponsors bowl subdivision football and has two or more seasons of competition remaining in football or the participant transfers from a football championship subdivision institution that offers athletically related financial aid in football to a football championship subdivision institution that does not offer athletically related financial aid in football);  (b) the student-athlete's first transfer from one four-year college to another four-year college;  (c) the student-athlete must have been eligible academically had he or she remained at their previous institution; and (d) the student-athlete must obtain a written release from the current institution stating that they have no objection to the student-athlete's use of the exception.

So the only way that Gaston could transfer here and not sit out a year is if he switched sports to something like golf or fencing.  Unless you are referring to a rule different than the one you posted.

Hence the requirement that he has to sit out a year.

What's the difference then, whether a school grants a release or not ?

if he transfers and has to sit out for a year, does that take up a sponsorship while he waits? yes, right?

He's not coming...the post was a hoax according to the Fordham board.

And yes a transfer would be using a scholarship unless he wanted to pay his own way.

Probably Baldi causing trouble there

Someone should kill this thread.

What's the difference then, whether a school grants a release or not ?

I believe if the school grants him a release he can immediately go to school on scholarship for his one year in residence (the year he sits out) as opposed to paying his own way for that year in residence if he is not granted a release.