Norvel Pelle - C - Price High School - Long Beach, CA - IONA

Well played, Poison.

0404 --- I did not watch Mean Girls of my own volition --- the first time I saw it --- but I'll admit, I thought it was pretty damn hilarious.  I am not embarassed to admit that.

You're pretty thick.

Definitely in the waist and thighs but not upstairs like you my friend.

NealNieves Former St Johns commit Norvel Pelle Recruitment takes another twist bit.ly/yc49Y8 (CP Premium)

If anyone can tell us what the twist is it would be appreciated

0404 --- I did not watch Mean Girls of my own volition --- the first time I saw it --- but I'll admit, I thought it was pretty damn hilarious.  I am not embarassed to admit that.

  Same here, man. Same here. 100%.

NealNieves Former St Johns commit Norvel Pelle Recruitment takes another twist bit.ly/yc49Y8 (CP Premium)

If anyone can tell us what the twist is it would be appreciated

I didn't read it myself, but I found another link to it that summarized what he said...

According to Neal Nieves' recruiting mailbag today, SDSU and UNLV are no longer pursuing Pelle. Looks like its LSU, Iowa St, UConn, Washington, UTEP, and New Mexico chasing him now.
And he may not qualify anyway.  (Surprise surprise)

Norvel is a good natured kid who just needs to get his priorities in order. Wish he would have come to St Johns. It would have been good for him to mature as an individual.

So did he graduate high school, but not qualify for athletic participation?

If he actually graduated high school, he should have just went juco instead of wasting a year if he indeed still does not qualify after his postgrad year.

This is sounding like another Nuri situation

So he can be eligible to play at Uconn and Washington but not SJ???

So he can be eligible to play at Uconn and Washington but not SJ???

He can be. It depends on SJ's admissions policies. Unlike UCONN and Wash., SJ is a private school. This can be a reason why this is possible.

Quote from: Poison on March 08, 2012, 08:00:58 PM

So he can be eligible to play at Uconn and Washington but not SJ???

He can be. It depends on SJ's admissions policies. Unlike UCONN and Wash., SJ is a private school. This can be a reason why this is possible.

He was accepted to STJ.  Its not a matter of being accepted.
Its a matter of meeting NCAA requirements.

Quote from: PIB on March 08, 2012, 08:24:35 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 08, 2012, 08:00:58 PM

So he can be eligible to play at Uconn and Washington but not SJ???

He can be. It depends on SJ's admissions policies. Unlike UCONN and Wash., SJ is a private school. This can be a reason why this is possible.

He was accepted to STJ.  Its not a matter of being accepted.
Its a matter of meeting NCAA requirements.

NCAA requirements? Does that matter at UConn?

Quote from: PIB on March 08, 2012, 08:24:35 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 08, 2012, 08:00:58 PM

So he can be eligible to play at Uconn and Washington but not SJ???

He can be. It depends on SJ's admissions policies. Unlike UCONN and Wash., SJ is a private school. This can be a reason why this is possible.

He was accepted to STJ.  Its not a matter of being accepted.
Its a matter of meeting NCAA requirements.

That's right.  The NCAA does not regulate a specific school's admissions nor can they.  Any school can admit anyone or anything they like, doesn't mean the NCAA will allow them eligibility.

And was told there is little chance he qualifies.  Wish him well and move on.

Quote from: Moose on March 08, 2012, 08:25:26 PM

Quote from: PIB on March 08, 2012, 08:24:35 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 08, 2012, 08:00:58 PM

So he can be eligible to play at Uconn and Washington but not SJ???

He can be. It depends on SJ's admissions policies. Unlike UCONN and Wash., SJ is a private school. This can be a reason why this is possible.

He was accepted to STJ.  Its not a matter of being accepted.
Its a matter of meeting NCAA requirements.

NCAA requirements? Does that matter at UConn?

IMO no it doesnt up there.
But yes it does.
Provided he made up the ground he needed to on NCAA levels he would be fine anywhere he wants to go.

Quote from: Marco Baldi on March 08, 2012, 08:31:50 PM

Quote from: Moose on March 08, 2012, 08:25:26 PM

Quote from: PIB on March 08, 2012, 08:24:35 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 08, 2012, 08:00:58 PM

So he can be eligible to play at Uconn and Washington but not SJ???

He can be. It depends on SJ's admissions policies. Unlike UCONN and Wash., SJ is a private school. This can be a reason why this is possible.

He was accepted to STJ.  Its not a matter of being accepted.
Its a matter of meeting NCAA requirements.

NCAA requirements? Does that matter at UConn?

IMO no it doesnt up there.
But yes it does.
Provided he made up the ground he needed to on NCAA levels he would be fine anywhere he wants to go.

Lavin should bring this kid in, hire Ruland as his personal trainer 

Quote from: PIB on March 08, 2012, 08:24:35 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 08, 2012, 08:00:58 PM

So he can be eligible to play at Uconn and Washington but not SJ???

He can be. It depends on SJ's admissions policies. Unlike UCONN and Wash., SJ is a private school. This can be a reason why this is possible.

He was accepted to STJ.  Its not a matter of being accepted.
Its a matter of meeting NCAA requirements.

If he was accepted to SJU, then what was the problem?

I am assuming SJU's admissions requirements are higher than public schools (i.e. UCONN, Wash., etc.).

I'm familiar with sliding scales, core GPA averages, etc., and how that influences one's chances of being accepted into school. But, I am not well versed on the specifics regarding Pelle.

Quote from: Moose on March 08, 2012, 08:25:26 PM

Quote from: PIB on March 08, 2012, 08:24:35 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 08, 2012, 08:00:58 PM

So he can be eligible to play at Uconn and Washington but not SJ???

He can be. It depends on SJ's admissions policies. Unlike UCONN and Wash., SJ is a private school. This can be a reason why this is possible.

He was accepted to STJ.  Its not a matter of being accepted.
Its a matter of meeting NCAA requirements.

If he was accepted to SJU, then what was the problem?

I am assuming SJU's admissions requirements are higher than public schools (i.e. UCONN, Wash., etc.).

I'm familiar with sliding scales, core GPA averages, etc., and how that influences one's chances of being accepted into school. But, I am not well versed on the specifics regarding Pelle.

The problem was he didn't meet NCAA requirements.  He was accepted into STJ.  Someone here mentioned this example.  A 4.0 HS student can be accepted to Harvard but if he didnt take and pass an NCAA required class at a certain level he will not be eligible to play.

Quote from: PIB on March 08, 2012, 08:47:58 PM

Quote from: Moose on March 08, 2012, 08:25:26 PM

Quote from: PIB on March 08, 2012, 08:24:35 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 08, 2012, 08:00:58 PM

So he can be eligible to play at Uconn and Washington but not SJ???

He can be. It depends on SJ's admissions policies. Unlike UCONN and Wash., SJ is a private school. This can be a reason why this is possible.

He was accepted to STJ.  Its not a matter of being accepted.
Its a matter of meeting NCAA requirements.

If he was accepted to SJU, then what was the problem?

I am assuming SJU's admissions requirements are higher than public schools (i.e. UCONN, Wash., etc.).

I'm familiar with sliding scales, core GPA averages, etc., and how that influences one's chances of being accepted into school. But, I am not well versed on the specifics regarding Pelle.

The problem was he didn't meet NCAA requirements.  He was accepted into STJ.  Someone here mentioned this example.  A 4.0 HS student can be accepted to Harvard but if he didnt take and pass an NCAA required class at a certain level he will not be eligible to play.

How the hell did Lance Stephenson get eligible? Supposedly, my shower curtain was smarter

Quote from: Moose on March 08, 2012, 08:25:26 PM

Quote from: PIB on March 08, 2012, 08:24:35 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 08, 2012, 08:00:58 PM

So he can be eligible to play at Uconn and Washington but not SJ???

He can be. It depends on SJ's admissions policies. Unlike UCONN and Wash., SJ is a private school. This can be a reason why this is possible.

He was accepted to STJ.  Its not a matter of being accepted.
Its a matter of meeting NCAA requirements.

If he was accepted to SJU, then what was the problem?

I am assuming SJU's admissions requirements are higher than public schools (i.e. UCONN, Wash., etc.).

I'm familiar with sliding scales, core GPA averages, etc., and how that influences one's chances of being accepted into school. But, I am not well versed on the specifics regarding Pelle.

For the record neither JaKarr nor Norvel ever enrolled at SJU so whether they were admitted is a moot point.  Think about it this way, what is to stop St. John's from admitting a monkey?  Absolutely nothing. 

The NCAA does not have anything to do with a school's admissions policy.  If for example Norvel enrolled at SJU and then was declared ineligible to play he could still theoretically attend SJU and go to class and get his degree. The NCAA cannot stop that.  The problem of course is that these kids are going to these schools for 1 major reason, and that is to play high major sports.  Thus ultimately when the NCAA fails to clear them it is the equivalent of the school not clearing him because obviously the only real reason that school wants him is because he can play a sport.

Quote from: PIB on March 08, 2012, 08:47:58 PM

Quote from: Moose on March 08, 2012, 08:25:26 PM

Quote from: PIB on March 08, 2012, 08:24:35 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 08, 2012, 08:00:58 PM

So he can be eligible to play at Uconn and Washington but not SJ???

He can be. It depends on SJ's admissions policies. Unlike UCONN and Wash., SJ is a private school. This can be a reason why this is possible.

He was accepted to STJ.  Its not a matter of being accepted.
Its a matter of meeting NCAA requirements.

If he was accepted to SJU, then what was the problem?

I am assuming SJU's admissions requirements are higher than public schools (i.e. UCONN, Wash., etc.).

I'm familiar with sliding scales, core GPA averages, etc., and how that influences one's chances of being accepted into school. But, I am not well versed on the specifics regarding Pelle.

For the record neither JaKarr nor Norvel ever enrolled at SJU so whether they were admitted is a moot point.  Think about it this way, what is to stop St. John's from admitting a monkey?  Absolutely nothing. 

The NCAA does not have anything to do with a school's admissions policy.  If for example Norvel enrolled at SJU and then was declared ineligible to play he could still theoretically attend SJU and go to class and get his degree. The NCAA cannot stop that.  The problem of course is that these kids are going to these schools for 1 major reason, and that is to play high major sports.  Thus ultimately when the NCAA fails to clear them it is the equivalent of the school not clearing him because obviously the only real reason that school wants him is because he can play a sport.

Once enrolled in college is there a way for these players to become NCAA eligible?   I mean theoretically can they finish their unmet requirements at the college level rather than go back to prep?   
Because I feel like I've heard of many other school's freshmen being ineligible, but the kid still enrolls there and becomes eligible in the spring or the next year.    Is that an option for players like Norvel, Jakarr etc