Amir Garrett - SF - Findlay Prep - Las Vegas, NV - ST. JOHN'S

Quote from: stevep502 on August 18, 2011, 12:20:51 PM

Our Cancun trip Labor Day weekend 3 years ago (Sept 2008) was cancelled

If I remember 10 practices with coaches were allowed- BUT FROSH were not allowed to practice till classes started.
One international trip every 4 years means they can go in 2012

So the Duke freshman can't play in China?

He never said they couldn't play, just that they couldn't practice. Rivers is good enough to just go out there and play without practice.

Quote from: Logen on August 18, 2011, 09:05:02 AM

Quote from: crgreen on August 17, 2011, 04:25:12 PM

Quote from: STJ11Redmen on August 17, 2011, 03:50:43 PM

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Does that make any sense to anyone?    If his schooling is being paid for by the Reds, why in the world would he still count towards the 13 scholies?   Or does it mean the Reds are simply paying everything not covered by the scholie?  That hardly seems like its even writing into a contract with the supposed value of Amirs....

Actually, it makes perfect sense as it prevents schools / boosters from using not so organized pro teams (independent / semi-pro leagues) to circumvent the # of scholarship rules.

Independent and semi pro teams?  They can barely make their own payroll as is.

Quote from: Moose on August 18, 2011, 09:21:39 AM

Quote from: Logen on August 18, 2011, 09:05:02 AM

Quote from: crgreen on August 17, 2011, 04:25:12 PM

Quote from: STJ11Redmen on August 17, 2011, 03:50:43 PM

[tweet]http://twitter.com/diamond83/status/103915670651146240[/tweet]

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Does that make any sense to anyone?    If his schooling is being paid for by the Reds, why in the world would he still count towards the 13 scholies?   Or does it mean the Reds are simply paying everything not covered by the scholie?  That hardly seems like its even writing into a contract with the supposed value of Amirs....

Actually, it makes perfect sense as it prevents schools / boosters from using not so organized pro teams (independent / semi-pro leagues) to circumvent the # of scholarship rules.

Independent and semi pro teams?  They can barely make their own payroll as is.

And no booster with dough could associate himself with such a team in order to stockpile talent at their chosen school? Far fetched to you maybe, but at one time so was giving mortgages to people who couldn't afford them. Or the creation of faux high schools for the purpose of creating powerhouse basketball teams. Anyway, as I understand it that is the reason for the rule, take it for what it's worth.

our freshmen did play in canada (omari and stith)

Moose--I believe the NCAA has a rule regarding "benefits" available to scholarship athletes.  I remember there was an article surrounding Phil Missere being given an athletic scholarship in senior year even though he was already on scholarship as his father was a professor.  The story said that as a walk on he was not entitled to certain benefits that were no available to all non athletic scholarship students.  it specifically mentioned he was not allowed a pre game meal for free with the team among other things as this meal is not available to all students.

The NCAA rule states that any recruited student athlete counts as being on scholarship for the 13 scholarship limit whether they receive a scholarship or not. Once the staff spends money to recruit a player to a school they're a scholarship player forever and for all time. That's technically how the rule is written.

The NCAA rule states that any recruited student athlete counts as being on scholarship for the 13 scholarship limit whether they receive a scholarship or not. Once the staff spends money to recruit a player to a school they're a scholarship player forever and for all time. That's technically how the rule is written.

How exactly is Rick Pitino getting guys like Kuric and others to "walk on" now?

Quote from: hoyahooligan on August 25, 2011, 09:54:11 AM

The NCAA rule states that any recruited student athlete counts as being on scholarship for the 13 scholarship limit whether they receive a scholarship or not. Once the staff spends money to recruit a player to a school they're a scholarship player forever and for all time. That's technically how the rule is written.

I thought scholarships were actually year-to-year, and it was practically a cardinal rule for some coaches to honor it for four years.  Not mandatory.  Maybe, in this scenario since he was offered and signed a scholarship, then was drafted professionally, this particular rule applies.  Who knows!?! 

By the way, how come you didn't acknowledge Meyer's article and Zags' tweet, but posted Telep's arbitrary response (probably, was you who asked him the question), hoyahooligan?   

St. John’s Sampson Decommits; Garrett to Bridgton

By Adam Zagoria on September 20, 2011, 10:09PM

There is a lot of movement with St. John’s once heralded recruiting class.

JaKarr Sampson, a 6-foot-8 forward, has decommitted and will re-open his recruitment.

“Yes,” said Brewster (N.H.) Academy coach Jason Smith.

Sampson was one of three St. John’s signees declared academically ineligible by the NCAA. He then opted to return to Brewster for a postgraduate year.

Meantime, Amir Garrett, another member of that trio, is now at Bridgton (Maine) Academy.

Garrett joins a team that features 2012 St. John’s commit Darrick Wood and former Hofstra commit Malik Nichols.

Bridgton coach Whit Lesure said the plan was to try to get Garrett eligible for the second semester in December.

“I would say that that’s the plan,” he told SNY.tv. ‘I know our college counselor was with him today and visited with me quickly.

“To be honest, that’s more St. John’s business than mine. That’s Amir’s business.”

Norvel Pelle, a 6-10 center, is the third member of the trio, and his status remains in limbo.