There is a big difference between Amir playing the 4 in high school and playing the 4 in the BE.
Uh, there's a big difference between ANY player playing ANY position in high school and playing it in the Big East.
This concept kind of mutated didn't it? The original thought was Amir could get minutes at the 4 - that's a lot different from someone saying Amir WILL BE a 4 in the Big East. It's going to be all about the matchups.
Reread my post=I did say PLAYING i did not say WILL BE.
Celt - was commenting on the thread, not you in particular. MCNPA had a statemeent "I disagree that Amir is anything but a wing at the college level. He is in no way a 4. " and there were a couple of others going back a page or two. Just seemed we'd gone from speculating he might see minutes at the four to arguing if he WAS a four.
This is semantics. If people are talking about him getting minutes at the 4, it is assumed as a PF. If somebody says to me that at Vllanova one of their guards might see minutes at the 3 in a 3-guard set, well they're not really getting minutes at the 3. At that point they're playing a 3-guard set for matchup purposes. For al intents and purposes, saying he will "see time at the 4" is really not accurate. He might see time at the 3 in a 3-wing set. He won't see time at the 4 in the role of a typical power forward nor is he a 4 so it answers the question both ways.
Sorry - happen to think semantics are important
But I disagree that's what's being discussed here. I believe there are 5 positions on the court - some call it 1-5, others PG/SG/SF/PF/C. Each of those 5 has set responsibilities on offense and defense when they're on the court. Oh look, Steve Lavin has Baron Davis, and Earl Watson, and Moose Bailey on the Bench. Ben Howland has Jordan Farmar and Darren Collison and Ced Bozeman on the bench. Ones. PGS. every one of them. You can certainly label them all as such in the team photo, or call them that during pre game introductions. But, as often happened with each of those groups of 3, when all three were on the court TOGETHER, they were no longer all "ones" - they were ones and twos and threes - and in the case of the 6'5 205 lb Ced Bozeman - FOURs (when Howland went small with Farmar, Collison, Afflalo, Ced and Mbah a Moute). What they are sitting on the bench is immaterial. What they're playing during the game is a 1 or a 2 or a 3 or a 4 or a 5. Whether you think a guy is a "traditional" fit for the position doesn't matter. If he's playing the offensive or defensive responsibility for the 1 or the 2 or the 3 or the 4 or the 5 position, that's what he's playing. It's not semantics. It just what it IS.
I personally find Amir very similar physically to a former UCLA player named Dijon Thompson. A 2 and a 3 in college and NBA. Except of course that year he was the 1st team all Pac 10 Power Forward as a 6'7 195 lb senior. And as he led UCLA back to the NCAA tourney after back to back 10 and 11 win seasons, he wasn't doing it semantically...