Amir Garrett - SF - Findlay Prep - Las Vegas, NV - ST. JOHN'S

Quote from: MCNPA on August 15, 2011, 11:40:32 PM

Amir signed with the Cincinnatti Reds tonight. He will play for the Reds and bball at SJU.

Probably assign him to one of the rookie leagues which play short season; i.e. Brooklyn Cyclones type league.  would not expect him to pitch this year as too little time left and the danger of over extending and hurting the left arm.  Short season 2012 would be great with school finishing early May; he could report for "spring training" until season starts in late June.  It would give him a chance to develop arm strength without over extending.  season would end by Labor day plus a week for playoffs.  He would miss first two weeks of school.  The Reds could do the same for 2013.  After the 2013/14 season, Amir and the Reds could make an evaluated decision as to which sport offers the best opportunity for professional success.  If it is Baseball, he could "drop out" after the basketball season and start his full time commitment to baseball.

I am selfish as I would have liked to see him as a 2 sport star at St. John's.

My guess is he plays rookie and then A short season for two years.  The games start in June and end in August.  Maybe then he'll be ready to jump to Dayton for the A ballclub (very nice stadium) and perhaps even A advanced or AA after that.  They'll probably have a coach come around regularly to work with him at the St. John's ballpark and I bet he gets trained extensively in April. 

I don't see any reason to rush him along. He's raw. 

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2. Monroe - Woodbury High School football
3. Investing in all markets
4. Horse Racing - especially in the State of Kentucky
5. All levels of academic study
6. Every sport in which St. John's fields a team
7. Banging WNBA players
8 and now professional baseball player development.

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There are one million and one reasons why St. John's signee Amir Garrett should have woken up today with a big smile on his face.

An ESPNU top-100 recruits in the 2011 class, Garrett agreed to terms last night on a contract with the Cincinnati Reds that includes a $1 million signing bonus over five years, according to Baseball America.

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/34117/reds-give-amir-garrett-a-1-million-bonus

Ladies & gentlemen, we have a new topic to add to Marillac's ever growing list of things he is an expert on:

1. All aspects of college basketball - from program management to recruiting to in game strategy and off season conditioning
2. Monroe - Woodbury High School football
3. Investing in all markets
4. Horse Racing - especially in the State of Kentucky
5. All levels of academic study
6. Every sport in which St. John's fields a team
7. Banging WNBA players
8 and now professional baseball player development.

This poster is anxiously awaiting the next topic on which he will share his extensive knowledge.!!

Investments all markets - what does he think about MITK I hold a large position?

Ladies & gentlemen, we have a new topic to add to Marillac's ever growing list of things he is an expert on:

1. All aspects of college basketball - from program management to recruiting to in game strategy and off season conditioning
2. Monroe - Woodbury High School football
3. Investing in all markets
4. Horse Racing - especially in the State of Kentucky
5. All levels of academic study
6. Every sport in which St. John's fields a team
7. Banging WNBA players
8 and now professional baseball player development.

This poster is anxiously awaiting the next topic on which he will share his extensive knowledge.!!

LOL Don't know anything about baseball development, but they tend to keep pitchers down for a while from what I noticed. Then again, I'm a Mets fan and they don't exactly have the best farm system.  Still waiting on FMart to come through and save the franchise.

BTW Cincy fans are more excited about Garrett than their first rounder from what I've read on the fansite.

05 is right in that the NCAA Eligibility Center has not cleared those 4.

The better question is how confident does the staff feel about them being cleared.

Told they are confident. SJU has excellent compliance staff.

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110816&content_id=23270976&vkey=news_cin&c_id=cin

lso signed by the Reds was their 22nd-round Draft pick, left-handed pitcher Amir Garrett -- giving him a $1 million bonus.

The signing originally seemed somewhat of a long shot since Garrett was already headed to St. John's University on a basketball scholarship as a highly coveted hoops prospect. His contract allows him to play both sports.

"We're pretty excited because he's an All-American basketball player who is going to a great school at St. John's," Buckley said. "He's a talented athlete, but he hasn't put the time into baseball like Robert has. But we think he can also be an outstanding pitcher."

AdamZagoria All incoming #stjbb players are expected to qualify academically, a source close to the program told SNY.tv

Hopefully he's right on this one.

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AdamZagoria All incoming #stjbb players are expected to qualify academically, a source close to the program told SNY.tv

Hopefully he's right on this one.

He just makes his articles based off our posts lol.

Quote from: kingofk1ngs on August 16, 2011, 06:30:33 PM

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AdamZagoria All incoming #stjbb players are expected to qualify academically, a source close to the program told SNY.tv

Hopefully he's right on this one.

He just makes his articles based off our posts lol.

He actually quotes Fratto as his source.

http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/08/16/st-johns-expecting-all-newcomers-to-be-eligible/#more-56174
Key word Mark Fratto uses is "HOPEFUL". Lets just keep our fingers crossed.

Following the 2011–12 season – which, provided St. John's makes it to the postseason, will not end until March – Garrett will probably be assigned to either extended spring training or short season Class A (since spring training begins in the middle of conference play). Per Reds spokesman Larry Herms, if the Reds choose the extended spring training route, he'll likely end up in Goodyear, Arizona, where the ball club has a warm-climate facility, and he would compete against rehabbing players and other rookies.

http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2011/08/garrett-still-intends-to-play-for-st-john-s.html

Following the 2011–12 season – which, provided St. John's makes it to the postseason, will not end until March – Garrett will probably be assigned to either extended spring training or short season Class A (since spring training begins in the middle of conference play). Per Reds spokesman Larry Herms, if the Reds choose the extended spring training route, he'll likely end up in Goodyear, Arizona, where the ball club has a warm-climate facility, and he would compete against rehabbing players and other rookies.

http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2011/08/garrett-still-intends-to-play-for-st-john-s.html

Um what about classes?

He will most likely play next summer in Goodyear with the Arizona rookie level team that is short season and do the same the following year with a higher level rookie club. He really would not be far behind other prospects because you know he will stay in shape with basketball. I would suspect he will have to do some throwing on the STJ campus to prepare for the summer. He will play between June-Aug which is more that the Mets will get from Brad Marquez who has to be back on campus all of August for football. 

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Does that make any sense to anyone?    If his schooling is being paid for by the Reds, why in the world would he still count towards the 13 scholies?   Or does it mean the Reds are simply paying everything not covered by the scholie?  That hardly seems like its even writing into a contract with the supposed value of Amirs....

Quote from: STJ11Redmen on August 17, 2011, 03:50:43 PM

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Does that make any sense to anyone?    If his schooling is being paid for by the Reds, why in the world would he still count towards the 13 scholies?   Or does it mean the Reds are simply paying everything not covered by the scholie?  That hardly seems like its even writing into a contract with the supposed value of Amirs....

It's an NCAA rule..

An individual who receives educational expenses from a professional sports organization as a part of an employment contract does not jeopardize intercollegiate eligibility in all sports, inasmuch as such educational expenses are considered to be employment compensation as opposed to financial aid from an impermissible outside source. [References: NCAA Bylaws 15.01.3 (financial aid not administered by institution); 15.2.5.4.2 (eligibility effects of improper aid from outside organization) and 15.3.1.4 (institutional financial aid to a professional athlete)].

Quote from: crgreen on August 17, 2011, 04:25:12 PM

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Does that make any sense to anyone?    If his schooling is being paid for by the Reds, why in the world would he still count towards the 13 scholies?   Or does it mean the Reds are simply paying everything not covered by the scholie?  That hardly seems like its even writing into a contract with the supposed value of Amirs....

It's an NCAA rule..

An individual who receives educational expenses from a professional sports organization as a part of an employment contract does not jeopardize intercollegiate eligibility in all sports, inasmuch as such educational expenses are considered to be employment compensation as opposed to financial aid from an impermissible outside source. [References: NCAA Bylaws 15.01.3 (financial aid not administered by institution); 15.2.5.4.2 (eligibility effects of improper aid from outside organization) and 15.3.1.4 (institutional financial aid to a professional athlete)].

Got all that - it's okay by the NCAA for the Baseball Reds to pay for his school, and it doesn't affect his eligiblity for any NCAA sport except Baseball.    But what I'm trying to figure is, if the Reds are paying for his school tab, why is he considered one of our 13 scholarships - is his tab being paid TWICE (once by the reds, once by the scholarship)?   Why isn't he a walkon, with the ride that would be used for him freed up since he he no longer has need of it?      School hasn't started yet, so it's not like the he's started using the ride and it has to continue for the year. 

I don't get it either CR.  Several of Louisville's scholarship players returning from last year are walkons this year.  Louisville did it to accommodate more players on the roster.  If Amir's scholarship is paid by the Reds, I don't see how it counts as one of our 13 either.