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Hardy or Hatten

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Poison

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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2011, 10:21:16 PM »
Accountability.

The debate is far from over, but I believe a "maybe you're not nuts" is due.
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carmineabbatiello

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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2011, 01:33:43 AM »
Hardy.  :)
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we are sju

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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2011, 09:35:38 AM »
Wasn't there a thread on this board about how Hardy should come off the bench ::)
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boo3

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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2011, 09:41:33 AM »
 If Hardy keeps playing like this maybe the original question isn't such a reach?    I'll gladly admit to being dead wrong if Hardy leads us deep into the BE tourney and into the Ncaa's.
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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2011, 09:50:24 AM »
Quote from: boo3 on February 11, 2011, 09:41:33 AM
If Hardy keeps playing like this maybe the original question isn't such a reach?    I'll gladly admit to being dead wrong if Hardy leads us deep into the BE tourney and into the Ncaa's.

Last season Hardy averaged 22 mpg. Boothe averaged 33.7. I do not think Hardy has improved that much I just think Norm was a really bad coach
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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #45 on: February 11, 2011, 10:34:50 AM »
Hardy and Hatten's stats per 40 are a lot closer. Efficiency Hardy may have an edge offensively but as I stated previously Hatten was head and shoulders better defensively. 
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Poison

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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #46 on: February 11, 2011, 11:42:27 AM »
Last night Hardy's defense was head and shoulders above the way Hardy has played defense at St.John's.
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Marco Baldi

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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #47 on: February 11, 2011, 11:49:10 AM »
Quote from: Poison on February 11, 2011, 11:42:27 AM
Last night Hardy's defense was head and shoulders above the way Hardy has played defense at St.John's.

Looked like he wanted to outplay his Bronx buddy
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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #48 on: February 11, 2011, 12:17:56 PM »
he definatly wanted to outplay him, but thats one of the biggest problem with us, we only do good when we want to outplay people, how the hell was rutgers that close, wagner, loss to fordham and bonnies,.... we didnt care about those games or teams so they didnt play....... the team needs to figure out to be hyped up before hand, i dunno, maybe dj was pissed the steelers lost?...
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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #49 on: February 11, 2011, 01:52:18 PM »
Hardy has now got above 30 % for the season on 3's..what did Hattan shoot?
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boo3

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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #50 on: February 11, 2011, 02:13:56 PM »
Quote from: xhoops on February 11, 2011, 01:52:18 PM
Hardy has now got above 30 % for the season on 3's..what did Hattan shoot?

  Hatten was 29% for his career.  he average 21ppg for his 2 seasons at st.johns.  His stats are below.


   http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=5306
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Poison

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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #51 on: February 11, 2011, 02:34:52 PM »
I believe Hatten averaged even more points in BE play.
I was at the game where he dropped 34 on Uconn.
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boo3

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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #52 on: February 11, 2011, 02:43:28 PM »
 you may be right poison.


 Just going off strictly memories, because i can't find Hatten's game logs.  Hatten was more consistent i think.  Always scoring 18-25 a game and then really going off when the spotlight was on.   Hardy's last 3 have been great, no doubt. And like other have said,  Hatten was a killer on D.

 One thing that they both have on common is that they get to the line a lot.  Thats what scorers do.
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gonzalo

Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #53 on: February 11, 2011, 02:56:40 PM »
Quote from: we are sju on February 11, 2011, 09:50:24 AM

Last season Hardy averaged 22 mpg. Boothe averaged 33.7


Boothe averaged 33.7 mpg two seasons ago. Last year 25.3.
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carmineabbatiello

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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #54 on: February 11, 2011, 11:10:01 PM »
Quote from: Dave on February 11, 2011, 10:34:50 AM
Efficiency Hardy may have an edge offensively but as I stated previously Hatten was head and shoulders better defensively.

Far be it from me to knock "Maackus" as the program destroyer used to say, but Hatten's defense was all max gambling and steals.  He was not a lockdown, your not getting by me stopper by any means.

I knew Paris Horne and he was no Paris Horne defensively.
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boo3

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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #55 on: February 12, 2011, 08:30:42 AM »
Quote from: carmineabbatiello on February 11, 2011, 11:10:01 PM
Quote from: Dave on February 11, 2011, 10:34:50 AM
Efficiency Hardy may have an edge offensively but as I stated previously Hatten was head and shoulders better defensively.

Far be it from me to knock "Maackus" as the program destroyer used to say, but Hatten's defense was all max gambling and steals.  He was not a lockdown, your not getting by me stopper by any means.

I knew Paris Horne and he was no Paris Horne defensively.

  you are exactly right , carmine. A kid named Mullin played D the same way, minus the speed though. A lot of Hatten's steals came from leaving his man and attacking someone else's.   More a freelance defensive specialist as opposed to a lock down stopper, like paris.  need both types to have a great defensive team.
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boo3

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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #56 on: February 19, 2011, 03:42:50 PM »
  I'm pretty close to admitting i was wrong on this, or at least admitting it's a lot closer than I thought.   Hardy has been great lately. 
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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #57 on: February 19, 2011, 03:58:55 PM »
Hattan is gone just like my, would love to say my youth so then middle age. Siden and Jackson  from my youth (college years) are really gone. Well Hardy is here now and I find no reason to look for flaws in his game. Just enjoy!
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Poison

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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #58 on: February 19, 2011, 04:31:35 PM »
Hardy just Marcus Hattened.
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Marco Baldi

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Re: Hardy or Hatten
« Reply #59 on: February 19, 2011, 05:12:59 PM »
Quote from: boo3 on February 19, 2011, 03:42:50 PM
  I'm pretty close to admitting i was wrong on this, or at least admitting it's a lot closer than I thought.   Hardy has been great lately. 

Ya man me too. How great was it that Hardy thanked the fans in the postgame interview with Doris Burke. It was the first thing out of his mouth
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