Christopher Obekpa - PF - Our Savior New American - Centereach, NY - ST. JOHN'S

Quote from: fordham96 on April 10, 2012, 10:41:40 AM

Quote from: paultzman on April 10, 2012, 10:23:50 AM

Not a big fan of Rothstein, but as I have noted, I agree.

“@JonRothstein: Cincinnati going to be tough to beat @kthstlrfn any update on Chris obekpa?”

Mint...

?

It is a famous Jon Rothstein saying...I was not suggesting I liked what he wrote. 

He will tweet something like, "Just had the Clams Casino at Dominick's on Arthur Ave in the Bronx...Mint."

Jon is a super nice guy, but he is tweeting things already heard and made public.  I think SJU made up a lot of ground but Cincy is still the team to beat for Chris.

Quote from: mkras99 on April 10, 2012, 10:48:36 AM

Quote from: fordham96 on April 10, 2012, 10:41:40 AM

Quote from: paultzman on April 10, 2012, 10:23:50 AM

Not a big fan of Rothstein, but as I have noted, I agree.

“@JonRothstein: Cincinnati going to be tough to beat @kthstlrfn any update on Chris obekpa?”

Mint...

?

It is a famous Jon Rothstein saying...I was not suggesting I liked what he wrote. 

He will tweet something like, "Just had the Clams Casino at Dominick's on Arthur Ave in the Bronx...Mint."

Jon is a super nice guy, but he is tweeting things already heard and made public.  I think SJU made up a lot of ground but Cincy is still the team to beat for Chris.

Gotcha.  I stopped following Rothstein a long time ago so hadn't heard the "Mint" saying.

Quote from: mkras99 on April 10, 2012, 10:48:36 AM

Quote from: fordham96 on April 10, 2012, 10:41:40 AM

Quote from: paultzman on April 10, 2012, 10:23:50 AM

Not a big fan of Rothstein, but as I have noted, I agree.

“@JonRothstein: Cincinnati going to be tough to beat @kthstlrfn any update on Chris obekpa?”

Mint...

?

It is a famous Jon Rothstein saying...I was not suggesting I liked what he wrote. 

He will tweet something like, "Just had the Clams Casino at Dominick's on Arthur Ave in the Bronx...Mint."

Jon is a super nice guy, but he is tweeting things already heard and made public.  I think SJU made up a lot of ground but Cincy is still the team to beat for Chris.

At this point what does "Cincy is still the team to beat for Chris " really mean. Don't you think the kid has already made up his mind ?. What is he expecting us to do that will change his mind ? What is he waiting for ? The highest bidder ? Perhaps waiting to see who else commits before he does ? He should have a pretty good idea of who his teammates will be for next year - on both teams.

Quote from: fordham96 on April 10, 2012, 10:55:15 AM

Quote from: mkras99 on April 10, 2012, 10:48:36 AM

Quote from: fordham96 on April 10, 2012, 10:41:40 AM

Quote from: paultzman on April 10, 2012, 10:23:50 AM

Not a big fan of Rothstein, but as I have noted, I agree.

“@JonRothstein: Cincinnati going to be tough to beat @kthstlrfn any update on Chris obekpa?”

Mint...

?

It is a famous Jon Rothstein saying...I was not suggesting I liked what he wrote. 

He will tweet something like, "Just had the Clams Casino at Dominick's on Arthur Ave in the Bronx...Mint."

Jon is a super nice guy, but he is tweeting things already heard and made public.  I think SJU made up a lot of ground but Cincy is still the team to beat for Chris.

At this point what does "Cincy is still the team to beat for Chris " really mean. Don't you think the kid has already made up his mind ?. What is he expecting us to do that will change his mind ? What is he waiting for ? The highest bidder ? Perhaps waiting to see who else commits before he does ? He should have a pretty good idea of who his teammates will be for next year - on both teams.

I tend to agree with you.  For the kids that were waiting to see what their grades were like in the spring - I understand why they wait so long to make a commitment.  If you need to check on your eligibility or are debating whether to prep next year, then it makes sense to hold off making a decision.

But what are top recruits like Shabaz, Noel, and even lesser recruits like Obekpa, waiting for?    They didn't shoot up the rankings with a solid senior year... they've been sought after since they were sophomores.   

A lot of kids just love the spotlight.

In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:

Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%

In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:

Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%

Ill take those odds

FWIW id rather have (assuming eligibility) Sanches, chandler, and Nolan than Obekpa. But I would still love to have Obekpa

Quote from: fordham96 on April 10, 2012, 01:06:27 PM

In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:

Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%

Ill take those odds

FWIW id rather have (assuming eligibility) Sanches, chandler, and Nolan than Obekpa. But I would still love to have Obekpa

You can't prefer Nolan to Obekpa.  Obekpa is more physically mature and can provide defense at such a high level it offsets the combination of lesser defense and maybe better offense out of Nolan.  No doubt Nolan is the backup plan.

In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:

Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%

Assuming the validity and closeness of the numbers, what beocmes the deciding factor ? You would think both teams would have shot their load by now, unless $incy's load is a little bigger .

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on April 10, 2012, 01:23:53 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on April 10, 2012, 01:06:27 PM

In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:

Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%

Ill take those odds

FWIW id rather have (assuming eligibility) Sanches, chandler, and Nolan than Obekpa. But I would still love to have Obekpa

You can't prefer Nolan to Obekpa.  Obekpa is more physically mature and can provide defense at such a high level it offsets the combination of lesser defense and maybe better offense out of Nolan.  No doubt Nolan is the backup plan.

Haha dont tell me what I can and can't do moose. Seriously though, from what ive seen from obekpa I just think he wont be able to see the floor very much in his first year or two because he will be a big liability on offense.

Also moose I saw you mention on redmen that well get a third player who may or may not be considered a big. Just curious but it cant be Sanches your referring to right?

Sanchez / Chandler, Sanchez / Nolan likely outcomes in that order if scuttlebutt re: Obekpa true IMO. That would be ok, but I certainly prefer Obekpa in the mix. Another mid size, flexible big to play some three and four? We'll see.

Quote from: Moose on April 10, 2012, 01:29:02 PM

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on April 10, 2012, 01:23:53 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on April 10, 2012, 01:06:27 PM

In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:

Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%

Ill take those odds

FWIW id rather have (assuming eligibility) Sanches, chandler, and Nolan than Obekpa. But I would still love to have Obekpa

You can't prefer Nolan to Obekpa.  Obekpa is more physically mature and can provide defense at such a high level it offsets the combination of lesser defense and maybe better offense out of Nolan.  No doubt Nolan is the backup plan.

Haha dont tell me what I can and can't do moose. Seriously though, from what ive seen from obekpa I just think he wont be able to see the floor very much in his first year or two because he will be a big liability on offense.

Also moose I saw you mention on redmen that well get a third player who may or may not be considered a big. Just curious but it cant be Sanches your referring to right?

Obekpa can contribute defensively year 1 from the start.  Nolan I'm not sure about either way year one.  Either seems to be complimentary to Chandler who is your Center providing offense.

Do you consider Sanchez a big?  I do because he can play 4 as well as the 3.

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on April 10, 2012, 01:37:22 PM

Quote from: Moose on April 10, 2012, 01:29:02 PM

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on April 10, 2012, 01:23:53 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on April 10, 2012, 01:06:27 PM

In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:

Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%

Ill take those odds

FWIW id rather have (assuming eligibility) Sanches, chandler, and Nolan than Obekpa. But I would still love to have Obekpa

You can't prefer Nolan to Obekpa.  Obekpa is more physically mature and can provide defense at such a high level it offsets the combination of lesser defense and maybe better offense out of Nolan.  No doubt Nolan is the backup plan.

Haha dont tell me what I can and can't do moose. Seriously though, from what ive seen from obekpa I just think he wont be able to see the floor very much in his first year or two because he will be a big liability on offense.

Also moose I saw you mention on redmen that well get a third player who may or may not be considered a big. Just curious but it cant be Sanches your referring to right?

Obekpa can contribute defensively year 1 from the start.  Nolan I'm not sure about either way year one.  Either seems to be complimentary to Chandler who is your Center providing offense.

Do you consider Sanchez a big?  I do because he can play 4 as well as the 3.

No I absolutely think of him as a big and I would love to have him. That's why I was curious if you were referring to him or not because I would be surprised if anyone didn't consider him a big.

Quote from: fordham96 on April 10, 2012, 01:06:27 PM

In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:

Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%

Assuming the validity and closeness of the numbers, what beocmes the deciding factor ? You would think both teams would have shot their load by now, unless $incy's load is a little bigger .

You understand I was partly joking. 

Sanchez / Chandler, Sanchez / Nolan likely outcomes in that order if scuttlebutt re: Obekpa true IMO. That would be ok, but I certainly prefer Obekpa in the mix. Another mid size, flexible big to play some three and four? We'll see.

No chance that we can get 3 of them?   Like a Chandler/Sanchez/Nolan package?    Or will too many incoming post players scare one another off?

Quote from: fordham96 on April 10, 2012, 10:55:15 AM

Quote from: mkras99 on April 10, 2012, 10:48:36 AM

Quote from: fordham96 on April 10, 2012, 10:41:40 AM

Quote from: paultzman on April 10, 2012, 10:23:50 AM

Not a big fan of Rothstein, but as I have noted, I agree.

“@JonRothstein: Cincinnati going to be tough to beat @kthstlrfn any update on Chris obekpa?”

Mint...

?

It is a famous Jon Rothstein saying...I was not suggesting I liked what he wrote. 

He will tweet something like, "Just had the Clams Casino at Dominick's on Arthur Ave in the Bronx...Mint."

Jon is a super nice guy, but he is tweeting things already heard and made public.  I think SJU made up a lot of ground but Cincy is still the team to beat for Chris.

At this point what does "Cincy is still the team to beat for Chris " really mean. Don't you think the kid has already made up his mind ?. What is he expecting us to do that will change his mind ? What is he waiting for ? The highest bidder ? Perhaps waiting to see who else commits before he does ? He should have a pretty good idea of who his teammates will be for next year - on both teams.

I think he's waiting on his trip to Oregon this weekend at least.  SMH

Quote from: derk on April 10, 2012, 01:36:37 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on April 10, 2012, 01:06:27 PM

In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:

Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%

Assuming the validity and closeness of the numbers, what beocmes the deciding factor ? You would think both teams would have shot their load by now, unless $incy's load is a little bigger .

You understand I was partly joking. 

With my Fordham grad degree, I was able to get your subtlety Fordham. Preety funny though!

Quote from: paultzman on April 10, 2012, 01:37:56 PM

Sanchez / Chandler, Sanchez / Nolan likely outcomes in that order if scuttlebutt re: Obekpa true IMO. That would be ok, but I certainly prefer Obekpa in the mix. Another mid size, flexible big to play some three and four? We'll see.

No chance that we can get 3 of them?   Like a Chandler/Sanchez/Nolan package?    Or will too many incoming post players scare one another off?

I think 3 is definitely possible and likely the direction staff is moving.

Quote from: derk on April 10, 2012, 01:36:37 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on April 10, 2012, 01:06:27 PM

In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:

Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%

Assuming the validity and closeness of the numbers, what beocmes the deciding factor ? You would think both teams would have shot their load by now, unless $incy's load is a little bigger .

You understand I was partly joking.

Wasn't really focusing on the numbers as much as you saying it's a two team race with $incy slightly ahead. If so, what is the missing ingredient. Rhetorically speaking assuming we're a close second do we $till have a $hot.

Quote from: desco80 on April 10, 2012, 01:53:11 PM

Quote from: paultzman on April 10, 2012, 01:37:56 PM

Sanchez / Chandler, Sanchez / Nolan likely outcomes in that order if scuttlebutt re: Obekpa true IMO. That would be ok, but I certainly prefer Obekpa in the mix. Another mid size, flexible big to play some three and four? We'll see.

No chance that we can get 3 of them?   Like a Chandler/Sanchez/Nolan package?    Or will too many incoming post players scare one another off?

I think 3 is definitely possible and likely the direction staff is moving.

I'd like nothing more than that combo, with our without Obekpa.  I love the height of Chandler and Nolan at 6'11 and 6'10 respectively.  Lots of room for both guys. Would allow Sanchez to play more at the 4.  Would be a phenomenal class.  Crossing my fingers.