Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cincinnati Transfer - Bayside, NY

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Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #380 on: August 26, 2012, 09:00:13 PM »
I'd move on from both

Based on comments today about Lawrence, I must agree with you.

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Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #381 on: August 26, 2012, 09:09:44 PM »
Must add that the absence of some scheduled visits by now is a tad disappointing. No panic, but  concerned. 2014 is to me the class that has "must gets". IMO, we can fan on Lawrence and Martin and survive. To not land a couple of blue chip guys we are targeting for 14 would be a problem. We'll see!

Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #382 on: August 26, 2012, 09:28:35 PM »
Long way to go and he is unlikely to sign early which means this could stretch into the spring.

Take a deep breath.

Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #383 on: August 26, 2012, 09:34:37 PM »
So Lawrence lists us in his top 7 but we're all ready to jump off a cliff because we have no shot at him?  Wow!

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Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #384 on: August 26, 2012, 09:50:41 PM »
So Lawrence lists us in his top 7 but we're all ready to jump off a cliff because we have no shot at him?  Wow!

Nobody is ready to jump off a cliff I'd just move on IMO.  I would focus on Ndour but haven't heard boo on him since he's a JUCO and therefore not much going on during the summer.
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Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #385 on: August 26, 2012, 10:16:14 PM »
Truth be told, it's not going to kill us either way.  It's still one of those classes that I'd like to see us land 2 legit guys, regardless of whether it is Lawrence.  I'm sure we'll be involved with a few more big names before this is all over.  Last kid who was a "lock" for Cincy was a kid named Chris Obekpa.  It's real early and we only need one or two guys. 

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Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #386 on: August 26, 2012, 11:16:54 PM »
Truth be told, it's not going to kill us either way.  It's still one of those classes that I'd like to see us land 2 legit guys, regardless of whether it is Lawrence.  I'm sure we'll be involved with a few more big names before this is all over.  Last kid who was a "lock" for Cincy was a kid named Chris Obekpa.  It's real early and we only need one or two guys.

I agree.   I think waiting till spring isn't such a bad thing.   Given as good as I think we'll play this year, and the low number of signees we're likely to need, I think Steve is going to be able to cherry-pick a bit from the top remaining talent come spring (including as you note, some guys not really in the discussion at the moment).  A nice tourney run will make SJU much more attractive, as will Steve proving he's healthy and able to coach a full season.   

Just my  personal opinion.   

A reminder - Steve landed Jason Kapono for UCLA only AFTER Baron Davis declared for the draft - Kap was heading to Missouri with best bud Josh Kroenke, when Baron's departure opened up 30 minutes of starting PT at UCLA.   (And yes, Josh Kroenke is the son of Nuggets owner Stan Kroenke)....it was so late in recruiting that signing day was well past - Kap couldn't sign an LOI - only a grant-in-aid...

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Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #387 on: August 27, 2012, 07:40:01 AM »
Truth be told, it's not going to kill us either way.  It's still one of those classes that I'd like to see us land 2 legit guys, regardless of whether it is Lawrence.  I'm sure we'll be involved with a few more big names before this is all over.  Last kid who was a "lock" for Cincy was a kid named Chris Obekpa.  It's real early and we only need one or two guys.

I agree.   I think waiting till spring isn't such a bad thing.   Given as good as I think we'll play this year, and the low number of signees we're likely to need, I think Steve is going to be able to cherry-pick a bit from the top remaining talent come spring (including as you note, some guys not really in the discussion at the moment).  A nice tourney run will make SJU much more attractive, as will Steve proving he's healthy and able to coach a full season.   

Just my  personal opinion.   

A reminder - Steve landed Jason Kapono for UCLA only AFTER Baron Davis declared for the draft - Kap was heading to Missouri with best bud Josh Kroenke, when Baron's departure opened up 30 minutes of starting PT at UCLA.   (And yes, Josh Kroenke is the son of Nuggets owner Stan Kroenke)....it was so late in recruiting that signing day was well past - Kap couldn't sign an LOI - only a grant-in-aid...



Agree


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Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #388 on: August 27, 2012, 02:16:14 PM »
Guys I don't know him personally. Its just a guest

Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #389 on: August 27, 2012, 02:47:43 PM »
UK Rivals site talked to Jermaine.  Again he is going to decide next spring.

"Cutting my list to just seven was a stressful process," Lawrence told Cats Illustrated. "There's no real way to know that a college is 100 percent the right fit for you, and it's such an important decision in determining your future, so it really stressed me out at several times.

"At the end of the day I think that those seven schools give me the best chance to be successful and lead me towards the future that I have envisioned for myself."

Via Twitter, Lawrence named Kentucky, UCLA, Kansas, St. Johns, Cincinnati, Syracuse and UNLV as his seven finalists while also mentioning that all seven schools stood on level ground in his mind.

"The schools that I'm still interested in are saying that they're recruiting me as a small forward," said Lawrence, "I think that the three is my best position but I understand if they put me down low as well.

"I'm tall, I'm long I do a lot of things on the floor so I can play either spot. I'd rather be on the court then on the bench complaining about a position."

Lawrence's seven finalists don't have much in common. There are west coast schools, east coast schools, programs from the south and even one team that does not play in a traditional "big six" conference.

With his final decision being held off into the spring, Lawrence is still trying to decide exactly what he is looking for in a school.

"Mainly, I want to be comfortable with the coaching staff," Lawrence said, "I know that I want to play in an up-tempo style because that fits my game and I'd love to play in a historically intense home environment."

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1401260


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Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #390 on: August 27, 2012, 02:49:07 PM »
If he's committing in the Spring that list will change.
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Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #391 on: August 27, 2012, 02:51:45 PM »
If he's committing in the Spring that list will change.

Could but my guess is it will simply be cut down not expanded.  He sounds pretty set and pretty relieved that he has his final list.

Again UK is a wild card.  Obviously Cal as a coach and Kentucky as a program are a very difficult combo right now to beat on the recruiting front.

Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #392 on: August 28, 2012, 12:14:00 AM »
In Pitt Cal left Harrison twins game to go see Lawrence. He's definitely on UK radar.

As for Cincy, Lawrence will be their Lance Stephenson. They need that prized recruit more so than anyone and will be there till the very end. Will they get him? Who knows but they will be a big player for him. Lawrence is an odd personality and he'd make one hell of a poker player. When I say odd there is nothing wrong with him but he is reserved and I could see him making a decision completely against the grain.

I know his high school coach and he's a good guy. I don't know his advisor (handler) personally but he is the guy running the show.

If I were to place a bet today I'd say Martin has a better chance coming to St. John's than Lawrence. If Martin comes here you can thank Ricardo Gathers.
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Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #393 on: August 28, 2012, 12:30:27 AM »
In Pitt Cal left Harrison twins game to go see Lawrence. He's definitely on UK radar.

As for Cincy, Lawrence will be their Lance Stephenson. They need that prized recruit more so than anyone and will be there till the very end. Will they get him? Who knows but they will be a big player for him. Lawrence is an odd personality and he'd make one hell of a poker player. When I say odd there is nothing wrong with him but he is reserved and I could see him making a decision completely against the grain.

I know his high school coach and he's a good guy. I don't know his advisor (handler) personally but he is the guy running the show.

If I were to place a bet today I'd say Martin has a better chance coming to St. John's than Lawrence. If Martin comes here you can thank Ricardo Gathers.

Isn't Lawrence's handler a female or did I just read your sentence wrong.
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Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #394 on: August 28, 2012, 08:46:02 AM »
In Pitt Cal left Harrison twins game to go see Lawrence. He's definitely on UK radar.

As for Cincy, Lawrence will be their Lance Stephenson. They need that prized recruit more so than anyone and will be there till the very end. Will they get him? Who knows but they will be a big player for him. Lawrence is an odd personality and he'd make one hell of a poker player. When I say odd there is nothing wrong with him but he is reserved and I could see him making a decision completely against the grain.

I know his high school coach and he's a good guy. I don't know his advisor (handler) personally but he is the guy running the show.

If I were to place a bet today I'd say Martin has a better chance coming to St. John's than Lawrence. If Martin comes here you can thank Ricardo Gathers.

Isn't Lawrence's handler a female or did I just read your sentence wrong.
Lawrence will stay close to continue to participate in his church activities. His mother is no joke .

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Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #395 on: August 28, 2012, 08:58:57 AM »
In Pitt Cal left Harrison twins game to go see Lawrence. He's definitely on UK radar.

As for Cincy, Lawrence will be their Lance Stephenson. They need that prized recruit more so than anyone and will be there till the very end. Will they get him? Who knows but they will be a big player for him. Lawrence is an odd personality and he'd make one hell of a poker player. When I say odd there is nothing wrong with him but he is reserved and I could see him making a decision completely against the grain.

I know his high school coach and he's a good guy. I don't know his advisor (handler) personally but he is the guy running the show.

If I were to place a bet today I'd say Martin has a better chance coming to St. John's than Lawrence. If Martin comes here you can thank Ricardo Gathers.

Isn't Lawrence's handler a female or did I just read your sentence wrong.
Lawrence will stay close to continue to participate in his church activities. His mother is no joke .

If Mom wins out yes.  But that damn handler.
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Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #396 on: August 28, 2012, 09:24:41 AM »
Great to hear we are involved.  Get Jakarr drafted, then slide in Lawrence.

If we keep losing our top recruits after one season, we are going to keep winning 14 games per season. Harkless should be the exception, not the rule.

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Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #397 on: August 28, 2012, 09:41:32 AM »
Great to hear we are involved.  Get Jakarr drafted, then slide in Lawrence.

If we keep losing our top recruits after one season, we are going to keep winning 14 games per season. Harkless should be the exception, not the rule.

Um. No
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Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #398 on: August 28, 2012, 10:11:22 AM »
Great to hear we are involved.  Get Jakarr drafted, then slide in Lawrence.

If we keep losing our top recruits after one season, we are going to keep winning 14 games per season. Harkless should be the exception, not the rule.

That's why we go so deep into our bench with top players.  How many teams out there have top 70 kids like Sir'Dom Pointer coming in off the bench.  If we lose a stud like Harkless it is a win for the kid and a win for SJU.  The best programs lose top players all the time but don't lose a step.  New studs fill in.  It's the direction we're headed.  I think this years team will show why that is so.  We will be deep with talent.

Re: Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cardozo HS - Bayside, NY
« Reply #399 on: August 28, 2012, 10:20:23 AM »
Great to hear we are involved.  Get Jakarr drafted, then slide in Lawrence.

If we keep losing our top recruits after one season, we are going to keep winning 14 games per season. Harkless should be the exception, not the rule.

Another genius statement.  Equating losing a player or two early to completely overturning your entire roster.

Harkless made a distrastrous mistake entering the draft despite later going 15th.

SJU hiring an assistant off of a fractured staff is somehow unprecedented.

Tom Pecora is finished at Fordham after just two years because it is unlikely he will have Fordham in the NCAA's this year.

And now SJU is in deep trouble if they lose a one and done kid.