Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cincinnati Transfer - Bayside, NY

"That's why this matters, if it matters at all off the court. We need to continue to show everyone that we've made progress."

We have 6 top 100 players playing major minutes.  Norm never got one.  I say we've made plenty of progress.

I agree, but this is our backyard. We are not going up against Duke or NC for this guy. This is Cincinnati, OH. No NY kid should pick that over us. Gotta protect your turf. All SJ has asked for is their fair share. We can't be losing top 25 kids to midwestern trash bag cities.

Quote from: Howie71 on January 25, 2013, 02:41:37 PM

"That's why this matters, if it matters at all off the court. We need to continue to show everyone that we've made progress."

We have 6 top 100 players playing major minutes.  Norm never got one.  I say we've made plenty of progress.

I agree, but this is our backyard. We are not going up against Duke or NC for this guy. This is Cincinnati, OH. No NY kid should pick that over us. Gotta protect your turf. All SJ has asked for is their fair share. We can't be losing top 25 kids to midwestern trash bag cities.

Steve has delivered the state's best player in back to back years.

Quote from: Poison on January 25, 2013, 02:46:33 PM

Quote from: Howie71 on January 25, 2013, 02:41:37 PM

"That's why this matters, if it matters at all off the court. We need to continue to show everyone that we've made progress."

We have 6 top 100 players playing major minutes.  Norm never got one.  I say we've made plenty of progress.

I agree, but this is our backyard. We are not going up against Duke or NC for this guy. This is Cincinnati, OH. No NY kid should pick that over us. Gotta protect your turf. All SJ has asked for is their fair share. We can't be losing top 25 kids to midwestern trash bag cities.

Steve has delivered the state's best player in back to back years.

He won't in 2014 though 

“@ECoastBias: RT @rumbleSBN: St. John's recruiting: Steve Lavin and Tony Chiles watch Jermaine Lawrence. #stjbb http://t.co/dsQIMcDc”

Quote from: MaineQB on January 25, 2013, 03:21:09 PM

Quote from: Poison on January 25, 2013, 02:46:33 PM

Quote from: Howie71 on January 25, 2013, 02:41:37 PM

"That's why this matters, if it matters at all off the court. We need to continue to show everyone that we've made progress."

We have 6 top 100 players playing major minutes.  Norm never got one.  I say we've made plenty of progress.

I agree, but this is our backyard. We are not going up against Duke or NC for this guy. This is Cincinnati, OH. No NY kid should pick that over us. Gotta protect your turf. All SJ has asked for is their fair share. We can't be losing top 25 kids to midwestern trash bag cities.

Steve has delivered the state's best player in back to back years.

He won't in 2014 though

Nope.  That was sealed the day Brewster showed up

Quote from: Poison on January 25, 2013, 02:46:33 PM

Quote from: Howie71 on January 25, 2013, 02:41:37 PM

"That's why this matters, if it matters at all off the court. We need to continue to show everyone that we've made progress."

We have 6 top 100 players playing major minutes.  Norm never got one.  I say we've made plenty of progress.

I agree, but this is our backyard. We are not going up against Duke or NC for this guy. This is Cincinnati, OH. No NY kid should pick that over us. Gotta protect your turf. All SJ has asked for is their fair share. We can't be losing top 25 kids to midwestern trash bag cities.

Steve has delivered the state's best player in back to back years.

I understand that, and I'm content w our recruiting but not thrilled.
This particular case IMO is important. This is a kid who grew up watching SJ.
He lived at Alumni Hall. For him to leave after sending so much time here
would be crushing.

Quote from: MaineQB on January 25, 2013, 03:21:09 PM

Quote from: Poison on January 25, 2013, 02:46:33 PM

Quote from: Howie71 on January 25, 2013, 02:41:37 PM

"That's why this matters, if it matters at all off the court. We need to continue to show everyone that we've made progress."

We have 6 top 100 players playing major minutes.  Norm never got one.  I say we've made plenty of progress.

I agree, but this is our backyard. We are not going up against Duke or NC for this guy. This is Cincinnati, OH. No NY kid should pick that over us. Gotta protect your turf. All SJ has asked for is their fair share. We can't be losing top 25 kids to midwestern trash bag cities.

Steve has delivered the state's best player in back to back years.

I understand that, and I'm content w our recruiting but not thrilled.
This particular case IMO is important. This is a kid who grew up watching SJ.
He lived at Alumni Hall. For him to leave after sending so much time here
would be crushing.

  Good thing he's coming then...

Quote from: MaineQB on January 25, 2013, 03:21:09 PM

Quote from: Poison on January 25, 2013, 02:46:33 PM

Quote from: Howie71 on January 25, 2013, 02:41:37 PM

"That's why this matters, if it matters at all off the court. We need to continue to show everyone that we've made progress."

We have 6 top 100 players playing major minutes.  Norm never got one.  I say we've made plenty of progress.

I agree, but this is our backyard. We are not going up against Duke or NC for this guy. This is Cincinnati, OH. No NY kid should pick that over us. Gotta protect your turf. All SJ has asked for is their fair share. We can't be losing top 25 kids to midwestern trash bag cities.

Steve has delivered the state's best player in back to back years.

I'm content w our recruiting but not thrilled.

This statement shows how much we take for granted Lavin's recruiting ability. "content?" If getting top 50 recruits year in and year out makes you "content" I'm not sure you will ever be thrilled with our recruiting.

Quote from: sju89tr on January 25, 2013, 03:40:05 PM

Quote from: MaineQB on January 25, 2013, 03:21:09 PM

Quote from: Poison on January 25, 2013, 02:46:33 PM

Quote from: Howie71 on January 25, 2013, 02:41:37 PM

"That's why this matters, if it matters at all off the court. We need to continue to show everyone that we've made progress."

We have 6 top 100 players playing major minutes.  Norm never got one.  I say we've made plenty of progress.

I agree, but this is our backyard. We are not going up against Duke or NC for this guy. This is Cincinnati, OH. No NY kid should pick that over us. Gotta protect your turf. All SJ has asked for is their fair share. We can't be losing top 25 kids to midwestern trash bag cities.

Steve has delivered the state's best player in back to back years.

He won't in 2014 though

Nope.  That was sealed the day Brewster showed up

We won't land the #2 recruit either, and probably not the 3rd to boot.

As everyone knows, I am a huge Lavin homer but to blame Brewster for McCullough is wrong. No one forced us to not show up there once to watch him play in the fall. 

 Let's not forget Sampson came from Brewster also.

Quote from: MaineQB on January 25, 2013, 03:56:49 PM

Quote from: sju89tr on January 25, 2013, 03:40:05 PM

Quote from: MaineQB on January 25, 2013, 03:21:09 PM

Quote from: Poison on January 25, 2013, 02:46:33 PM

Quote from: Howie71 on January 25, 2013, 02:41:37 PM

"That's why this matters, if it matters at all off the court. We need to continue to show everyone that we've made progress."

We have 6 top 100 players playing major minutes.  Norm never got one.  I say we've made plenty of progress.

I agree, but this is our backyard. We are not going up against Duke or NC for this guy. This is Cincinnati, OH. No NY kid should pick that over us. Gotta protect your turf. All SJ has asked for is their fair share. We can't be losing top 25 kids to midwestern trash bag cities.

Steve has delivered the state's best player in back to back years.

He won't in 2014 though

Nope.  That was sealed the day Brewster showed up

We won't land the #2 recruit either, and probably not the 3rd to boot.

As everyone knows, I am a huge Lavin homer but to blame Brewster for McCullough is wrong. No one forced us to not show up there once to watch him play in the fall.

The difference being we are now just filling spots instead of a whole roster.

Let's not forget Sampson came from Brewster also.

You don't say?

There's a reason Tony wasn't subletting a place on Lake Winnipesaukee and it wasn't beacuse he didn't save the address in Wolfeboro on his GPS. 

Steve has delivered the state's best player in back to back years.

Mo- definitely
but many might say that the rankings were correct putting Calhoun ahead of Chris O

Quote from: MaineQB on January 25, 2013, 03:21:09 PM

Steve has delivered the state's best player in back to back years.

Mo- definitely
but many might say that the rankings were correct putting Calhoun ahead of Chris O

Many wouldn't even count Obekpa.  Some would say Long Island.  Some would say only been in America for a few years, etc.

Quote from: Poison on January 25, 2013, 04:01:34 PM

Quote from: MaineQB on January 25, 2013, 03:21:09 PM

Quote from: Poison on January 25, 2013, 02:46:33 PM

Quote from: Howie71 on January 25, 2013, 02:41:37 PM

"That's why this matters, if it matters at all off the court. We need to continue to show everyone that we've made progress."

We have 6 top 100 players playing major minutes.  Norm never got one.  I say we've made plenty of progress.

I agree, but this is our backyard. We are not going up against Duke or NC for this guy. This is Cincinnati, OH. No NY kid should pick that over us. Gotta protect your turf. All SJ has asked for is their fair share. We can't be losing top 25 kids to midwestern trash bag cities.

Steve has delivered the state's best player in back to back years.

I'm content w our recruiting but not thrilled.

This statement shows how much we take for granted Lavin's recruiting ability. "content?" If getting top 50 recruits year in and year out makes you "content" I'm not sure you will ever be thrilled with our recruiting.

It's not just about the ranking of the player coming in. It's about the system that is being built. As far as recruiting goes, I see way to many summer leaguers who can't shoot a three pointer, or hit a free throw. Still, I credit Steve Lavin for picking up the pieces, and putting together 3 straight wins. But at the end of the day, if someone told you that 3 years ago, an NIT bid in year 3 would be something to be content with, I think most fans would take issue.

Norm wasn't far off from the NIT in 06-07. This team is certainly better than that one, but by how much? We'll see.

Quote from: MaineQB on January 25, 2013, 03:21:09 PM

Steve has delivered the state's best player in back to back years.

Mo- definitely
but many might say that the rankings were correct putting Calhoun ahead of Chris O

It's comparing two guys who do completely different things. IMO, there are more freshman who can do everything Omar Calhoun can than there are freshman who can do what Obekpa does. Actually no freshman does what Obekpa does.

Quote from: stevep502 on January 25, 2013, 04:47:08 PM

Quote from: MaineQB on January 25, 2013, 03:21:09 PM

Steve has delivered the state's best player in back to back years.

Mo- definitely
but many might say that the rankings were correct putting Calhoun ahead of Chris O

It's comparing two guys who do completely different things. IMO, there are more freshman who can do everything Omar Calhoun can than there are freshman who can do what Obekpa does. Actually no freshman does what Obekpa does.

Maybe one or two other players in the country do what Obekpa does.  People who aren't content with Lavin's recruiting are ridiculous.  Guy is bringing in straight talent year in and year out.  He'll continue to do that.  We lose McCullough but land Lawrence.  I'm more than fine with that.  We will fill roster with the best kids from other states as we have thus far, even when we don't land the top kid from NY.  Sure we can we another kid or two that can shoot and I'm sure Lavin knows that as well and will go after some of those kids.  This is thus far only Lavin's second recruiting class.  In his third he might land Lawrence and/or Rysheed.  We're on the right track without doubt.

Quote from: Poison on January 25, 2013, 05:22:09 PM

Quote from: stevep502 on January 25, 2013, 04:47:08 PM

Quote from: MaineQB on January 25, 2013, 03:21:09 PM

Steve has delivered the state's best player in back to back years.

Mo- definitely
but many might say that the rankings were correct putting Calhoun ahead of Chris O

It's comparing two guys who do completely different things. IMO, there are more freshman who can do everything Omar Calhoun can than there are freshman who can do what Obekpa does. Actually no freshman does what Obekpa does.

Maybe one or two other players in the country do what Obekpa does.  People who aren't content with Lavin's recruiting are ridiculous.  Guy is bringing in straight talent year in and year out.  He'll continue to do that.  We lose McCullough but land Lawrence.  I'm more than fine with that.  We will fill roster with the best kids from other states as we have thus far, even when we don't land the top kid from NY.  Sure we can we another kid or two that can shoot and I'm sure Lavin knows that as well and will go after some of those kids.  This is thus far only Lavin's second recruiting class.  In his third he might land Lawrence and/or Rysheed.  We're on the right track without doubt.

We have NOT landed Lawrence or Jordan yet!

sju89tr -- I know Chris M and Isiah are 1 and 2 for 2014 NYC.  Who is the third player you are alluding to?

sju89tr -- I know Chris M and Isiah are 1 and 2 for 2014 NYC.  Who is the third player you are alluding to?

Carrington

Uconn lean at this point.  Still time to go.