Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cincinnati Transfer - Bayside, NY

Quote from: Moon Mullin on February 01, 2013, 03:55:49 PM

It's time to let go of Norm, and Maven's info is wrong.

Not that I ever have any inside info myself anymore but from reading all the St. John's boards for years, the so called Maven has been wrongo many, many times.

You guys aren't understanding. Lavin will not chase a recruit plain and simple. Get down or lay down-KOB

I don't really get involved in commenting on recruiting for the simple reason that I do not follow HS basketball. I do have a question though. Some of you are applauding coach for not "chasing" recruits. Now I do not have a problem with that either, but didn't some of you kill Jarvis for same approach? What is the difference?

Quote from: we are sju on February 04, 2013, 09:24:17 AM

You guys aren't understanding. Lavin will not chase a recruit plain and simple. Get down or lay down-KOB

I don't really get involved in commenting on recruiting for the simple reason that I do not follow HS basketball. I do have a question though. Some of you are applauding coach for not "chasing" recruits. Now I do not have a problem with that either, but didn't some of you kill Jarvis for same approach? What is the difference?

Jarvis sat idle and expected recruits to come to him. Lavin is more calculated in his approach of targeting recruits.

-If Lav has no shot at a recruit he's not going to go after him
-If a recruit becomes to high maintenance he's distancing himself
-If a recruit has too many outside influences that become problematic he's distancing himself

Lawrence handler had a lot of demands. I don't want to say too much but one example is his handler is already fishing for TV deals for a reality show on Jermaine going to the draft. Ironically Cincy has some experience with this kind of thing.

Yes I was wrong but man a lot of posters here have some really ggod insight as to what occured and how it went down. I am sorry for getting your hopes up and feeding what turned out to be bad info. Yes I was going to name Alexes Hargrove as the handler by name but its already out there. Also as I have posted previously me and Mr Zagoria have had differences before but on this one hes dead on. This women munipulated this kid beyond belief...Cinci is a good program and in my limited exposure to their staff they are good accoutable men but this kid and his family wanted SJU. As for LAvin backing away the last few weeks as some posters have mentioned I didnt know that but im sure they are right, again my bad. This is a really bad situation and a really bad indication of whats going on out there with these kids and at times in the past ive been as quilty as anyone but this one and this women ia one for the record books. Lav iand Tony are good men and like Dave said know the reality of recruiting and I can tell you they are working as hard as anybody.....Again sorry, no excuses but when a family memeber tells me SJU I believed her...more will come out about her in the coming weeks.....

Yes I was wrong but man a lot of posters here have some really ggod insight as to what occured and how it went down. I am sorry for getting your hopes up and feeding what turned out to be bad info. Yes I was going to name Alexes Hargrove as the handler by name but its already out there. Also as I have posted previously me and Mr Zagoria have had differences before but on this one hes dead on. This women munipulated this kid beyond belief...Cinci is a good program and in my limited exposure to their staff they are good accoutable men but this kid and his family wanted SJU. As for LAvin backing away the last few weeks as some posters have mentioned I didnt know that but im sure they are right, again my bad. This is a really bad situation and a really bad indication of whats going on out there with these kids and at times in the past ive been as quilty as anyone but this one and this women ia one for the record books. Lav iand Tony are good men and like Dave said know the reality of recruiting and I can tell you they are working as hard as anybody.....Again sorry, no excuses but when a family memeber tells me SJU I believed her...more will come out about her in the coming weeks.....

Yes I was wrong but man a lot of posters here have some really ggod insight as to what occured and how it went down. I am sorry for getting your hopes up and feeding what turned out to be bad info. Yes I was going to name Alexes Hargrove as the handler by name but its already out there. Also as I have posted previously me and Mr Zagoria have had differences before but on this one hes dead on. This women munipulated this kid beyond belief...Cinci is a good program and in my limited exposure to their staff they are good accoutable men but this kid and his family wanted SJU. As for LAvin backing away the last few weeks as some posters have mentioned I didnt know that but im sure they are right, again my bad. This is a really bad situation and a really bad indication of whats going on out there with these kids and at times in the past ive been as quilty as anyone but this one and this women ia one for the record books. Lav iand Tony are good men and like Dave said know the reality of recruiting and I can tell you they are working as hard as anybody.....Again sorry, no excuses but when a family memeber tells me SJU I believed her...more will come out about her in the coming weeks.....

Quote from: redmen7805 on February 03, 2013, 02:50:10 PM

Quote from: steveyl15 on February 03, 2013, 02:38:27 PM

The loss of first Wainwright and now Lawrence is troubling, especially with both committing elsewhere before visiting. Sure. However, it sounds like we've been spoiled. We were down to the wire with a top 20 recruit who we had no business talking to before Lavin came in. We are by no means a perennial tournament team YET. Lavin's brought us this far with recruiting, I trust he has a lot left in the tank. We take the loss and move on.

I didn't mind too much Wainright committing else where. It is more striking out on the two local kids (McCollough and Lawrence). It also doesn't appear we have a legitimate back-up plan.

It is one thing to strike out with this class, but we can't afford to also strike out with the 2014 class.

Your right.  Never would have thought we missed on both Jermaine and Chris.

Quote from: kob24 on February 03, 2013, 02:42:55 PM

I'm sorry poison I disagree I don't think he is a big loss. I could be wrong but I doubt it

You don't have to get every NYC high school star, but you need to get your share. Don't get me wrong, I think 99% of these NYC are entitled overrated punks, not all of them. When you focus on a Queens kid, and he bolts for Cincinnati, you have either dropped the ball recruiting, or someone(s) is cheating.

For Cincinnati to land any coveted New Yorker, something fishy must be going on.

Quote from: Poison on February 03, 2013, 02:57:40 PM

Quote from: kob24 on February 03, 2013, 02:42:55 PM

I'm sorry poison I disagree I don't think he is a big loss. I could be wrong but I doubt it

You don't have to get every NYC high school star, but you need to get your share. Don't get me wrong, I think 99% of these NYC are entitled overrated punks, not all of them. When you focus on a Queens kid, and he bolts for Cincinnati, you have either dropped the ball recruiting, or someone(s) is cheating.

For Cincinnati to land any coveted New Yorker, something fishy must be going on.

Jermaine probably thinks he's one and done material, and he might be.   
It looks like we'll have returning; a potential 1st/2nd team all conference forward in Jakarr who scored 15ppg as a frosh, a vastly improved Dom Pointer, and an experienced role player in Garrett.  Plus, Obekpa who's a qausi- power forward.    And, assuming nothing ridiculous happens, we'll have a junior shooting guard who avgs 20ppg, and takes 15+ shots a night.

At forward Cincy returns Rubles and Justin Jackson who are 5pt/5reb guys, and Shaq Thomas who barely plays.   
Plus their 2nd and 3rd leading scorers Cashmere Wright and Parker are set to graduate.   And, it's not out of the question Kilpatrick goes into the draf this year..

It's not ridiculous to think Jermaine gets more touches and to showcase himself more at Cincinnatti next year.    Would he play meaningful minutes for us?  Of course.    But there are only so many shots and minutes to go around.   Moe and Jakarr both came here and got all the minutes and shots they could handle... and it helped them look like studs.   JL probably wants to do the same.

JL and family are definitely looking at one and done. While he would have plenty of starters minutes with us, it's very possible he'd be 2nd or 3rd option at best.

Also, doesn't the Cincy arena have the same name as that film company.[/

Quote from: Poison on February 03, 2013, 02:57:40 PM

Quote from: kob24 on February 03, 2013, 02:42:55 PM

I'm sorry poison I disagree I don't think he is a big loss. I could be wrong but I doubt it

You don't have to get every NYC high school star, but you need to get your share. Don't get me wrong, I think 99% of these NYC are entitled overrated punks, not all of them. When you focus on a Queens kid, and he bolts for Cincinnati, you have either dropped the ball recruiting, or someone(s) is cheating.

For Cincinnati to land any coveted New Yorker, something fishy must be going on.

Jermaine probably thinks he's one and done material, and he might be.   
It looks like we'll have returning; a potential 1st/2nd team all conference forward in Jakarr who scored 15ppg as a frosh, a vastly improved Dom Pointer, and an experienced role player in Garrett.  Plus, Obekpa who's a qausi- power forward.    And, assuming nothing ridiculous happens, we'll have a junior shooting guard who avgs 20ppg, and takes 15+ shots a night.

At forward Cincy returns Rubles and Justin Jackson who are 5pt/5reb guys, and Shaq Thomas who barely plays.   
Plus their 2nd and 3rd leading scorers Cashmere Wright and Parker are set to graduate.   And, it's not out of the question Kilpatrick goes into the draf this year..

It's not ridiculous to think Jermaine gets more touches and to showcase himself more at Cincinnatti next year.    Would he play meaningful minutes for us?  Of course.    But there are only so many shots and minutes to go around.   Moe and Jakarr both came here and got all the minutes and shots they could handle... and it helped them look like studs.   JL probably wants to do the same.

the name of Hargrove's production company is Tenth & Fifth Films.  All her projects are basketball related.

https://twitter.com/10thn5thFilms

http://vimeo.com/tnffs

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5006708

Yeah, I saw that lawsuit thing too.  I don't know how it is relevent to basketball.  That's just a natural part of doing business.