Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cincinnati Transfer - Bayside, NY

Quote from: desco80 on May 14, 2014, 11:02:51 AM

Jordan, Harrison, Lawrence, Thomas, Obekpa ?     
 I think that would be my choice.  But I never underestimate Lav's love for Phil.   Plus, if Christian Jones is as ready to breakout as some think, then I could see him finding a way into the starting lineup as well.

Not sure Lavin is that in love with Phil. Phil wasn't starting at the begining of the season. Phil earned it by default.

Phil was the starter from day 1.   He started the Wisconsin game. 
Lavin loves him.   Branch shouldve been given that opportunity.  He was brought in to be the starting pg, but was never put in that role.

Starting Five...

Jordan
D'Lo
Thomas
JLaw
Green/Branch/Dom. The only walk-on even considered is Stewart. Lavin will play with this position. You need Thomas to sweep the boards. Also off the bench are Obekpa, Jones and the DLR brothers.

1) no walkon starters.   We saw enough of that.

2) I imagine Obekpa will be on the next flight to France or signing a contract with the Erie Bayhawks  if coach goes with that lineup. 
Also, our best lineup includes him at center.  I'd be shocked if he didn't start. 

Being honest, I'm nervous about our chances with Lawrence. Why is Hofstra the first stop?  Why are 2 MAC schools and only one BE school on his short list?  He was a top 25 ranked recruit this time last year. Maybe his time at Cincy rattled his confidence and he's looking to play lesser competition to to showcase his talents?  Just saying, something doesn't feel right about this. Really hope I'm wrong.

Quote from: SJUFAN on May 14, 2014, 07:32:53 PM

Quote from: desco80 on May 14, 2014, 11:02:51 AM

Jordan, Harrison, Lawrence, Thomas, Obekpa ?     
 I think that would be my choice.  But I never underestimate Lav's love for Phil.   Plus, if Christian Jones is as ready to breakout as some think, then I could see him finding a way into the starting lineup as well.

Not sure Lavin is that in love with Phil. Phil wasn't starting at the begining of the season. Phil earned it by default.

Phil was the starter from day 1.   He started the Wisconsin game. 
Lavin loves him.   Branch shouldve been given that opportunity.  He was brought in to be the starting pg, but was never put in that role.

Lavin loves Phil, but Branch was the starter for the opener. He didnt play great against Wisconsin and lavin gave up on him.

Being honest, I'm nervous about our chances with Lawrence. Why is Hofstra the first stop?  Why are 2 MAC schools and only one BE school on his short list?  He was a top 25 ranked recruit this time last year. Maybe his time at Cincy rattled his confidence and he's looking to play lesser competition to to showcase his talents?  Just saying, something doesn't feel right about this. Really hope I'm wrong.

Those schools have something in common geographically.


"I'm leaving UC because my father is ill," Lawrence said in a UC release. "I want to be closer to him as well as be close enough where I can have him and my mom attend my games. We appreciate everyone's support."

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/university-of-cincinnati/2014/05/13/jermaine-lawrence-granted-release-from-uc/9034929/

Being honest, I'm nervous about our chances with Lawrence. Why is Hofstra the first stop?  Why are 2 MAC schools and only one BE school on his short list?  He was a top 25 ranked recruit this time last year. Maybe his time at Cincy rattled his confidence and he's looking to play lesser competition to to showcase his talents?  Just saying, something doesn't feel right about this. Really hope I'm wrong.

As was pointed out, he made clear he wants to transfer back to the NY area to be close to his ailing father plus there is no way he would get a waiver if he transferred anywhere else but the area.  Right off the bat that eliminates 99% of D-1 colleges in the country. 

So then take it from that point.  You have 3 BE/Big 10 schools in the area.  Rutgers has done absolutely NOTHING for about 2 decades and will be permanently stuck at the bottom of the Big 10 for the next 3-4 years at least.  SHU has a nice class but they have gone now 8 straight years with missing the NCAA's and are mostly irrelevant.  We know about SJU.  Manhattan and Iona are the best mid-major/small major programs in the area BY A COUNTRY MILE.  They will dominate the MAAC for the next decade together assuming they keep the good coaches.  Throw Hofstra in as they have potential to be good soon.

Again if you are going to transfer to the NY area and you want to be part of a winner at a decent to high level take a look, there are not that many choices if much at all???

Quote from: DFF6 on May 14, 2014, 08:47:16 PM

Being honest, I'm nervous about our chances with Lawrence. Why is Hofstra the first stop?  Why are 2 MAC schools and only one BE school on his short list?  He was a top 25 ranked recruit this time last year. Maybe his time at Cincy rattled his confidence and he's looking to play lesser competition to to showcase his talents?  Just saying, something doesn't feel right about this. Really hope I'm wrong.

Those schools have something in common geographically.
 

"I'm leaving UC because my father is ill," Lawrence said in a UC release. "I want to be closer to him as well as be close enough where I can have him and my mom attend my games. We appreciate everyone's support."

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/university-of-cincinnati/2014/05/13/jermaine-lawrence-granted-release-from-uc/9034929/

I get that, but so does LIU, St. Francis, and a bunch of other schools that most of us would say are not worthy of a kid with Lawrence's potential. Yet,  he is entertaining the idea of playing at schools he probably never considered last year as a stud recruit. 

Manhattan and Iona are light years better then those programs.  Plus Manhattan and Iona  have a recent history of getting local high major kids to transfer back to the area. Pankey, Momo Jones etc.

It is actually pretty obvious what schools he would end up considering. 

Quote from: desco80 on May 14, 2014, 08:32:25 PM

Quote from: SJUFAN on May 14, 2014, 07:32:53 PM

Quote from: desco80 on May 14, 2014, 11:02:51 AM

Jordan, Harrison, Lawrence, Thomas, Obekpa ?     
 I think that would be my choice.  But I never underestimate Lav's love for Phil.   Plus, if Christian Jones is as ready to breakout as some think, then I could see him finding a way into the starting lineup as well.

Not sure Lavin is that in love with Phil. Phil wasn't starting at the begining of the season. Phil earned it by default.

Phil was the starter from day 1.   He started the Wisconsin game. 
Lavin loves him.   Branch shouldve been given that opportunity.  He was brought in to be the starting pg, but was never put in that role.

Lavin loves Phil, but Branch was the starter for the opener. He didnt play great against Wisconsin and lavin gave up on him.

Braintrust, I apologize.   You're both correct.
I was looking at the espn box score to refresh my memory, and it says Greene started, but that's wrong.  He didn't. 

Quote from: SJUFAN on May 14, 2014, 07:32:53 PM

Quote from: desco80 on May 14, 2014, 11:02:51 AM

Jordan, Harrison, Lawrence, Thomas, Obekpa ?     
 I think that would be my choice.  But I never underestimate Lav's love for Phil.   Plus, if Christian Jones is as ready to breakout as some think, then I could see him finding a way into the starting lineup as well.

Not sure Lavin is that in love with Phil. Phil wasn't starting at the begining of the season. Phil earned it by default.

Phil was the starter from day 1.   He started the Wisconsin game. 
Lavin loves him.   Branch shouldve been given that opportunity.  He was brought in to be the starting pg, but was never put in that role.

Branch was given the opportunity and he ended up on the bench. He played badly early on. IDK why. Makes zero sense.

Manhattan and Iona are light years better then those programs.  Plus Manhattan and Iona  have a recent history of getting local high major kids to transfer back to the area. Pankey, Momo Jones etc.

It is actually pretty obvious what schools he would end up considering. 

Manhattan and Iona aren't light years ahead of an LIU team that had played in March more than either team has recently. Next year, is a different story. We'll see.

Back around 1980-81 SJU and iona were in a battle for a very highly rated local recruit, 6'8 F Gary Springer. Remember being shocked when he picked Iona. Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself and we can land JL who could turn out to be exactly what we need.

Manhattan doesn't have a scholarship available, but I'm sure they would find 1. Hofstra sucks altogether.  That leaves St. Johns and Iona.

If I were Lavs I would simply show him each team's schedule next year.

Quote from: fordham96 on May 14, 2014, 09:34:45 PM

Manhattan and Iona are light years better then those programs.  Plus Manhattan and Iona  have a recent history of getting local high major kids to transfer back to the area. Pankey, Momo Jones etc.

It is actually pretty obvious what schools he would end up considering. 

Manhattan and Iona aren't light years ahead of an LIU team that had played in March more than either team has recently. Next year, is a different story. We'll see.

Rasheen Davis, AC of Manhattan, is never to be disregarded in my opinion. Still confident we get him though.

Quote from: fordham96 on May 14, 2014, 09:34:45 PM

Manhattan and Iona are light years better then those programs.  Plus Manhattan and Iona  have a recent history of getting local high major kids to transfer back to the area. Pankey, Momo Jones etc.

It is actually pretty obvious what schools he would end up considering. 

Manhattan and Iona aren't light years ahead of an LIU team that had played in March more than either team has recently. Next year, is a different story. We'll see.

Right now they are especially with buzz in the coaching.  Cluess and Masiello are considered real comers.

Manhattan and Iona are light years better then those programs.  Plus Manhattan and Iona  have a recent history of getting local high major kids to transfer back to the area. Pankey, Momo Jones etc.

It is actually pretty obvious what schools he would end up considering. 

Good points. However, Momo wanted to be here but couldn't because of Hicks' presence.

Lets face it, the only way Lawrence is not here is if this so-called handler becomes unbearable again.

Hope the kid has matured a bit and this time around does what is best for himself, which we all know would be playing small forward for St. John's alongside Obekpa and Thomas

Quote from: fordham96 on May 14, 2014, 09:34:45 PM

Manhattan and Iona are light years better then those programs.  Plus Manhattan and Iona  have a recent history of getting local high major kids to transfer back to the area. Pankey, Momo Jones etc.

It is actually pretty obvious what schools he would end up considering. 

Good points. However, Momo wanted to be here but couldn't because of Hicks' presence.

Agreed but he could have gone to Seton Hall (he visited there before he chose Iona).  Yet he still chose Iona.

Again my overall point (not necessarily to Poison but to many who are questioning why SJU is recruiting against the likes of Manhattan, Iona and Hofstra) is after SJU it is real slim pickings in terms of high majors in the NY area worth transferring to especially when you have expectations to play on the next level like Lawrence does.  So Iona and Manhattan become at least on the surface reasonable options after SJU considering where they are now and what they project to be in the immediate future and considering their recent success with high major transfers.  But considering SJU’s relationship with Lawrence already and what they are poised to do in the next few years I think SJU becomes a logical choice.

Zags reporting he is set to visit this weekend.  So my guess is Iona today, Manhattan tomorrow and SJU this weekend and then a decision.