Rysheed Jordan - PG - Vaux Roberts - Philadelphia, PA - ST. JOHN'S

Quote from: redmen4life on April 12, 2013, 04:57:12 PM

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Quote from: redmen4life on April 12, 2013, 04:57:12 PM

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Quote from: redmen4life on April 12, 2013, 04:57:12 PM

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Follow my new backcourt partner @philgreene4 we say turn up next year stjohn!!!!!

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Yeah what he said lol...it doesn't matter if you have one or not for some reason it's not working.

Love that we got sheed and he seems very talented and can become a great player for us but hope we all show some patience and allow him some time to adapt to a much higher level of basketball. Let's also remember that point guard is probably the toughest position to transition to when you go up another level of competition much like quarterback in football. Great to have an uber talent coming in to play the point and because it is the hardest position to adapt to I fully expect and hope sheed is with us for at least 2 seasons.

Thinking of him as a Jason Kidd/Mike Bibby hybrid is keeping my expectations reasonable, right?

Quote from: Celtics11 on April 12, 2013, 05:35:05 PM

Love that we got sheed and he seems very talented and can become a great player for us but hope we all show some patience and allow him some time to adapt to a much higher level of basketball. Let's also remember that point guard is probably the toughest position to transition to when you go up another level of competition much like quarterback in football. Great to have an uber talent coming in to play the point and because it is the hardest position to adapt to I fully expect and hope sheed is with us for at least 2 seasons.

Thinking of him as a Jason Kidd/Mike Bibby hybrid is keeping my expectations reasonable, right?

I'd be happy with a Kendall Williams.  But comparing HS senior years, Rysheed is much better.   The 6'4 190 lb PG won Mountain West Conference MVP this season as a Junior - 29-5 record, 13-3 in conference,  despite the #2 SOS in D-1. 

CR, have Johnnie's ever beaten Ucla out on a player?

CR, have Johnnie's ever beaten Ucla out on a player?

Well, Jim Harrick recruited Felipe (just like everyone else did!).   Went hard after 3 players at that position in that class.  But he REALLY wanted Ricky Price.  "Settled" for 3rd choice Toby Bailey (whom rumor has it was recruited only because he was AAU teammate and friend of Price.   Krzyzewski got stuck with the underachieving Price (lots of reasons but after a fine soph season,  as a junior Price dropped to 6 pts a game, and only 2 a game off the bench as a Sr).  Felipe didn't live up to his hype (no one really could!) but to an outside observer had a pretty decent college career at SJU.   Toby didn't have any hype to live up to, but in his 4 years he went the tourney 4 times, a Sweet 16,  an Elite 8, and scored 26 pts in the '95 title game, winniing the NCAA Championship.  He finished as UCLA's  #4 all time scorer, #5 all time assists, #9 all time steals, #15 all time rebounds.   

The three players best years:

Felipe:  17.8 pts, 5.7 rebs, 2.8 asst, 1.5 stls, 41.1% FG, 30.1% 3s, 75.3% FTs
Bailey:  17.9 pts, 5.9 rebs, 4.8 asst, 1.4 stls, 48.4% FG, 39.5% 3s, 73.7% FTs
RPrice:  14.2 pts, 3.5 rebs, 1.5 asst,  0.6 stls, 43.9% FG, 39.3% 3s, 71.1% FTs

Felipe's the only one I can think of.  I'm sure we had feelers out on several others, but no one else really "targeted" so that you could say one school "beat" the other for the player....

Wayne McKoy '77
Everybody and they brother wanted him.

Wayne McKoy '77
Everybody and they brother wanted him.

* * * * * * * * *   WARNING - DISCUSSION OF UCLA FOLLOWS   * * * * * * * * *

Except that they already had 6'10 David Greenwood, 6'8 Kiki Vandweghe, 7'0 Brett Vroman, 6'10 Darrell Alums, 6'8 James Wilkes on the roster thru at least 1979 in the frontcourt (All 5 would reach the NBA), also HS All American center 6'10 Gig Sims had been sigend the year before, and California player of the year 6'7 Chris Lippert was only a soph (neither lived up to their billing).  It was a crowded frontcourt.  The roster was full.  Future NBA guards  Roy Hamilton, Brad Hollard, Ray Townsend were also locked in on the roster, as were Marv Thomas, Rennie Kelly and Bill Leonard.    Yes, that Bruin squad in 1978 had 8 future NBA players).

Really WANTED Wayne, yes. He'd been targeted as an underclassman.  Bjt the timetable got thrown off when 1975 NCAA Tourney MVP Richard Washington became UCLA's first "early entry", and left after the 1976 season.  Focus changed from recruiting 1977 bigs like McKoy to be frosh in 1978 to the 1976 class, to fill the roster needs in 1977 - and Allums and Sims were signed. 

Then, to top it off, Gene Bartow couldn't take the pressure of following John Wooden and quit after the 1977 season, and former Wooden assistant Gary Cunningham came back to take over in 1978.

"Losing" McKoy was a matter of no scholarships (however as we know that can be "gotten around"), no PT available (McKoy was all world in HS, but he wasn't beating out Greenwood, Vandweghe, Allums, and Vroman - certainly not as a frosh), and the coaching change.

THIS loss (of Rysheed), is the first time the Bruins have lost a player they NEEDED to St Johns.  Bruin fans don't realize it yet.  They've drunk so much of the local media Kool-Aid (Howland abandoned  "local" recruiting in favor of national players and that's what  has "destroyed" UCLA basketball) that they seem to think losing  'Sheed is a good thing, as it gives them a better shot with local 2014 PG  6'0 170 Jordan McLaughlin - who's being heavily pimped by the UCLA SCOUT.Com Gurus.    They don't get that the 6'4 200 lb Rysheed is likely BETTER - and would CERTAINLY be better as a Soph in 2015 than McLaughlin would be as a frosh that year.  Plus, they'd have actually HAD a point guard in 2014.  Unless Steve Alford pulls a rabbit out of his hat, UCLA is going to run a freshman Shooting guard at the PG spot next season (albeit REALLY good freshman shooting guards).

Quote from: Choz4Life on April 13, 2013, 08:32:12 AM

Wayne McKoy '77
Everybody and they brother wanted him.

* * * * * * * * *   WARNING - DISCUSSION OF UCLA FOLLOWS   * * * * * * * * *

Except that they already had 6'10 David Greenwood, 6'8 Kiki Vandweghe, 7'0 Brett Vroman, 6'10 Darrell Alums, 6'8 James Wilkes on the roster thru at least 1979 in the frontcourt (All 5 would reach the NBA), also HS All American center 6'10 Gig Sims had been sigend the year before, and California player of the year 6'7 Chris Lippert was only a soph (neither lived up to their billing).  It was a crowded frontcourt.  The roster was full.  Future NBA guards  Roy Hamilton, Brad Hollard, Ray Townsend were also locked in on the roster, as were Marv Thomas, Rennie Kelly and Bill Leonard.    Yes, that Bruin squad in 1978 had 8 future NBA players).

Really WANTED Wayne, yes. He'd been targeted as an underclassman.  Bjt the timetable got thrown off when 1975 NCAA Tourney MVP Richard Washington became UCLA's first "early entry", and left after the 1976 season.  Focus changed from recruiting 1977 bigs like McKoy to be frosh in 1978 to the 1976 class, to fill the roster needs in 1977 - and Allums and Sims were signed. 

Then, to top it off, Gene Bartow couldn't take the pressure of following John Wooden and quit after the 1977 season, and former Wooden assistant Gary Cunningham came back to take over in 1978.

"Losing" McKoy was a matter of no scholarships (however as we know that can be "gotten around"), no PT available (McKoy was all world in HS, but he wasn't beating out Greenwood, Vandweghe, Allums, and Vroman - certainly not as a frosh), and the coaching change.

THIS loss (of Rysheed), is the first time the Bruins have lost a player they NEEDED to St Johns.  Bruin fans don't realize it yet.  They've drunk so much of the local media Kool-Aid (Howland abandoned  "local" recruiting in favor of national players and that's what  has "destroyed" UCLA basketball) that they seem to think losing  'Sheed is a good thing, as it gives them a better shot with local 2014 PG  6'0 170 Jordan McLaughlin - who's being heavily pimped by the UCLA SCOUT.Com Gurus.    They don't get that the 6'4 200 lb Rysheed is likely BETTER - and would CERTAINLY be better as a Soph in 2015 than McLaughlin would be as a frosh that year.  Plus, they'd have actually HAD a point guard in 2014.  Unless Steve Alford pulls a rabbit out of his hat, UCLA is going to run a freshman Shooting guard at the PG spot next season (albeit REALLY good freshman shooting guards).

I disagree I read some of the UCLA posts and they are not happy they lost Jorden and loosing him to Lavin only makes it worse.

Based on photos, it looks like Sheed put on a good deal of muscle it the last year.  Keep it coming!

Based on photos, it looks like Sheed put on a good deal of muscle it the last year.  Keep it coming!

Settle down there Scotch

Quote from: Marillac on April 13, 2013, 01:25:08 PM

Based on photos, it looks like Sheed put on a good deal of muscle it the last year.  Keep it coming!

Settle down there Scotch

Hahaha this got a chuckle out of me. 

Scotch would have based it on a random encounter on the Vaux Roberts campus, though, and not a photograph.

Why was Sheed not invited to the Jordan Classic?

Why was Sheed not invited to the Jordan Classic?

Because he didn't commit to Kentucky

Why was Sheed not invited to the Jordan Classic?

Only 4 PGs (2 per side) were invited.   All four of the PGs ranked ahead of Rysheed in ESPN's top 100 at the time of the invitations (Harrison, Ennis, Williams-Goss, and Hill) all accepted.  Subsequently, the rankings were revised, and Rysheed moved ahead of Ennis, but that was too late.

Is this saying something about DeAngelo?

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Is this saying something about DeAngelo?

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No

Is Rysheed playing in any allstar games?