Father Harrington

Moose, it seems desperate and is just odd. I am a fan, like Lavin and have no other agenda and I am saying it is weird. Granted I do not follow other teams as I do SJU but I can't remember another coach doing this. Coach K missed an entire year, Duke was on TV every game I don't remember coach K doing it. The calls seem like a desperate  attempt to show all is well when it clearly isn't. A statement saying Coach is cancer free but just needs time to rebuild his strength and he will be back when ready would have been a much better idea.

 Calhoun and Coach K. weren't at a flash point in trying to resurrect their programs when they took time off either. The phone-ins don't bother me at all. They last 5 minutes and it is strictly a PR move.  It makes perfect sense in the current situation.

I hope his recruiting efforts don't impact his recovery time. As the face of SJU basketball,hopefully, he is not recruiting when he should be at home resting.

Coach, blow this thing out once and for all because once you return it will be difficult to dispell rumors of ill health, should you find it necessary to leave again.

Ummm, the calls is important. Trust me.

Important to whom? So say Cal tells Gathers don't go to SJU Lavin is still sick. Gathers can then say he seemed fine on the phone during the game? This whole idea is ridiculous! Making a phone call is not going to prove anything. In fact all it does is draw more attention to the fact he is not there.

Important to whom? So say Cal tells Gathers don't go to SJU Lavin is still sick. Gathers can then say he seemed fine on the phone during the game? This whole idea is ridiculous! Making a phone call is not going to prove anything. In fact all it does is draw more attention to the fact he is not there.

Not at all.  It is Lavin re-assuring that he is fine and just recuperating, not in a state where he isn't in the same capacity as before.  As Choz said, it is important, and I have little doubt that he has some information behind that statement which is why he's reiterating its importance.  Even if it is just important to one recruit, that could really mean a lot moving forward.  Pretty sure Lavin isn't doing it for no reason.

Well hopefully Coach is not like me. See I like to make my evening calls from the John. Though it would be funny if in the middle of his conversation with Dick Vitale you suddenly hear a courtesy flush.

Important to whom? So say Cal tells Gathers don't go to SJU Lavin is still sick. Gathers can then say he seemed fine on the phone during the game? This whole idea is ridiculous! Making a phone call is not going to prove anything. In fact all it does is draw more attention to the fact he is not there.

Son, how long you been on these boards? You know how rumors start? When they is a vacuum of information.

You keep quiet. You leave it to a press release. You keep out of the limelight. You dont address anytin. The RUMORS go into overdrive.

Cant go into a cave on this one. Best thing Lav can do is keep a public face.

I know a lotta young brothers (superior ballers that y'all goin after in, '14, '15, and yes, '16) watchin STJ on the TV and get reassured Lav is there, saying his peace.

Serious yo. I dont want y'all dealin in crisis management anytime soon. As boo say, its simple PR 101.

So again you think a phone call in the middle of the game is reassuring? I disagree. I think the only way the rumors go away is for him to come back healthy once and for all. Anything else is just silly. But hey if it makes some of you guys feel better that is great.

So again you think a phone call in the middle of the game is reassuring? I disagree. I think the only way the rumors go away is for him to come back healthy once and for all. Anything else is just silly. But hey if it makes some of you guys feel better that is great.

You can disagree all you want, but Choz is telling you that youd be wrong and that to some of these kids it certainly does matter.  No doubt the best result will come with Lavin back on the sideline full of energy and a fresh dollop of hair gel.  I think he'll be back real soon.  He knows the rumors and knows how important it is to get back.  At some point, his body and mind will be much better rehabilitated by forming a good nutrition and exercise regimen and getting back to his coaching routine. 

Like I said, I didn't start the rumor. It was on campus already

Some rumors can be substantiated while some cannot. Let's say someone, say a female student, claims MoMo Jones tried to have his way with her, and she resisted, and told her friends, who told other friends, there would be a chain of claims. That the claim would die in the AD's office as it did at Penn State may indicate a cover-up. Now I am not saying the rumor is true but if it were posted on the IONA board it may raise an issue with the Good Christian Fathers running the little school.

Well gee if Choz says I am wrong than I guess I am? So let us recap. Since coach has been making these calls we have lost one of our better players-Nuri and gotten Amir back. Only people who want to engage in a intense version of revisionist history would call that a win. Also unless I am wrong I do not see anyone else having commited? I am not saying that the calls are to blame, but I certainly don't see any proof that they are helping.

There is nothing strange about his call-ins at all.  It might not help greatly but it sure doesn't hurt.

Well gee if Choz says I am wrong than I guess I am? So let us recap. Since coach has been making these calls we have lost one of our better players-Nuri and gotten Amir back. Only people who want to engage in a intense version of revisionist history would call that a win. Also unless I am wrong I do not see anyone else having commited? I am not saying that the calls are to blame, but I certainly don't see any proof that they are helping.

I think the calls are to help reassure kids and keep them in the fold.  I don't think they're intended to be a magic pill designed to lure several instant commitments from players.  The result you're looking for will probably be coming in the spring, but unfortunately none of it will be able to be traced back to these calls.  I guess you'll just have to take the word of the head coach and whomever else felt it necessary to do. 

I don't think the calls had anything to do with Nuri leaving nor Amir getting qualified which was always the plan.  Not every result comes with direct proof.

Quote from: MCNPA on December 22, 2011, 09:43:04 AM

Quote from: we are sju on December 22, 2011, 09:29:11 AM

Baldi, repeatedly questioning the return of someone recovering from cancer is ridiculous, but so is MCNPA blaming Baldi for recruiting issues.

A fan site that gets as many hits as this one does saying Lavin isn't coming back is bad for recruiting.  I've never been one to blame these boards for negatively effecting recruiting overall, but this one is different.  It submarines the efforts of a coach who is out due to cancer.  It is a tactic commonly used by opponents.  Forgive me if I question why an Iona fan is moderating this board, nonetheless spreading misinformation about our coach not coming back. 

There is truth to this. This is part of the reason why I closed the forum off to the public.

Baldi isn't wrong for repeating a rumor but seriously Baldi give it a rest. We know your position on how Lavin is handling this situation, not being here, communication via cell, etc. It's getting to be a broken record. Can we focus our energy on talking about other things?

+1 

Do you mean...to tell me...that Normal people...actually read this drivel?

Wow!  I need to step up my game...bigtime!

I like it when Hollywood calls in to the game from his living room.  I think they should let him call a little play-by-play. 

Where do people get these things. Coach isn't leaving. I do believe he will eventually but not for a looong time

lavin is a professional communicator.  he was in the mainstream media for seven years.  communicators communicate.  his friends in the media seek him out for on-air comments.  he communicates with them.

to compare him with coach k or calhoun as a communicator is ludicrous.  lavin's style is different.  that's all there is to it.

Choz is right with the young guys St. John's is involved with. Ridiculous talent

Quote from: we are sju on December 22, 2011, 11:14:55 AM

Important to whom? So say Cal tells Gathers don't go to SJU Lavin is still sick. Gathers can then say he seemed fine on the phone during the game? This whole idea is ridiculous! Making a phone call is not going to prove anything. In fact all it does is draw more attention to the fact he is not there.

Son, how long you been on these boards? You know how rumors start? When they is a vacuum of information.

You keep quiet. You leave it to a press release. You keep out of the limelight. You dont address anytin. The RUMORS go into overdrive.

Cant go into a cave on this one. Best thing Lav can do is keep a public face.

I know a lotta young brothers (superior ballers that y'all goin after in, '14, '15, and yes, '16) watchin STJ on the TV and get reassured Lav is there, saying his peace.

Serious yo. I dont want y'all dealin in crisis management anytime soon. As boo say, its simple PR 101.

I agree. We don't have the recent success and coach hasn't been here long enough for people to asssume he has set roots down...so this is the only way for him to keep himself somewhat engaged and allay any concerns that prospective recruits might have