Jonathan Severe - SG - Christ the King HS - New York, N.Y. - FORDHAM

Quote from: LJSA on March 26, 2013, 06:36:49 PM

Quote from: RedStormyNight on March 26, 2013, 06:03:22 PM

One thing is certain: NYC players do not want to play here by in large.

How many high-major-level kids does NYC produce these days?

If one team got all the high-major NYC kids and nothing else, they'd be a national title contender every year

In 1990 maybe.  The best players from NY don't even play HS in New York .

One thing is certain: NYC players do not want to play here by in large.

 I don't think it is an anti-St. John's thing. I think kids want to get the hell out of NY, and Happy is right, the majority of high level kids aren't even sticking around NYC for HS

 Harkless didn't seem to mind staying home. 

Quote from: goredmen on March 26, 2013, 07:37:39 PM

Quote from: LJSA on March 26, 2013, 06:36:49 PM

Quote from: RedStormyNight on March 26, 2013, 06:03:22 PM

One thing is certain: NYC players do not want to play here by in large.

How many high-major-level kids does NYC produce these days?

If one team got all the high-major NYC kids and nothing else, they'd be a national title contender every year

In 1990 maybe.  The best players from NY don't even play HS in New York .

if you got the top players from NYC high schools the past 5 years your recruiting classes would look like this:

2012: Omar Calhoun, Daniel Dingle, Thaddeus Hall, Nkereuwem Okoro
2011: Sidiki Johnson, Jermaine Sanders, Ryan Rhoomes, Kadeem Jack
2010: Jayvaughn Pinkston, Shane Southwell
2009: Lance Stephenson, Durand Scott, James Padgett,
2008: Kemba Walker, Sylven Landesberg, Truck Bryant, Erving Walker

So you're saying if one team got all these guys they wouldnt be national championship contenders year in and year out? Not to mention all the talent that is coming in the next few years with Whitehead, Alkins, Santos, McKennon etc.

There is still plenty of talent out here i.e. Lawrence, McCollough, Severe, etc. but none of them want any part of us. I would send teams of researchers to find out why. It's not like we get a decent amount of good NYC players and just miss a few...literally none of the major top 25 talent in NYC wants to come here. Harkless was in the 40's. My question is when can we finally bag a Lawrence or McCollough? We can't keep losing the best in our backyard.

Quote from: Happy on March 26, 2013, 07:50:07 PM

Quote from: goredmen on March 26, 2013, 07:37:39 PM

Quote from: LJSA on March 26, 2013, 06:36:49 PM

Quote from: RedStormyNight on March 26, 2013, 06:03:22 PM

One thing is certain: NYC players do not want to play here by in large.

How many high-major-level kids does NYC produce these days?

If one team got all the high-major NYC kids and nothing else, they'd be a national title contender every year

In 1990 maybe.  The best players from NY don't even play HS in New York .

if you got the top players from NYC high schools the past 5 years your recruiting classes would look like this:

2012: Omar Calhoun, Daniel Dingle, Thaddeus Hall, Nkereuwem Okoro
2011: Sidiki Johnson, Jermaine Sanders, Ryan Rhoomes, Kadeem Jack
2010: Jayvaughn Pinkston, Shane Southwell
2009: Lance Stephenson, Durand Scott, James Padgett,
2008: Kemba Walker, Sylven Landesberg, Truck Bryant, Erving Walker

So you're saying if one team got all these guys they wouldnt be national championship contenders year in and year out? Not to mention all the talent that is coming in the next few years with Whitehead, Alkins, Santos, McKennon etc.

Lamont Jones

Quote from: goredmen on March 26, 2013, 08:23:39 PM

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Quote from: goredmen on March 26, 2013, 07:37:39 PM

Quote from: LJSA on March 26, 2013, 06:36:49 PM

Quote from: RedStormyNight on March 26, 2013, 06:03:22 PM

One thing is certain: NYC players do not want to play here by in large.

How many high-major-level kids does NYC produce these days?

If one team got all the high-major NYC kids and nothing else, they'd be a national title contender every year

In 1990 maybe.  The best players from NY don't even play HS in New York .

if you got the top players from NYC high schools the past 5 years your recruiting classes would look like this:

2012: Omar Calhoun, Daniel Dingle, Thaddeus Hall, Nkereuwem Okoro
2011: Sidiki Johnson, Jermaine Sanders, Ryan Rhoomes, Kadeem Jack
2010: Jayvaughn Pinkston, Shane Southwell
2009: Lance Stephenson, Durand Scott, James Padgett,
2008: Kemba Walker, Sylven Landesberg, Truck Bryant, Erving Walker

So you're saying if one team got all these guys they wouldnt be national championship contenders year in and year out? Not to mention all the talent that is coming in the next few years with Whitehead, Alkins, Santos, McKennon etc.

Lamont Jones

Theres probably a few that I missed. You could also count Russ Smith as he spent his HS years in NYC. NYC is producing a ton of talent year in and year out, maybe not as much as it used to but its still probably the best HS basketball city in the country

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Quote from: LJSA on March 26, 2013, 06:36:49 PM

Quote from: RedStormyNight on March 26, 2013, 06:03:22 PM

One thing is certain: NYC players do not want to play here by in large.

How many high-major-level kids does NYC produce these days?

If one team got all the high-major NYC kids and nothing else, they'd be a national title contender every year

In 1990 maybe.  The best players from NY don't even play HS in New York .

if you got the top players from NYC high schools the past 5 years your recruiting classes would look like this:

2012: Omar Calhoun, Daniel Dingle, Thaddeus Hall, Nkereuwem Okoro
2011: Sidiki Johnson, Jermaine Sanders, Ryan Rhoomes, Kadeem Jack
2010: Jayvaughn Pinkston, Shane Southwell
2009: Lance Stephenson, Durand Scott, James Padgett,
2008: Kemba Walker, Sylven Landesberg, Truck Bryant, Erving Walker

So you're saying if one team got all these guys they wouldnt be national championship contenders year in and year out? Not to mention all the talent that is coming in the next few years with Whitehead, Alkins, Santos, McKennon etc.

Lamont Jones

Theres probably a few that I missed. You could also count Russ Smith as he spent his HS years in NYC. NYC is producing a ton of talent year in and year out, maybe not as much as it used to but its still probably the best HS basketball city in the country

We've had this discussion before.  Your never going to keep them all.  If you keep 1 the one you want then your doing just fine.  We've missed on some.  Lawrence, McCullough.  Pinkston under Norm.

But just remember this kids aren't exactly growing up in Trump Tower.  The idea of them getting away to a green campus somewhere else in the country start adding in factors like HOF coaches, top 25 rankings etc and its pretty easy to see why so many leave. 

In fact now your seeing them leave DURING HS to play HS ball outside NYC.  Times have changes.  Most want to leave.

 Agreed Moose... I would want to leave also.  You can't make kids stay home. 

Wasn't Harkless the best player in NYC?

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Quote from: LJSA on March 26, 2013, 06:36:49 PM

Quote from: RedStormyNight on March 26, 2013, 06:03:22 PM

One thing is certain: NYC players do not want to play here by in large.

How many high-major-level kids does NYC produce these days?

If one team got all the high-major NYC kids and nothing else, they'd be a national title contender every year

In 1990 maybe.  The best players from NY don't even play HS in New York .

if you got the top players from NYC high schools the past 5 years your recruiting classes would look like this:

2012: Omar Calhoun, Daniel Dingle, Thaddeus Hall, Nkereuwem Okoro
2011: Sidiki Johnson, Jermaine Sanders, Ryan Rhoomes, Kadeem Jack
2010: Jayvaughn Pinkston, Shane Southwell
2009: Lance Stephenson, Durand Scott, James Padgett,
2008: Kemba Walker, Sylven Landesberg, Truck Bryant, Erving Walker

So you're saying if one team got all these guys they wouldnt be national championship contenders year in and year out? Not to mention all the talent that is coming in the next few years with Whitehead, Alkins, Santos, McKennon etc.

Lamont Jones

Theres probably a few that I missed. You could also count Russ Smith as he spent his HS years in NYC. NYC is producing a ton of talent year in and year out, maybe not as much as it used to but its still probably the best HS basketball city in the country

We've had this discussion before.  Your never going to keep them all.  If you keep 1 the one you want then your doing just fine.  We've missed on some.  Lawrence, McCullough.  Pinkston under Norm.

But just remember this kids aren't exactly growing up in Trump Tower.  The idea of them getting away to a green campus somewhere else in the country start adding in factors like HOF coaches, top 25 rankings etc and its pretty easy to see why so many leave. 

In fact now your seeing them leave DURING HS to play HS ball outside NYC.  Times have changes.  Most want to leave.

Im not arguing that at all. It would be completely unrealistic to get even a quarter of these guys in this day and age. Im just arguing that there is still a ton of talent playing HS ball in NYC and there always will be

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Quote from: LJSA on March 26, 2013, 06:36:49 PM

Quote from: RedStormyNight on March 26, 2013, 06:03:22 PM

One thing is certain: NYC players do not want to play here by in large.

How many high-major-level kids does NYC produce these days?

If one team got all the high-major NYC kids and nothing else, they'd be a national title contender every year

In 1990 maybe.  The best players from NY don't even play HS in New York .

if you got the top players from NYC high schools the past 5 years your recruiting classes would look like this:

2012: Omar Calhoun, Daniel Dingle, Thaddeus Hall, Nkereuwem Okoro
2011: Sidiki Johnson, Jermaine Sanders, Ryan Rhoomes, Kadeem Jack
2010: Jayvaughn Pinkston, Shane Southwell
2009: Lance Stephenson, Durand Scott, James Padgett,
2008: Kemba Walker, Sylven Landesberg, Truck Bryant, Erving Walker

So you're saying if one team got all these guys they wouldnt be national championship contenders year in and year out? Not to mention all the talent that is coming in the next few years with Whitehead, Alkins, Santos, McKennon etc.

Ummm no. You are grossly overrating the talent. And I'm not sure where you are going with it because we have never got EVERY Ny kid.  Not every kid wants to stay home and by your logic other teams would do the same thing.  Do you think Texas gets every Texas kid?  We have 2 of them .  Also by your list we would be allocated 42 scholarships .  You focus on the best kid every year and you give it a go.  NY is on it's way back I believe .  Hopefully we can grab one or 2 from that list .

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Quote from: RedStormyNight on March 26, 2013, 06:03:22 PM

One thing is certain: NYC players do not want to play here by in large.

How many high-major-level kids does NYC produce these days?

If one team got all the high-major NYC kids and nothing else, they'd be a national title contender every year

In 1990 maybe.  The best players from NY don't even play HS in New York .

if you got the top players from NYC high schools the past 5 years your recruiting classes would look like this:

2012: Omar Calhoun, Daniel Dingle, Thaddeus Hall, Nkereuwem Okoro
2011: Sidiki Johnson, Jermaine Sanders, Ryan Rhoomes, Kadeem Jack
2010: Jayvaughn Pinkston, Shane Southwell
2009: Lance Stephenson, Durand Scott, James Padgett,
2008: Kemba Walker, Sylven Landesberg, Truck Bryant, Erving Walker

So you're saying if one team got all these guys they wouldnt be national championship contenders year in and year out? Not to mention all the talent that is coming in the next few years with Whitehead, Alkins, Santos, McKennon etc.

Lamont Jones

Theres probably a few that I missed. You could also count Russ Smith as he spent his HS years in NYC. NYC is producing a ton of talent year in and year out, maybe not as much as it used to but its still probably the best HS basketball city in the country

We've had this discussion before.  Your never going to keep them all.  If you keep 1 the one you want then your doing just fine.  We've missed on some.  Lawrence, McCullough.  Pinkston under Norm.

But just remember this kids aren't exactly growing up in Trump Tower.  The idea of them getting away to a green campus somewhere else in the country start adding in factors like HOF coaches, top 25 rankings etc and its pretty easy to see why so many leave. 

In fact now your seeing them leave DURING HS to play HS ball outside NYC.  Times have changes.  Most want to leave.

Im not arguing that at all. It would be completely unrealistic to get even a quarter of these guys in this day and age. Im just arguing that there is still a ton of talent playing HS ball in NYC and there always will be

Understood.  Wouldn't say a ton but regardless.  Take this year for example.

21. Jermaine Lawrence- Left Queens for the sticks of NJ
65. Kentan Facey- Long Island
115. Terrance Samuel- City
124. Dayshaun Smith- Left City for Prep School in CT
137. Hassan Martin- City

Rivals doesn't have Severe in their Top 150.  The man who seems to be causing all the hubbub.  To be honest and I know a couple who would agree with me, we are missing out on Smith and Martin more than Severe.  They were both grossly under-recruited.  But Lav and staff are seemingly going only after THE best NYC players as Boo mentioned above as well.  So 5 NY kids in the Top 150.  1 is Long Island 2 cities kids stayed and 2 picked up and left the city.  Just this year and just Rivals 150 as example.  If anything the lower ranked kids are more likely to want to stay home.  But thats not our strategy it seems.

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Quote from: goredmen on March 26, 2013, 07:37:39 PM

Quote from: LJSA on March 26, 2013, 06:36:49 PM

Quote from: RedStormyNight on March 26, 2013, 06:03:22 PM

One thing is certain: NYC players do not want to play here by in large.

How many high-major-level kids does NYC produce these days?

If one team got all the high-major NYC kids and nothing else, they'd be a national title contender every year

In 1990 maybe.  The best players from NY don't even play HS in New York .

if you got the top players from NYC high schools the past 5 years your recruiting classes would look like this:

2012: Omar Calhoun, Daniel Dingle, Thaddeus Hall, Nkereuwem Okoro
2011: Sidiki Johnson, Jermaine Sanders, Ryan Rhoomes, Kadeem Jack
2010: Jayvaughn Pinkston, Shane Southwell
2009: Lance Stephenson, Durand Scott, James Padgett,
2008: Kemba Walker, Sylven Landesberg, Truck Bryant, Erving Walker

So you're saying if one team got all these guys they wouldnt be national championship contenders year in and year out? Not to mention all the talent that is coming in the next few years with Whitehead, Alkins, Santos, McKennon etc.

Ummm no. You are grossly overrating the talent. And I'm not sure where you are going with it because we have never got EVERY Ny kid.  Not every kid wants to stay home and by your logic other teams would do the same thing.  Do you think Texas gets every Texas kid?  We have 2 of them .  Also by your list we would be allocated 42 scholarships .  You focus on the best kid every year and you give it a go.  NY is on it's way back I believe .  Hopefully we can grab one or 2 from that list .

All i said was that if one team got the best players from NYC high schools they'd be national title contenders every year and you said maybe in 1990 but not now. Obviously i know its impossible to get all those guys but you cant look at those guys and tell me they wouldnt compete for national championships if on one team.

It would be very hard to find another city in the country with that much HS hoops talent year in and year out

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Quote from: RedStormyNight on March 26, 2013, 06:03:22 PM

One thing is certain: NYC players do not want to play here by in large.

How many high-major-level kids does NYC produce these days?

If one team got all the high-major NYC kids and nothing else, they'd be a national title contender every year

In 1990 maybe.  The best players from NY don't even play HS in New York .

if you got the top players from NYC high schools the past 5 years your recruiting classes would look like this:

2012: Omar Calhoun, Daniel Dingle, Thaddeus Hall, Nkereuwem Okoro
2011: Sidiki Johnson, Jermaine Sanders, Ryan Rhoomes, Kadeem Jack
2010: Jayvaughn Pinkston, Shane Southwell
2009: Lance Stephenson, Durand Scott, James Padgett,
2008: Kemba Walker, Sylven Landesberg, Truck Bryant, Erving Walker

So you're saying if one team got all these guys they wouldnt be national championship contenders year in and year out? Not to mention all the talent that is coming in the next few years with Whitehead, Alkins, Santos, McKennon etc.

Lamont Jones

Theres probably a few that I missed. You could also count Russ Smith as he spent his HS years in NYC. NYC is producing a ton of talent year in and year out, maybe not as much as it used to but its still probably the best HS basketball city in the country

We've had this discussion before.  Your never going to keep them all.  If you keep 1 the one you want then your doing just fine.  We've missed on some.  Lawrence, McCullough.  Pinkston under Norm.

But just remember this kids aren't exactly growing up in Trump Tower.  The idea of them getting away to a green campus somewhere else in the country start adding in factors like HOF coaches, top 25 rankings etc and its pretty easy to see why so many leave. 

In fact now your seeing them leave DURING HS to play HS ball outside NYC.  Times have changes.  Most want to leave.

Im not arguing that at all. It would be completely unrealistic to get even a quarter of these guys in this day and age. Im just arguing that there is still a ton of talent playing HS ball in NYC and there always will be

Understood.  Wouldn't say a ton but regardless.  Take this year for example.

21. Jermaine Lawrence- Left Queens for the sticks of NJ
65. Kentan Facey- Long Island
115. Terrance Samuel- City
124. Dayshaun Smith- Left City for Prep School in CT
137. Hassan Martin- City

Rivals doesn't have Severe in their Top 150.  The man who seems to be causing all the hubbub.  To be honest and I know a couple who would agree with me, we are missing out on Smith and Martin more than Severe.  They were both grossly under-recruited.  But Lav and staff are seemingly going only after THE best NYC players as Boo mentioned above as well.  So 5 NY kids in the Top 150.  1 is Long Island 2 cities kids stayed and 2 picked up and left the city.  Just this year and just Rivals 150 as example.  If anything the lower ranked kids are more likely to want to stay home.  But thats not our strategy it seems.

Maybe that strategy should be modified. Interesting related article;

“@YahooForde: New column: The Sweet 16 is a 3-star playground and a 5-star ghost town this year. http://yhoo.it/YdVXQS”

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Quote from: RedStormyNight on March 26, 2013, 06:03:22 PM

One thing is certain: NYC players do not want to play here by in large.

How many high-major-level kids does NYC produce these days?

If one team got all the high-major NYC kids and nothing else, they'd be a national title contender every year

In 1990 maybe.  The best players from NY don't even play HS in New York .

if you got the top players from NYC high schools the past 5 years your recruiting classes would look like this:

2012: Omar Calhoun, Daniel Dingle, Thaddeus Hall, Nkereuwem Okoro
2011: Sidiki Johnson, Jermaine Sanders, Ryan Rhoomes, Kadeem Jack
2010: Jayvaughn Pinkston, Shane Southwell
2009: Lance Stephenson, Durand Scott, James Padgett,
2008: Kemba Walker, Sylven Landesberg, Truck Bryant, Erving Walker

So you're saying if one team got all these guys they wouldnt be national championship contenders year in and year out? Not to mention all the talent that is coming in the next few years with Whitehead, Alkins, Santos, McKennon etc.

Ummm no. You are grossly overrating the talent. And I'm not sure where you are going with it because we have never got EVERY Ny kid.  Not every kid wants to stay home and by your logic other teams would do the same thing.  Do you think Texas gets every Texas kid?  We have 2 of them .  Also by your list we would be allocated 42 scholarships .  You focus on the best kid every year and you give it a go.  NY is on it's way back I believe .  Hopefully we can grab one or 2 from that list .

All i said was that if one team got the best players from NYC high schools they'd be national title contenders every year and you said maybe in 1990 but not now. Obviously i know its impossible to get all those guys but you cant look at those guys and tell me they wouldnt compete for national championships if on one team.

It would be very hard to find another city in the country with that much HS hoops talent year in and year out

Do you know how good Rutgers would be if they kept every NJ kid?  Hard to find ?  Pick any city up and down the east coast at the present.  Jersey and Philly for example have better talent year in and out. Like I said NY isn't what it used to be and I said 1990 because that was the real boom in AAU ball.  Before that kids would want to stay home because they didn't know anything different.  The traveling AAU team introduced these kids to different cities , different girls and a different way of life.

I can't tell because of the damn quote function.. But whoever posted that we are missing out on Scoochie and Martin more than Severe has it dead on.  As far as need a slippery point guard and active motor forward who dunks everything would be just what we need.

I can't tell because of the damn quote function.. But whoever posted that we are missing out on Scoochie and Martin more than Severe has it dead on.  As far as need a slippery point guard and active motor forward who dunks everything would be just what we need.

Plus scoochie is a pretty damn cool nick name

For purposes of Lavin and Co., you can only focus on the 2011 and 2012 classes, plus anyone who backed out of a commitment or was not signed when he took over in 2010. 

2011 - We got Harkless, who was the best player IMO. No one had a problem with the guys we signed that year.

2012 - We got Obekpa.  I think that either him or Calhoun will end up being the best out of that group.  I would have loved Calhoun too, but he picked UCONN.  We also picked up Felix who might be a nice 4 year player.  Jack couldn't come here because of Hicks.  And we lost out on MoMo as a transfer because of Hicks.

2013 -- We missed on Lawrence, who probably will be the best player.

2014 - We missed on CM, but that could change.  Hopefully we get Carrington.

 Nice layout there PrJohnnies...  With that it is pretty clear that the recruiting has been very good since Steve took over the reigns.  The results on the court may not have been optimum to this point, but NO ONE was second guessing any of theses kids when they signed on, quite the opposite as a matter of fact.

 Now the roster needs to be fined tuned, which I hope is the objective. 

 Criticize the in-game coaching, the execution of the players ( insert joke), and the lack of offensive scheme all you want, it's all fair game.   To criticize the recruiting is , IMO, a huge instance of monday morning quarterbacking..

 Severe isn't even a top 150?  I didn't even know that.  That is nuts.  Everyone is sweating him like he's Marbury or something.  He may very well turn out to be a great player,  but the staff decided to focus their efforts on a top 15 kid ( Jordan).  Should we really be killing them for choosing a 5 star recruit over a top 150 ?

 Lawrence chose Cincy over STJ.   Can anyone explain that one?

 McCullough chose Cuse.  What are you going to do? They are one of the best programs in the country with a HOF coach and you get to play in front of 30k on the regular basis.  Oh well..

Nice layout there PrJohnnies...  With that it is pretty clear that the recruiting has been very good since Steve took over the reigns.  The results on the court may not have been optimum to this point, but NO ONE was second guessing any of theses kids when they signed on, quite the opposite as a matter of fact.

 Now the roster needs to be fined tuned, which I hope is the objective. 

 Criticize the in-game coaching, the execution of the players ( insert joke), and the lack of offensive scheme all you want, it's all fair game.   To criticize the recruiting is , IMO, a huge instance of monday morning quarterbacking..

 Severe isn't even a top 150?  I didn't even know that.  That is nuts.  Everyone is sweating him like he's Marbury or something.  He may very well turn out to be a great player,  but the staff decided to focus their efforts on a top 15 kid ( Jordan).  Should we really be killing them for choosing a 5 star recruit over a top 150 ?

 Lawrence chose Cincy over STJ.   Can anyone explain that one?

 McCullough chose Cuse.  What are you going to do? They are one of the best programs in the country with a HOF coach and you get to play in front of 30k on the regular basis.  Oh well..

Good post

Just wanna say how boo has become the authoritative voice of reason on this here board.