Jonathan Severe - SG - Christ the King HS - New York, N.Y. - FORDHAM

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Re: Jonathan Severe - SG - Christ the King HS - New York, N.Y.
« Reply #460 on: March 26, 2013, 10:50:00 PM »
There is still plenty of talent out here i.e. Lawrence, McCollough, Severe, etc. but none of them want any part of us. I would send teams of researchers to find out why. It's not like we get a decent amount of good NYC players and just miss a few...literally none of the major top 25 talent in NYC wants to come here. Harkless was in the 40's. My question is when can we finally bag a Lawrence or McCollough? We can't keep losing the best in our backyard.

You really need researchers to tell you that we haven't been winning, therefore...?

It is especially easy for locals to view us as irrelevant because they are here and are reminded of the losses from local sports coverage.  Look at the s hools listed by the top 25 kids.  They all have the same 7-8 programs, with maybe a local program listed.  They seldom go to the local schools unless they are one of the elite schools.  EVERY top kid lists Kentucky, whether they've been contacted or not.

Re: Jonathan Severe - SG - Christ the King HS - New York, N.Y.
« Reply #461 on: March 26, 2013, 11:33:59 PM »
There is still plenty of talent out here i.e. Lawrence, McCollough, Severe, etc. but none of them want any part of us. I would send teams of researchers to find out why. It's not like we get a decent amount of good NYC players and just miss a few...literally none of the major top 25 talent in NYC wants to come here. Harkless was in the 40's. My question is when can we finally bag a Lawrence or McCollough? We can't keep losing the best in our backyard.

You really need researchers to tell you that we haven't been winning, therefore...?

It is especially easy for locals to view us as irrelevant because they are here and are reminded of the losses from local sports coverage.  Look at the s hools listed by the top 25 kids.  They all have the same 7-8 programs, with maybe a local program listed.  They seldom go to the local schools unless they are one of the elite schools.  EVERY top kid lists Kentucky, whether they've been contacted or not.

Not every recruit cares if they go to the most winningest program...exhibit A is Jermaine Lawrence. Even in a terrible year we finished about the same as them. They are only going to get worse next year losing Wright who is probably their best player, then Kilpatrick will be gone after that.

So unless Lawrence is a 1 and done he will be on a bad Cincy team his soph year. I would argue that our roster is more stacked than Cincy's for next year assuming everyone is back and we would have been ready to win now when he came here. He joins Cincy when they are falling. From Sweet 16 last year, to ranked #14, to falling apart, barely making the tourney unranked and losing 1st round to Creighton. Now they lose a huge piece in Wright. We have the more talented squad and we should do better than them next year. Look at Aquille Carr...he was a beast of a recruit and he committed to Seton Hall before everything went downhill for him. Great local players DO stay loyal sometimes.

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Re: Jonathan Severe - SG - Christ the King HS - New York, N.Y.
« Reply #462 on: March 26, 2013, 11:38:13 PM »
There is still plenty of talent out here i.e. Lawrence, McCollough, Severe, etc. but none of them want any part of us. I would send teams of researchers to find out why. It's not like we get a decent amount of good NYC players and just miss a few...literally none of the major top 25 talent in NYC wants to come here. Harkless was in the 40's. My question is when can we finally bag a Lawrence or McCollough? We can't keep losing the best in our backyard.

You really need researchers to tell you that we haven't been winning, therefore...?

It is especially easy for locals to view us as irrelevant because they are here and are reminded of the losses from local sports coverage.  Look at the s hools listed by the top 25 kids.  They all have the same 7-8 programs, with maybe a local program listed.  They seldom go to the local schools unless they are one of the elite schools.  EVERY top kid lists Kentucky, whether they've been contacted or not.

Not every recruit cares if they go to the most winningest program...exhibit A is Jermaine Lawrence. Even in a terrible year we finished about the same as them. They are only going to get worse next year losing Wright who is probably their best player, then Kilpatrick will be gone after that.

So unless Lawrence is a 1 and done he will be on a bad Cincy team his soph year. I would argue that our roster is more stacked than Cincy's for next year assuming everyone is back and we would have been ready to win now when he came here. He joins Cincy when they are falling. From Sweet 16 last year, to ranked #14, to falling apart, barely making the tourney unranked and losing 1st round to Creighton. Now they lose a huge piece in Wright. We have the more talented squad and we should do better than them next year. Look at Aquille Carr...he was a beast of a recruit and he committed to Seton Hall before everything went downhill for him. Great local players DO stay loyal sometimes.

They danced.  We didn't.  That isn't 'about' the same, no matter how you skin the cat.
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Re: Jonathan Severe - SG - Christ the King HS - New York, N.Y.
« Reply #463 on: March 27, 2013, 03:59:36 AM »
nice to come back after 2 days and see you guys stirring the pot on the NYC talent , and discussing how good my boy severe is. gotta love it! and shoutout to moose for killing my 15 seconds of fame before it even begun. the kid is gonna be dynamite in college.

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« Reply #464 on: March 27, 2013, 07:11:14 AM »
nice to come back after 2 days and see you guys stirring the pot on the NYC talent , and discussing how good my boy severe is. gotta love it! and shoutout to moose for killing my 15 seconds of fame before it even begun. the kid is gonna be dynamite in college.

Depending where he goes I think he can be good in college but it won't be likely until Jr year if its high level school
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« Reply #465 on: March 27, 2013, 07:50:31 AM »
Having only seen him a few times, I agree it will take time for him to become a solid college player. Expect same learning curve with Carrington if we get him. Hopefully Carrington's shooting improves. Not there now IMO.

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« Reply #466 on: March 27, 2013, 07:55:46 AM »
Look at Aquille Carr...he was a beast of a recruit and he committed to Seton Hall before everything went downhill for him. Great local players DO stay loyal sometimes.

What does Aquille Carr verballing to SHU have to do with this conversation. He was a Baltimore kid who committed to an NJ school..?

Re: Jonathan Severe - SG - Christ the King HS - New York, N.Y.
« Reply #467 on: March 27, 2013, 08:11:47 AM »
Look at Aquille Carr...he was a beast of a recruit and he committed to Seton Hall before everything went downhill for him. Great local players DO stay loyal sometimes.

What does Aquille Carr verballing to SHU have to do with this conversation. He was a Baltimore kid who committed to an NJ school..?

...knowing that his academics left him few choices.  What big schools offered Aquille?

Re: Jonathan Severe - SG - Christ the King HS - New York, N.Y.
« Reply #468 on: March 27, 2013, 08:13:44 AM »
As far as Jermaine Lawrence, I'm not sure he just picked Cinci over us because he felt it was a better fit.  There's more to the story than that---and there are already romors that he may do a year of prep (not because he needs it academically).

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Re: Jonathan Severe - SG - Christ the King HS - New York, N.Y.
« Reply #469 on: March 27, 2013, 08:15:37 AM »
nice to come back after 2 days and see you guys stirring the pot on the NYC talent , and discussing how good my boy severe is. gotta love it! and shoutout to moose for killing my 15 seconds of fame before it even begun. the kid is gonna be dynamite in college.

Depending where he goes I think he can be good in college but it won't be likely until Jr year if its high level school
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« Reply #470 on: March 27, 2013, 08:53:16 AM »
Just wanna say how boo has become the authoritative voice of reason on this here board.

 While I appreciate the compliment, it doesn't say much for the overall mental stability of the board...

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Re: Jonathan Severe - SG - Christ the King HS - New York, N.Y.
« Reply #471 on: March 27, 2013, 09:58:59 AM »
“@ctkcoachjarbs: Congratulations to @Jsevere23 for being named TRI-STATE POY. Well deserved and first one in school history.”

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Re: Jonathan Severe - SG - Christ the King HS - New York, N.Y.
« Reply #472 on: March 27, 2013, 02:11:11 PM »
“@nydnmabramson: Christ the King senior Jon Severe and Jr. big man Adonis Delarosa are currently meeting with Pitt coach Jamie Dixon at school, per Severe.”

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« Reply #473 on: March 27, 2013, 04:14:35 PM »
“@nydnmabramson: Christ the King senior Jon Severe and Jr. big man Adonis Delarosa are currently meeting with Pitt coach Jamie Dixon at school, per Severe.”

Awesome a 3 for 1 package deal :)

Re: Jonathan Severe - SG - Christ the King HS - New York, N.Y.
« Reply #474 on: March 27, 2013, 04:19:59 PM »
Where is Lavin?

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« Reply #475 on: March 27, 2013, 04:25:15 PM »
“@nydnmabramson: Christ the King senior Jon Severe and Jr. big man Adonis Delarosa are currently meeting with Pitt coach Jamie Dixon at school, per Severe.”

Awesome a 3 for 1 package deal :)

Ha! Adonis is a house!

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Re: Jonathan Severe - SG - Christ the King HS - New York, N.Y.
« Reply #476 on: March 27, 2013, 07:07:01 PM »
Where is Lavin?

 Not recruiting this kid.. 

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Re: Jonathan Severe - SG - Christ the King HS - New York, N.Y.
« Reply #477 on: March 27, 2013, 09:11:00 PM »
Saw severe tonight, I change my mind he should go A-10 and be a 14-18 ppg player from day one. Going to a big school will slow the process down, with that said this kid is big time.

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Re: Jonathan Severe - SG - Christ the King HS - New York, N.Y.
« Reply #478 on: March 27, 2013, 09:14:52 PM »
Saw severe tonight, I change my mind he should go A-10 and be a 14-18 ppg player from day one. Going to a big school will slow the process down, with that said this kid is big time.

I've been saying that for months man. :).   Saying that he should go A 10 was never a slight on his ability . 


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Re: Jonathan Severe - SG - Christ the King HS - New York, N.Y.
« Reply #479 on: March 27, 2013, 09:17:24 PM »
Saw severe tonight, I change my mind he should go A-10 and be a 14-18 ppg player from day one. Going to a big school will slow the process down, with that said this kid is big time.

I've been saying that for months man. :).   Saying that he should go A 10 was never a slight on his ability .
Stood next to him , him being more close to 6'0 even then the listed 6'3 was the mind changer.