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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #100 on: February 10, 2012, 11:05:50 AM »
Was checking ESPN for the box score and under the news section there was an article by the New Yorker about SJBB falling apart.
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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #101 on: February 10, 2012, 11:20:50 AM »
Quote from: ras on February 10, 2012, 11:05:50 AM
Was checking ESPN for the box score and under the news section there was an article by the New Yorker about SJBB falling apart.

Just read the article. It's a piece of s**t.  Thankfully, most of our recruiting targets are not reading the New Yorker, but it still sucks to see such negativity in a publication that doesn't attempt to even the scale with ANY positives about the program. Here's a link if you want to waste a minute of your life:

http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2012/02/st-johns-is-collapsing.html
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ras

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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #102 on: February 10, 2012, 12:17:32 PM »
Quote from: DFF6 on February 10, 2012, 11:20:50 AM
Quote from: ras on February 10, 2012, 11:05:50 AM
Was checking ESPN for the box score and under the news section there was an article by the New Yorker about SJBB falling apart.

Just read the article. It's a piece of s**t.  Thankfully, most of our recruiting targets are not reading the New Yorker, but it still sucks to see such negativity in a publication that doesn't attempt to even the scale with ANY positives about the program. Here's a link if you want to waste a minute of your life:

http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2012/02/st-johns-is-collapsing.html
The recruits do read ESPN and these sites, but it doesnt take a genious to see the article is a one sided piece of s..t as you said.
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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #103 on: February 10, 2012, 01:39:28 PM »
Quote from: DFF6 on February 10, 2012, 11:20:50 AM
Quote from: ras on February 10, 2012, 11:05:50 AM
Was checking ESPN for the box score and under the news section there was an article by the New Yorker about SJBB falling apart.

Just read the article. It's a piece of s**t.  Thankfully, most of our recruiting targets are not reading the New Yorker, but it still sucks to see such negativity in a publication that doesn't attempt to even the scale with ANY positives about the program. Here's a link if you want to waste a minute of your life:

http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2012/02/st-johns-is-collapsing.html

Gee, I wonder where these "journalists" get their motivation?  All these idiots that call themselves fans of our program running around and posting like the sky is falling everytime something bad or odd happens.  We landed a top 50 PG LAST MONTH.  Who cares if our last scholarship player off the bench got scared off?

Half the nice persons that post this way then give praise to Ed Cooley.  Ed Cooley won't be working as a head coach when CBS is playing a montage of the struggles our freshman and their cancer-affected coach went through this season on their way to earning a spot in the 2015 Final Four.  Sampson is not going to Providence.  Cooley can't coach his way out of a paper bag...Providence is 2-10 in the league, lost to us by TWENTY-effing-FOUR, and their best player is a freshman that plays the same position as Sampson.
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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #104 on: February 10, 2012, 02:05:44 PM »
wish anyone could be more optomistivc again
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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #105 on: February 10, 2012, 11:57:11 PM »
Quote from: we are sju on February 10, 2012, 09:35:49 AM
He discussed it on TV a few weeks ago.  He said that coaching a game took more of a toll on his recovery than sitting on a plane or in a gym.
He had his set back from trying to coach games too soon.  He then found that he could do the recruiting without harming his recovery - much to the dismay of other BE fans.

I am a Lavin fan! 100%! I am eternally grateful to him from rescuing us from Norm. Now with that being said some of you are clearly insane! Losses were expected this season and so were some blowouts. If you add up everything else that has happened this season has been a disaster. "Dismay of other BE fans" lol. We barely have more wins than players.

Was referring the point that fans of other BE programs are annoyed that he is recruiting while their coaches are coaching games.  The statement refers strictly to recruiting.
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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #106 on: February 12, 2012, 01:25:53 PM »
Quote from: we are sju on February 10, 2012, 09:35:49 AM
He discussed it on TV a few weeks ago.  He said that coaching a game took more of a toll on his recovery than sitting on a plane or in a gym.
He had his set back from trying to coach games too soon.  He then found that he could do the recruiting without harming his recovery - much to the dismay of other BE fans.

I am a Lavin fan! 100%! I am eternally grateful to him from rescuing us from Norm. Now with that being said some of you are clearly insane! Losses were expected this season and so were some blowouts. If you add up everything else that has happened this season has been a disaster. "Dismay of other BE fans" lol. We barely have more wins than players.
The coaching setback was several weeks ago.  I've traveled on the job and learned to hate it.  There's just noplace like home.  I don't know but I believe Steve's psyche is in very fragile shape after what he went through and that affects his thought patterns.  He's just uncomfortable being seen at less than 100% by thousands rather than a recruit and his parents.  I hope he's getting counseling for that because attitude is important during recovery.  There re two issues here - the health of the coach and that of the program.  Sorry but I have my doubts about both right now.....
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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #107 on: February 12, 2012, 07:28:51 PM »
Quote from: bobre45 on February 12, 2012, 01:25:53 PM
Quote from: we are sju on February 10, 2012, 09:35:49 AM
He discussed it on TV a few weeks ago.  He said that coaching a game took more of a toll on his recovery than sitting on a plane or in a gym.
He had his set back from trying to coach games too soon.  He then found that he could do the recruiting without harming his recovery - much to the dismay of other BE fans.

I am a Lavin fan! 100%! I am eternally grateful to him from rescuing us from Norm. Now with that being said some of you are clearly insane! Losses were expected this season and so were some blowouts. If you add up everything else that has happened this season has been a disaster. "Dismay of other BE fans" lol. We barely have more wins than players.
The coaching setback was several weeks ago.  I've traveled on the job and learned to hate it.  There's just noplace like home.  I don't know but I believe Steve's psyche is in very fragile shape after what he went through and that affects his thought patterns.  He's just uncomfortable being seen at less than 100% by thousands rather than a recruit and his parents.  I hope he's getting counseling for that because attitude is important during recovery.  There re two issues here - the health of the coach and that of the program.  Sorry but I have my doubts about both right now.....
Why put it out there on a public board what your guessing about Steve's psyche and your hopes that he is getting counseling? If your sorry about your doubts, why put them out there? Your talking about Steve is creepy, and if a family member of his reads that SJU fans are speculating about his psyche and hoping he's getting help, they might figure thats being to invasive.   
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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #108 on: February 12, 2012, 08:38:44 PM »
Quote from: DFF6 on February 10, 2012, 11:20:50 AM
Quote from: ras on February 10, 2012, 11:05:50 AM
Was checking ESPN for the box score and under the news section there was an article by the New Yorker about SJBB falling apart.

Just read the article. It's a piece of s**t.  Thankfully, most of our recruiting targets are not reading the New Yorker, but it still sucks to see such negativity in a publication that doesn't attempt to even the scale with ANY positives about the program. Here's a link if you want to waste a minute of your life:

http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2012/02/st-johns-is-collapsing.html
just left my comment at the bottom of the article :)
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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #109 on: February 12, 2012, 08:48:34 PM »
Quote from: bobre45 on February 12, 2012, 01:25:53 PM

 I've traveled on the job and learned to hate it.  There's just noplace like home. 

 I'm not sure walking between the register and the fry grill constitutes business travel.

And although you may have hated being away, I'm sure your family loved having you gone.
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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #110 on: February 12, 2012, 09:02:36 PM »
Quote from: LJSA on February 12, 2012, 08:48:34 PM
Quote from: bobre45 on February 12, 2012, 01:25:53 PM

 I've traveled on the job and learned to hate it.  There's just noplace like home. 

 I'm not sure walking between the register and the fry grill constitutes business travel.

And although you may have hated being away, I'm sure your family loved having you gone.

 :2funny:
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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #111 on: February 13, 2012, 07:00:44 PM »
Quote from: bobre45 on February 12, 2012, 01:25:53 PM
Quote from: we are sju on February 10, 2012, 09:35:49 AM
He discussed it on TV a few weeks ago.  He said that coaching a game took more of a toll on his recovery than sitting on a plane or in a gym.
He had his set back from trying to coach games too soon.  He then found that he could do the recruiting without harming his recovery - much to the dismay of other BE fans.

I am a Lavin fan! 100%! I am eternally grateful to him from rescuing us from Norm. Now with that being said some of you are clearly insane! Losses were expected this season and so were some blowouts. If you add up everything else that has happened this season has been a disaster. "Dismay of other BE fans" lol. We barely have more wins than players.
The coaching setback was several weeks ago.  I've traveled on the job and learned to hate it.  There's just noplace like home.  I don't know but I believe Steve's psyche is in very fragile shape after what he went through and that affects his thought patterns.  He's just uncomfortable being seen at less than 100% by thousands rather than a recruit and his parents.  I hope he's getting counseling for that because attitude is important during recovery.  There re two issues here - the health of the coach and that of the program.  Sorry but I have my doubts about both right now.....
WOW. There are a lot of posts from Bobre to choose from for the craziest I've ever seen ( and to be fair has been right once and awhile like after the St Francis/Norm debacle )

But this one takes the cake. WOW. OMG WOW I don't even know what to say this one is so crazy
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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #112 on: February 13, 2012, 07:31:56 PM »
Quote from: bobre45 on February 12, 2012, 01:25:53 PM
Quote from: we are sju on February 10, 2012, 09:35:49 AM
He discussed it on TV a few weeks ago.  He said that coaching a game took more of a toll on his recovery than sitting on a plane or in a gym.
He had his set back from trying to coach games too soon.  He then found that he could do the recruiting without harming his recovery - much to the dismay of other BE fans.

I am a Lavin fan! 100%! I am eternally grateful to him from rescuing us from Norm. Now with that being said some of you are clearly insane! Losses were expected this season and so were some blowouts. If you add up everything else that has happened this season has been a disaster. "Dismay of other BE fans" lol. We barely have more wins than players.
The coaching setback was several weeks ago.  I've traveled on the job and learned to hate it.  There's just noplace like home.  I don't know but I believe Steve's psyche is in very fragile shape after what he went through and that affects his thought patterns.  He's just uncomfortable being seen at less than 100% by thousands rather than a recruit and his parents.  I hope he's getting counseling for that because attitude is important during recovery.  There re two issues here - the health of the coach and that of the program.  Sorry but I have my doubts about both right now.....

Wow.  Why are you creating a mystery where there is none?  There are two perfectly sound reasons coach isn't on the sideline.  Debate the second factor if you think it's a mistake, but there's really no question why coach isn't on the sidelines.  It's a combination of the following:

1)  He had surgery.  It has side-effects.  (see Choz and MCNPA's posts)
2) We have 6 players.  Six.   Basketball is played 5 on 5, think coach might be prioritizing a bit?   Just maybe?

But please, leave the psycho-analysis off the board.  Because there is simply no evidence of what you are theorizing.
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Chilleb

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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #113 on: March 05, 2012, 06:50:28 PM »
2012 mount Vernon guard Isaiah Cousins recruiting is picking up big time, just was offered by Oklahoma, Xavier and south Carolina. If where offering guys like Thaddeus Hall who might not even qualify , where are we at for guys like this??
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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #114 on: March 05, 2012, 09:00:48 PM »
I'm hoping that maybe we will see some interest in Leroy Fludd but doubt that is happening
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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #115 on: March 05, 2012, 09:16:57 PM »
Quote from: Redstormy80 on March 05, 2012, 09:00:48 PM
I'm hoping that maybe we will see some interest in Leroy Fludd but doubt that is happening
I doubt it, Leroy is a great kid but he's not a big east talent
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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #116 on: March 05, 2012, 09:23:00 PM »
Quote from: Chilleb on March 05, 2012, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: Redstormy80 on March 05, 2012, 09:00:48 PM
I'm hoping that maybe we will see some interest in Leroy Fludd but doubt that is happening
I doubt it, Leroy is a great kid but he's not a big east talent

You're probably right, i've only seen a couple games from him but I think he has some diamond in the ruff qualities in him. If things dont fall through I wouldn't mind seeing him on the team as someone who provides depth and can be a nice role player
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Chilleb

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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #117 on: March 05, 2012, 09:29:05 PM »
Quote from: Redstormy80 on March 05, 2012, 09:23:00 PM
Quote from: Chilleb on March 05, 2012, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: Redstormy80 on March 05, 2012, 09:00:48 PM
I'm hoping that maybe we will see some interest in Leroy Fludd but doubt that is happening
I doubt it, Leroy is a great kid but he's not a big east talent

You're probably right, i've only seen a couple games from him but I think he has some diamond in the ruff qualities in him. If things dont fall through I wouldn't mind seeing him on the team as someone who provides depth and can be a nice role player

I def agree with the diamond in the ruff analogy, he has a great motor and a big heart. He reminds m of Ryan Pearson a senior at George mason right now. He budded into a terrific mid major player. But I'm really hoping the staff sticks there nose in the Isaiah cousins recruitment. Lavin offering a "decent" player in Thaddeus hall who might not even qualify scares me. The staff continues to talk a good one but no commits and offering Hall I don't understand. He is a bottom of the barrel big east talent IMO.
« Last Edit: March 05, 2012, 09:29:48 PM by Chilleb »
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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #118 on: March 05, 2012, 09:36:29 PM »
Quote from: Chilleb on March 05, 2012, 09:29:05 PM
Quote from: Redstormy80 on March 05, 2012, 09:23:00 PM
Quote from: Chilleb on March 05, 2012, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: Redstormy80 on March 05, 2012, 09:00:48 PM
I'm hoping that maybe we will see some interest in Leroy Fludd but doubt that is happening
I doubt it, Leroy is a great kid but he's not a big east talent

You're probably right, i've only seen a couple games from him but I think he has some diamond in the ruff qualities in him. If things dont fall through I wouldn't mind seeing him on the team as someone who provides depth and can be a nice role player

I def agree with the diamond in the ruff analogy, he has a great motor and a big heart. He reminds m of Ryan Pearson a senior at George mason right now. He budded into a terrific mid major player. But I'm really hoping the staff sticks there nose in the Isaiah cousins recruitment. Lavin offering a "decent" player in Thaddeus hall who might not even qualify scares me. The staff continues to talk a good one but no commits and offering Hall I don't understand. He is a bottom of the barrel big east talent IMO.

I respectfully disagree with your last sentence.  However I do agree it is a waste to offer if he has no chance to qualify. 
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Re: Lavin Hard on the Recruiting Trail
« Reply #119 on: March 05, 2012, 09:57:09 PM »
Quote from: Happy on March 05, 2012, 09:36:29 PM
Quote from: Chilleb on March 05, 2012, 09:29:05 PM
Quote from: Redstormy80 on March 05, 2012, 09:23:00 PM
Quote from: Chilleb on March 05, 2012, 09:16:57 PM
Quote from: Redstormy80 on March 05, 2012, 09:00:48 PM
I'm hoping that maybe we will see some interest in Leroy Fludd but doubt that is happening
I doubt it, Leroy is a great kid but he's not a big east talent

You're probably right, i've only seen a couple games from him but I think he has some diamond in the ruff qualities in him. If things dont fall through I wouldn't mind seeing him on the team as someone who provides depth and can be a nice role player

I def agree with the diamond in the ruff analogy, he has a great motor and a big heart. He reminds m of Ryan Pearson a senior at George mason right now. He budded into a terrific mid major player. But I'm really hoping the staff sticks there nose in the Isaiah cousins recruitment. Lavin offering a "decent" player in Thaddeus hall who might not even qualify scares me. The staff continues to talk a good one but no commits and offering Hall I don't understand. He is a bottom of the barrel big east talent IMO.

I respectfully disagree with your last sentence.  However I do agree it is a waste to offer if he has no chance to qualify. 

Especially after all we went thru during the summer with all the non-qualifiers, but let's talk basketball a bit. if Hall isn't a lower tier big east player then what is he? Is he a immediate impact player? What position would he even play? He certainly dosent fit the mold of wing forwards lavin has already assembled and thats what he plays now in highschool. Cousins is about the same size with better ball skills and off hand, and can defend both guard positions; thus I'm in favor.
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