Zags poll for BE COY

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Marillac

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Re: Zags poll for BE COY
« Reply #20 on: February 29, 2012, 10:13:42 AM »
Boheim is coach of the year hands down, if not him then Brey for making most out of nothing.

Nobody has more to work with than JB.  It's almost silly the size and depth be has.  He has a 1st rounder coming off the bench.

Very wins every year it seems.  They are only a little better than I projected them anyway.  Heath is hands down the coach of the year to me. Jt3 after that...then Dunlap.

He recruited that depth, what he does not get credit for it?

And he is 28-1 for crying out loud, I don't care if you have an NBA starting 5, that is tremendous.

What no Mike Brey?  Remember he doesn't have the benefit of coaching Ryan Humphrey or Troy Murphy.

They are right where I posted they would be when Baldi projected them 12th...I said that was ridiculous with the talent they have returning and that they should be a top 25 team.  Brey just reloads every year.  He's a good coach, but he's already won the award a few times.  He gets underrated every year because fans and writers don't understand the value of experience.  Brey always has guys that put up modest #'s as underclassmen ready to take over for their departed teammates.  To me the award is more about coaching and what you do with the talent you have. 

Besides Brey has won the thing like three times (off the top of my head) already and he's not THAT good of a coach.  Heath has done a fantastic job this year with what he has.  He's taken over a perennial loser and put them at the top of one of the most competitive conferences in the country.  JT3 has been impressive as well.  I feel like anyone could have coached that Syracuse team...the talent, depth, and size of that squad is astounding.  Yet, I bet they underperform again in the tournament.

Dude that is not what you said about Brey 2years ago.

More importantly there is NO One who thought after losing Abromaitis and Katenda that he would have them on the verge of a Double Bye, NO ONE.  As for experience he has one of the most inexperienced backcourts in the BE.  And Brey has won it 3 times, not sure why that matters if he did the best job again.

Secondly you did not have Syracuse at 28-1.  You did not have Fab Melo as having this much of an impact this year.  Right Boeheim just rolls out the balls.

And Georgetown has terrific talent, most certainly MORE then Notre Dame.  I am sure you would trade Henry Sims for Jack Cooley.

You can make the case for JTIII, Brey, Buzz Williams (done a fanatastic job) and Boeheim.  I could make the case for all of them.  But to dismiss people like Boeheim and Brey for those reasons first off are not true and are ridiculous.


First of all, are you seriously arguing with my opinion? LOL

Second, for your convenience, here is the link to the series of posts I said ND would be  top 25 team:  http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=5816.0
I said "I just don't see how this isn't a top 25-30 team. For Baldi to predict them to come in 12th in the conference is just foolish." "They will be absolutely HUGE and they can all shoot and pass.  Atkins will be better tan Tory Jackson IMO and with him running point I see no reason why this can't be a typical Brey-coached ND squad.  This is a tournament team IMO."

Third, I didn't think Brey should have won two years ago either, so I'm not sure who you are confusing me with.  Brey winning a fourth coach of the year award would be ridiculous IMO.  He's a good coach, but he's not COY 4/11 years good.  To me that should be reserved for remarkable performances.  It's tough to say how one should consider past awards in this, but I feel it should be a factor. 
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