Moe and the 2012 Draft

Anyone know if Moe was invited to the Green Room?  If not, will he be attending anyway since its in the NY area?

No list seems to be out there just yet.  Only thing for certain is Sullinger wasn't invited supposedly.

http://espn.go.com/nba/draft2012/story/_/id/8094012/2012-nba-draft-former-ohio-state-bucketes-star-jared-sullinger-not-invited-draft

But weather he should have returned for another year will be determined by his performance on the court & development his first couple of seasons, not his draft status

This statement is just wrong...

I will admit to thinking at first that Harkless was making a mistake leaving early and I was wrong. Whether or not it was right decision is entirely based on his draft status. As a first round pick he gets guaranteed money and starts the clock on his second contract. He is proving he belongs in work outs.

But weather he should have returned for another year will be determined by his performance on the court & development his first couple of seasons, not his draft status

This statement is just wrong...

I will admit to thinking at first that Harkless was making a mistake leaving early and I was wrong. Whether or not it was right decision is entirely based on his draft status. As a first round pick he gets guaranteed money and starts the clock on his second contract. He is proving he belongs in work outs.

I was wrong too and agree with Pat.  I thought he was going in the mid 20's or later. 

“@AdamZagoria: One source close to Moe Harkless says his gut tells him the Trail Blazers will select Harkless at No. 11 in ... http://t.co/bqgAikLy”

“@AdamZagoria: One source close to Moe Harkless says his gut tells him the Trail Blazers will select Harkless at No. 11 in ... http://t.co/bqgAikLy”

Well, Zagoria better not be using JohnnyJungle as his source because Tha Kid has no inside information...but might be earning a title of "The Swami" if I nail this one (predicted 11 to Blazers this morning in the prediction thread)!

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“@AdamZagoria: One source close to Moe Harkless says his gut tells him the Trail Blazers will select Harkless at No. 11 in ... http://t.co/bqgAikLy”

Well, Zagoria better not be using JohnnyJungle as his source because Tha Kid has no inside information...but might be earning a title of "The Swami" if I nail this one (predicted 11 to Blazers this morning in the prediction thread)!

Not sure if this was already posted, but SI's Sam Amick reported today that Houston might be trading its 14th and/or 16th picks with Sacramento to get its 5th pick, and in this regard, the owners of the Kings asked Moe if he would work out for them today before leaving California--the implication being that the Kings would scoop up Moe with either the 14th or 16th pick (assuming, of course, Moe last that long in the draft ).

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/06/25/nba-draft-key-questions-picks-trades/index.html?eref=sihp&sct=hp_t11_a0

Looks like he isn't invited

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2012/06/nba-invites-14-players-to-draft-green-room.html

Looks like he isn't invited

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2012/06/nba-invites-14-players-to-draft-green-room.html

I nominate Lamb or Rivers as the two who could be the last in the green room.

 I think Thomas Robinson will be a bust. If Jordan drafts him, he will regret it at #2.  If it were me, I'd take Kidd -Gilchrist.

I think Thomas Robinson will be a bust. If Jordan drafts him, he will regret it at #2.  If it were me, I'd take Kidd -Gilchrist.

Agreed, not high on Lamb and Henson either

I think Thomas Robinson will be a bust. If Jordan drafts him, he will regret it at #2.  If it were me, I'd take Kidd -Gilchrist.

I like Beal a lot.  I would take him at 2.

Quote from: boo3 on June 25, 2012, 11:08:42 PM

I think Thomas Robinson will be a bust. If Jordan drafts him, he will regret it at #2.  If it were me, I'd take Kidd -Gilchrist.

Agreed, not high on Lamb and Henson either

Just looking at last years draft - who went where and when, how they performed,  and which among THEM I'd take head to head over Harkless.

Noticed some interesting stats - of the 60 draft picks last year, a grand total of  five were able to impact the league to the tune of 10 pts or more.   A total of TWO were able to pull down 6 or more rebs.   Only TWO dished as many as 4 assists.  Only 2 were able to hit 50% from the floor.  Only 2 were able to hit 40% or better from the Arc.   6 were able to hit 80% or better from the line.   Only two were able to earn 30 minutes of floor time.

How hard is it to impress in the league as a rookie?  Iman Shumpert didn't qualify in ANY of those categories I just listed.  And he was one of the rookie STARS last season.

That's why I shake my head everytime I read one of the gurus take on Moe that he's a "developmental" draft pick, with a high upside, who may not  impact early.   Hardly ANYONE impacts early.   But I'd be shocked if whereiver Mo ends up (assuming there are SOME minutes available) if he isn't a 7-10 pt, 5-7 reb player as a rookie.   

As to my original thought on looking up last years draft, there's only 4 players I'd take over Moe, and that would be tempered by need, as two of them are PGS....

Zeller or Leonard could slip too.  Rumor is lil doc has been rising almost as fast as moe and could go between 5-10.  We'll see. 

Quote from: Mike on June 25, 2012, 11:03:55 PM

Looks like he isn't invited

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2012/06/nba-invites-14-players-to-draft-green-room.html

I nominate Lamb or Rivers as the two who could be the last in the green room.

Would imagine Moe coming back to NYC to enjoy this moment with his whole family.

Man, I've gone from being upset about him leaving early to being ecstatic for him. Can't wait for his named to get called.

Would imagine Moe coming back to NYC to enjoy this moment with his whole family.

Man, I've gone from being upset about him leaving early to being ecstatic for him. Can't wait for his named to get called.

He is coming back to NY.  I'd like to hope he goes to the Draft in person to enjoy it.  NBA Draft often has lots of players who come on their own dime to enjoy the moment of getting called.  Hope Moe does as well.

Quote from: Redstormy80 on June 25, 2012, 11:20:49 PM

Quote from: boo3 on June 25, 2012, 11:08:42 PM

I think Thomas Robinson will be a bust. If Jordan drafts him, he will regret it at #2.  If it were me, I'd take Kidd -Gilchrist.

Agreed, not high on Lamb and Henson either

Just looking at last years draft - who went where and when, how they performed,  and which among THEM I'd take head to head over Harkless.

Noticed some interesting stats - of the 60 draft picks last year, a grand total of  five were able to impact the league to the tune of 10 pts or more.   A total of TWO were able to pull down 6 or more rebs.   Only TWO dished as many as 4 assists.  Only 2 were able to hit 50% from the floor.  Only 2 were able to hit 40% or better from the Arc.   6 were able to hit 80% or better from the line.   Only two were able to earn 30 minutes of floor time.

How hard is it to impress in the league as a rookie?  Iman Shumpert didn't qualify in ANY of those categories I just listed.  And he was one of the rookie STARS last season.

That's why I shake my head everytime I read one of the gurus take on Moe that he's a "developmental" draft pick, with a high upside, who may not  impact early.   Hardly ANYONE impacts early.   But I'd be shocked if whereiver Mo ends up (assuming there are SOME minutes available) if he isn't a 7-10 pt, 5-7 reb player as a rookie.   

As to my original thought on looking up last years draft, there's only 4 players I'd take over Moe, and that would be tempered by need, as two of them are PGS....

Last year was a very weak draft due to the labor issues

Looks like he isn't invited

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2012/06/nba-invites-14-players-to-draft-green-room.html

http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/06/25/st-johns-harkless-may-be-headed-out-west/


When he arrives back in New York, Harkless plans to attend the Draft in Newark, regardless of whether’s he’s invited among the Green Room participants.
“Oh, yeah, I think so,” he said.

RT @Jonathan_Feigen: Rockets have dealt Chase Budinger to Minn for 18th pick

Rockets are piling up the draft picks (14,16,18). If they can't trade for Dwight, can't imagine Moe gets by where they pick.

Is anyone thinking of going and supporting MOE?

Quote from: Mike on June 25, 2012, 11:03:55 PM

Looks like he isn't invited

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2012/06/nba-invites-14-players-to-draft-green-room.html

http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/06/25/st-johns-harkless-may-be-headed-out-west/


When he arrives back in New York, Harkless plans to attend the Draft in Newark, regardless of whether’s he’s invited among the Green Room participants.
“Oh, yeah, I think so,” he said.

He definitely should. If I were him I'd sit up in the nosebleeds and high-five everyone on the way down to the stage.