Ryan was very much under-utilized and under appreciated, he was a 6-5 solid built lefty who could put it on the floor and stroke it, and hustled his tail off. After his sju term he went on too put up 30 + in a plethora of pro -am leagues and a brief stint in Japan and also displayed how athletically gifted he really was during a couple summers on the and1 tour lol but Long story short Norm hampered a lot of talent when he was running the show. Just look at hardy's transformation from junior to senior year.