Twitter & NCAA Violation

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paultzman

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Twitter & NCAA Violation
« on: April 18, 2012, 10:07:58 AM »
To all you Tweens who contact recruits! NCAA jail for you! :police:

“@jeffborzello: RT @Mengus22: If you tweet at a recruit to come to your school, you become a booster and your contact is impermissible. http://t.co/ZOflh6OB

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Re: Twitter & NCAA Violation
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2012, 11:01:27 AM »
To all you Tweens who contact recruits! NCAA jail for you! :police:

“@jeffborzello: RT @Mengus22: If you tweet at a recruit to come to your school, you become a booster and your contact is impermissible. http://t.co/ZOflh6OB

Kind of a ridiculous result, but then again, I don't think the rules were drafted with twitter in mind.   

Re: Twitter & NCAA Violation
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2012, 11:07:03 AM »
I think it is more of a scare tactic to deter it then it is a threat to actually punish any school.  How could you truly enforce it?

Think about it, technically any human being with a twitter account regardless of whether they are even a fan of a school could be deemed a booster under this definition.

Let me give you an example.  Some kid, John Smith in Butte, Montana we'll say, tweets to recruit X that he should attend SJU.  John Smith never went to SJU, never gave a dime to SJU, has never even been on campus.  Not to mention the fact that SJU nor can any school control what anyone does on their twitter account.

Yet you are going to hold SJU responsible for what John Smith did?  SJU's response is simply, "We don't control John Smith, we don't know who John Smith is, John SMith does not represent SJU or any part of our school, how in the world is his tweet OUR fault?"

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Re: Twitter & NCAA Violation
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2012, 11:08:46 AM »
I think it is more of a scare tactic to deter it then it is a threat to actually punish any school.  How could you truly enforce it?

Think about it, technically any human being with a twitter account regardless of whether they are even a fan of a school could be deemed a booster under this definition.

Let me give you an example.  Some kid, John Smith in Butte, Montana we'll say, tweets to recruit X that he should attend SJU.  John Smith never went to SJU, never gave a dime to SJU, has never even been on campus.  Not to mention the fact that SJU nor can any school control what anyone does on their twitter account.

Yet you are going to hold SJU responsible for what John Smith did?  SJU's response is simply, "We don't control John Smith, we don't know who John Smith is, John SMith does not represent SJU or any part of our school, how in the world is his tweet OUR fault?"

Lack of enforcement capability obvious.

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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2012, 11:10:22 AM »
I didn't think anyone who tweeted was a booster.  If you met the booster criteria which were very easy to meet then it would be an issue.  I posted something last year on both boards with links to some recent examples.  To put it bluntly, if you gave 2 dollars to a program 20 yrs ago, you were still considered a booster.
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Re: Twitter & NCAA Violation
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2012, 11:15:54 AM »
I think it is more of a scare tactic to deter it then it is a threat to actually punish any school.  How could you truly enforce it?

Think about it, technically any human being with a twitter account regardless of whether they are even a fan of a school could be deemed a booster under this definition.

Let me give you an example.  Some kid, John Smith in Butte, Montana we'll say, tweets to recruit X that he should attend SJU.  John Smith never went to SJU, never gave a dime to SJU, has never even been on campus.  Not to mention the fact that SJU nor can any school control what anyone does on their twitter account.

Yet you are going to hold SJU responsible for what John Smith did?  SJU's response is simply, "We don't control John Smith, we don't know who John Smith is, John SMith does not represent SJU or any part of our school, how in the world is his tweet OUR fault?"

Good illustration why the NCAA rules need a Twitter amendment.  Of course, tweets from supposed students can easily be disguised messages from a serious booster, and a verbal tip off to the recruit could be used to circumvent the amended rule.   The NCAA might need to create a cyber-police rules infraction group, if one doesn't already exist.

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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2012, 11:17:57 AM »
I think it is more of a scare tactic to deter it then it is a threat to actually punish any school.  How could you truly enforce it?

Think about it, technically any human being with a twitter account regardless of whether they are even a fan of a school could be deemed a booster under this definition.

Let me give you an example.  Some kid, John Smith in Butte, Montana we'll say, tweets to recruit X that he should attend SJU.  John Smith never went to SJU, never gave a dime to SJU, has never even been on campus.  Not to mention the fact that SJU nor can any school control what anyone does on their twitter account.

Yet you are going to hold SJU responsible for what John Smith did?  SJU's response is simply, "We don't control John Smith, we don't know who John Smith is, John SMith does not represent SJU or any part of our school, how in the world is his tweet OUR fault?"

Good illustration why the NCAA rules need a Twitter amendment.  Of course, tweets from supposed students can easily be disguised messages from a serious booster, and a verbal tip off to the recruit could be used to circumvent the amended rule.   The NCAA might need to create a cyber-police rules infraction group, if one doesn't already exist.

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Re: Twitter & NCAA Violation
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2012, 11:28:29 AM »
There is no reason to tweet a high school kid. None.

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Re: Twitter & NCAA Violation
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2012, 11:33:40 AM »
There is no reason to tweet a high school kid. None.

Who can you tweet then?
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Re: Twitter & NCAA Violation
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2012, 11:36:10 AM »
There is no reason to tweet a high school kid. None.

Who can you tweet then?

Noone on here says anything interesting enough to need a twitter account

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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2012, 11:39:44 AM »
There is no reason to tweet a high school kid. None.

Who can you tweet then?

Noone on here says anything interesting enough to need a twitter account

So why is the platform so popular is my question?  If HS kids are off limits in Poison's world, when they make it to college is it OK?   Or do they have to be past college age?
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Re: Twitter & NCAA Violation
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2012, 11:53:24 AM »
Everyone go on twitter and ask Sanchez to come to Providence

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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2012, 11:55:12 AM »
Everyone go on twitter and ask Sanchez to come to Providence

That's the Baldi I know and love.
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Re: Twitter & NCAA Violation
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2012, 11:57:14 AM »
There is no reason to tweet a high school kid. None.

what if the person tweeting them is in high school?
*wipes ketchup from his eyes* - I guess Heinz sight isn’t 20/20.

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Re: Twitter & NCAA Violation
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2012, 12:01:57 PM »
There is no reason to tweet a high school kid. None.

what if the person tweeting them is in high school?

or what if the "kid" in high school is 20, receiving a tweet from an 18 year old college freshman?

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Re: Twitter & NCAA Violation
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2012, 01:40:21 PM »
I rarely agree with Poison, but I do here.  Anyone over college age should not be tweeting any non-family member/friend teenagers.  It's creepy.
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Re: Twitter & NCAA Violation
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2012, 01:50:18 PM »
I rarely agree with Poison, but I do here.  Anyone over college age should not be tweeting any non-family member/friend teenagers.  It's creepy.

There are 2 ways to look at it, often times you mention a kid using using twitter handle without any intent to talk with him. I don't find that creepy at all. However there are others that talk to kids in the open all the time. That is where I find the potential infraction.   

Re: Twitter & NCAA Violation
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2012, 01:54:06 PM »
FriarBaldi@orlandosanchez

Come to Providence, we'll get you a bj. Just dont tell your mother

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Re: Twitter & NCAA Violation
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2012, 01:56:08 PM »
FriarBaldi@orlandosanchez

Come to Providence, we'll get you a bj. Just dont tell your mother

Volunteering?

Re: Twitter & NCAA Violation
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2012, 01:58:01 PM »
FriarBaldi@orlandosanchez

Come to Providence, we'll get you a bj. Just dont tell your mother

Would that make a booster?

Volunteering?