NYC players

Every Division I  and many Div II  & III programs in America subscribe to Tom Konchalski's service.

But can I subscribe to it?  I think if its exclusive to coaches its good, but if there is some form of public information with pay walls it might not be kosher.

Quote from: pmg911 on April 20, 2012, 02:29:13 PM

Every Division I  and many Div II  & III programs in America subscribe to Tom Konchalski's service.

But can I subscribe to it?  I think if its exclusive to coaches its good, but if there is some form of public information with pay walls it might not be kosher.

Oh ok Moose.   Yea, what I was referring to, and about to post some links for, were sites exclusive to coaches.   Because those kind of reports coaches have been buying for a long time. 

You could be right about scout or rivals.   I also think there could be issues with those sites because they have forum, message board, and chat features.   

Quote from: Choz4Life on April 20, 2012, 12:19:12 PM

Glove was a straight up monster at Rice. Strongest playa I ever seen.

Shoulda been a McD AA, but they knew he'd prop 48 so them DeMatha snobs passed.

Has there been NYC player since Glove that matched his game?

Since? Hard to say bre. Undersized power guys is always around. But none wit the strength of Glove, who really could do whateva he want in the CHSAA.

Two strongest ballaz I ever seen in high school: Glove and Jerry Walker - St. Ants.

Quote from: Moose on April 20, 2012, 12:21:22 PM

Quote from: Choz4Life on April 20, 2012, 12:19:12 PM

Glove was a straight up monster at Rice. Strongest playa I ever seen.

Shoulda been a McD AA, but they knew he'd prop 48 so them DeMatha snobs passed.

Has there been NYC player since Glove that matched his game?

Since? Hard to say bre. Undersized power guys is always around. But none wit the strength of Glove, who really could do whateva he want in the CHSAA.

Two strongest ballaz I ever seen in high school: Glove and Jerry Walker - St. Ants.

Very unique player.  I was hoping by your response some would stop comparing Leroy Fludd's of the world to a guy like Glover.  Just two different worlds.

The game has changed since ant glove's days. Way to much fancy schmancy flashy basketball now. Not enough bangers , way too many stretch 4's.

Quote from: pmg911 on April 20, 2012, 02:29:13 PM

Every Division I  and many Div II  & III programs in America subscribe to Tom Konchalski's service.

But can I subscribe to it?  I think if its exclusive to coaches its good, but if there is some form of public information with pay walls it might not be kosher.

I think your point makes sense which is why a guy like Coleman has two different products.  A subscription website and then a big money newsletter which appears to be only available to college athletic departments.  .

FWIW they also seem to an outsider like me to be two different products.  Rivals and Scout do rudimentary analysis and rankings but most of their stuff is about where kids are thinking about going.  Guys like Konchalsi, Gibbons, Coleman et al are more talent evaluators.  I'm sure Dave could give much more information/clarification on this as well as the rules when he has a chance.

Shoulda been a McD AA, but they knew he'd prop 48 so them DeMatha snobs passed

What is a "DeMatha snob".? Is this yet another Choz slang term that no one else understands..?

Anthony Glover represented everything that was right about the Prop 48 Rule. You don't get the grades in high school you can still go to sdchool but can't play as a Freshman and then if you do the work and get your act together, you get your year of eligibility back.

Coach from DeMatha ran the McDonalds selection committee for years. He did not want a Prop 48 on the team. While Choz grammar may leave a lot to be desired, he knows what he is talking about. FACTS.

Why is it necessary to call someone ignorant for stating the truth??

Use guys havE mentioned that recruiting rankings have changed since the 90's. Do u think 6'4 pf would be ranked high in 2012?

If the rankings are truly based on talent and how well they perform in high school, then anyone can be ranked high.

Once they start fudging the numbers based on projected potential and NBA position, and whether a guy is going to Duke or not, then a 6'4" PF won't crack any top lists unless they are the high school version of Barkley or LJ.

If the rankings are truly based on talent and how well they perform in high school, then anyone can be ranked high.

Not everyone, shirley. For example, the untalented will be ranked low, as will the underachievers. Both those groups, as well as the ubiquitous stupids, will be denied the opportunity to be highly ranked, based merely on their lack of skill, accomplishment, and intellect. Which is unfair IMHO, especially in the United States in the 21st century. If order for this country to move forward from yesterday into a tomorrow that is both post today and pre next week it's critical that everyone have not only equality of opportunity, but equality of result.

Obviously it's obviously impossible to lift those at the bottom up to the top: unfortunately we lack the technology that would allow a Stephen Hawking to play basketball at the high level as does a Lebron James, just as we lack the technology that would allow Lebron to intelligently discuss black holes with Sheldon and the gang on the hilarious situation comedy The Big Bang Theory, as did professor Hawking in the recent episode entitled Wow I'd Really Like to Pound That Penny. What we do have the technology to do, however, is level the playing field so that Lebron James could ball with the same skill as Stephen Hawking and Hawking discuss top down cosmology with the same acumen as James. To that end I suggest that talented players be fitted with weights, braces, and other contraptions that limit their skill and mobility; that overachievers be medicated with lithium, thorozine and saltpeter that thwarts their drive and determination; and that heady players with high basketball IQs be stunned by blows to the head and in extreme cases lobotomized. Only then will "anyone" have the ability to be highly ranked and only then will we as a country inherit the legacy bequeathed us by James Madison, Earl Monroe, and the other founding fathers.   

Times have definitely changed ...
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