Big East media day...

BTW-Here are the writers that were polled including Roger Rubin of the News and Lenn Robbins of the Post:

The following writers participated in the Post-Standard poll:


Greg Auman, Tampa Bay Times; Rick Bozich, WDRB-TV Louisville; Ken Davis, FOXSportsNEXT.com; Mike DeCourcy, The Sporting News; Ray Fittipaldo, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette; Brian Hamilton, Chicago Tribune; Michael Hunt, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel; Mike Kern, Philadelphia Daily News; Kevin McNamara, Providence Journal; Tom Noie, South Bend Tribune; Dana O'Neil, ESPN.com; J.P. Pelzman, Bergen Record; Brendan Prunty, Newark Star-Ledger; Lenn Robbins, New York Post, Roger Rubin, New York Daily News.

getting back to the standings for a minute, i think we should be ahead of usf and uconn.  i thought usf was going to be real tough this year, but losing austin changes the whole chemistry of that team.  and uconn is in for a tough couple of years.  also, i don't think we're as young as many people believe.  i don't look at upper classmen vs under classmen as much as i look at returning starters.  and we are returning five guys who had starter minutes last year, plus two more who started in juco.  just a hunch, but i would bet that we are among the league leaders in "returning minutes", and that's going to make us very competitive.

# of votes in parenthesis ..

Player of the Year:
Peyton Siva (9)
Chane Behanan (3)
Otto Porter (1)
Gourgi Dieng (1)
Sean Kilpatrick (1)


Freshmen of the Year:
Steven Adams (12)
Omar Calhoun (2)
Jakarr Sampson (1)


http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2012/10/louisville_tops_big_east_write.html#incart_river

# of votes in parenthesis ..

Player of the Year:
Peyton Siva (9)
Chane Behanan (3)
Otto Porter (1)
Gourgi Dieng (1)
Sean Kilpatrick (1)


Freshmen of the Year:
Steven Adams (12)
Omar Calhoun (2)
Jakarr Sampson (1)


http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2012/10/louisville_tops_big_east_write.html#incart_river

Should be 'newcomer' of the year, not freshman

# of votes in parenthesis ..

Player of the Year:
Peyton Siva (9)
Chane Behanan (3)
Otto Porter (1)
Gourgi Dieng (1)
Sean Kilpatrick (1)


Freshmen of the Year:
Steven Adams (12)
Omar Calhoun (2)
Jakarr Sampson (1)


http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2012/10/louisville_tops_big_east_write.html#incart_river

The inconsistency is here.  How can the no. 2 and tie for no. 3 pre-season POY vote getters fail to make pre-season 1st Team All BE??  By definition they should be 1st Team.

Remind me never to argue with Poison or Moose.

Where's the fun in THAT? 

Quote from: Moose on October 16, 2012, 01:44:09 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on October 16, 2012, 01:41:59 PM

Writers Poll continues.

Here are there pre-season 1st and 2nd team All-BE.  Harrison makes 2nd team.  Late is pre-season POY and ROY:

http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2012/10/louisvilles_peyton_siva_cincin.html#incart_more_sports

Big East first team:

Peyton Siva, G, Louisville
Sean Kilpatrick, G, Cincinnati
Jack Cooley, C, Notre Dame
Vincent Council, G, Providence
Otto Porter, F, Georgetown

Big East second team

Brandon Triche, G, Syracuse
C.J. Fair, F, Syracuse
Michael Carter-Williams, G, Syracuse
Gorgui Dieng, C, Louisville
Chane Behanan, F, Louisville
D'Angelo Harrison, G, St. John's

Let me play homer.  And I like Kilpatrick as a White Plains guy.

But Harrison averaged 2 more PPG with pretty much the same numbers.  Also better from the FT, as a freshman.  I don't see that pick.

I think Kilpatrick was a bench player last year or at least part of the year wasn't he?

Sean is evidence that if you take time to develop a kid he can really blossom.  I just remember Sean was on the same AAU team as Kevin and Mookie Jones, all buddies from Westchester.  Sean went to White Plains, Mookie to Peekskill and Kevin to Mount Veron and all ended up in the Big East.  Kevin and Mookie were high ranked recruits who went right to college.  Sean decided to prep a year and then when he went to Cincy he redshirted his first year.  So in essence he was in the same class as the Jones' boys but is now 2 full years behind them.  Those 2 extra years I think have been huge in his development.

I played against Sean , he was always very very good, pure scorer. Mookie was always overrated and that was exposed in college. But just goes to show rankings are very misleading. Kudos to Sean on perservering

Glad to see Phil is excited for tomorrow....

Phil Greene
‏@philgreene31
Gotta do Big East media day 2morrow. Dnt even feel like doing all of that I'm just trying to chill

Glad to see Phil is excited for tomorrow....

Phil Greene
‏@philgreene31
Gotta do Big East media day 2morrow. Dnt even feel like doing all of that I'm just trying to chill

I'm with Phil. A day dealing with the media? Like watching Yankees offense

If we hung on every tweet these kids made, we'd be convinced that Obekpa chose Cinci because they pay more than we do.

i used to cover those things.  for the coaches and players, it was work.  for the reporters, it was about the swag.

tomorrow's newspapers should be interesting.

Writers Poll continues.

Here are their pre-season 1st and 2nd team All-BE.  Harrison makes 2nd team.  Later is pre-season POY and ROY:

http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2012/10/louisvilles_peyton_siva_cincin.html#incart_more_sports

Big East first team:

Peyton Siva, G, Louisville
Sean Kilpatrick, G, Cincinnati
Jack Cooley, C, Notre Dame
Vincent Council, G, Providence
Otto Porter, F, Georgetown

Big East second team

Brandon Triche, G, Syracuse
C.J. Fair, F, Syracuse
Michael Carter-Williams, G, Syracuse
Gorgui Dieng, C, Louisville
Chane Behanan, F, Louisville
D'Angelo Harrison, G, St. John's

I would have Siva, Cooley, Dieng, Harrison, and CJ Fair on the first team.

Coaches Poll is out and it mirrors the writers poll.  Louisville on top almost unanimous as a coach voted ND no. 1, SJU 10th.

2012-13 Preseason Coaches' Poll

1. Louisville (14) 196
2. Syracuse 175
3. Notre Dame (1) 166
4. Cincinnati 152
5. Georgetown 136
6. Pittsburgh 132
7. Marquette 121
8. USF 96
9. Connecticut 83
10. St. John’s 73
11. Rutgers 63
12. Villanova 61
13. DePaul 48
14. Seton Hall 42
15. Providence 31

http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2012/10/big_east_coaches_make_louisvil.html


                                                         
                                                                               

And pre-season All-BE teams named.  Harrison made 2nd team.

2012-13 BIG EAST Preseason Player of the Year
Peyton Siva, Louisville

2012-13 BIG EAST Preseason Rookie of the Year
Steven Adams, Pittsburgh

2012-13 Preseason All-BIG EAST First Team
Sean Kilpatrick, Cincinnati, G, Jr., 6-4, 221, White Plains, N.Y.
Otto Porter, Georgetown, F, So., 6-8, 205, Sikeston, Mo.
Gorgui Dieng, Louisville, C, Jr., 6-10, 225, Dakar, Senegal
Jack Cooley, Notre Dame, F, Sr., 6-9, 244, Glenview, Ill.
Vincent Council, Providence, G, Sr., 6-2, 180, Brooklyn, N.Y.

2012-13 Preseason All-BIG EAST Second Team
Shabazz Napier, Connecticut, G, Jr., 6-1, 171, Roxbury, Mass.
Cleveland Melvin, DePaul, F, Jr., 6-8, 208, Baltimore, Md.
D’Angelo Harrison, St. John’s, G, So., 6-3, 202, Missouri City, Texas
Anthony Collins, USF, So., G, 6-1, 175, Houston, Texas
Brandon Triche, Syracuse, G, Sr., 6-4, 205, Jamesville, N.Y.

2012-13 Preseason BIG EAST Honorable Mention
Chane Behanan, Louisville, F, So., 6-7, 250, Cincinnati, Ohio
Jerian Grant, Notre Dame, G, Jr., 6-5, 185, Bowie, Md.
Tray Woodall, Pittsburgh, G, Sr., 5-11, 190, Brooklyn, N.Y.
C.J. Fair, Syracuse, F, Jr., 6-8, 212, Baltimore, Md.
 

http://www.bigeast.org/News/tabid/435/Article/237994/louisvilles-siva-named-big-east-preseason-player-of-the-year.aspx

Coaches Poll is out and it mirrors the writers poll.  Louisville on top almost unanimous as a coach voted ND no. 1, SJU 10th.

2012-13 Preseason Coaches' Poll

1. Louisville (14) 196
2. Syracuse 175
3. Notre Dame (1) 166
4. Cincinnati 152
5. Georgetown 136
6. Pittsburgh 132
7. Marquette 121
8. USF 96
9. Connecticut 83
10. St. John’s 73
11. Rutgers 63
12. Villanova 61
13. DePaul 48
14. Seton Hall 42
15. Providence 31

http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2012/10/big_east_coaches_make_louisvil.html


                                                         
                                                                               

I take it back, it is unanimous.  Rule is you cannot vote for your own team or player, so that 1 vote for ND is Pitino because he cannot vote for Louisville.  Everyione else voted for 'Ville so in essence it is unanimous.

No way I have UCONN over St Johns. I truly believe UCONN will finish 13th

Everyone else deserves to be ahead of us as we have to prove we can get wins with a untested roster 

“@AdamZagoria: #SNY will carry over 90 Big East basketball games this year”

“@BrendanPrunty: Big East also announces Paul Brazeau, fmr NBA VP of Bball Ops, to be new associate commish for M Hoops. Replaces Dan Gavitt.”

I think Pittsburgh at 6 is nuts. I don't care how good their freshman center is, it's unlikely he's ready to go in year one. They were a bad team last year, that lost their best player and shooter.

providence picked last.  i can hear moose crying in his soup.

I think Pittsburgh at 6 is nuts. I don't care how good their freshman center is, it's unlikely he's ready to go in year one. They were a bad team last year, that lost their best player and shooter.

Give me a break, they aren't DePaul.  Yes they were bad last year that was AFTER 10 straight NCAA Tourney's, 4 BE regular season titles and 2 BE Tourney titles, 6 BE Tourney final appearances, 2 times a no. 1 seed, once a no. 2 seed, 3 times a 3 seed. 

They still have a terrific roster and a terrific coach.  Most would see last year as an aberration.

Bottom line is Pitt has earned the benefit of the doubt.