BE Media Contract

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Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #120 on: November 20, 2012, 12:23:04 PM »
Report: Boston College and Virginia could be the next to join the Big Ten sbn.to/10nhsxw

Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #121 on: November 20, 2012, 12:25:02 PM »
Does anyone have a sense of what a super basketball only conference would generate in a media contract?  Is it drastically different than the already small share that bball only schools are getting from the big east now?  If the difference less than $1M per year per school, a split should be evaluated now so we aren't stuck.

What about the NCAA tournament $?  I remember in 2010 when the big east had 10 teams in that the NCAA tournament $ exceeded the bowl $.  Has anyone ever seen a full analysis of the economics?

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Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #122 on: November 20, 2012, 12:27:57 PM »
Report: Boston College and Virginia could be the next to join the Big Ten sbn.to/10nhsxw

Ha BC is the leaders in conference jumping
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Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #123 on: November 20, 2012, 12:44:24 PM »
If 2 more ACC teams jump to the Big 10 then that will officially be the death of the Big East. 
Louisville, UCONN, and Cincinnati will surely be headed to the ACC.





Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #124 on: November 20, 2012, 12:47:47 PM »
Basketball Super Conference- 2 games vs Div Opp and 6 games split between other divisions= 18 conf games. Each Div winner gets 1st rd bye and maybe a wild card type scenario 4th bye. Add teams from remaining list to fill spots. Football schools can still play football in a conference similar to what the Big East is trying to do currently. PS i didn't research it just off top of head i'm sure #'s would have to be worked out.

Eastern Division         Mid Western Division       Western Division
    St Johns                    Marquette                       Gonzaga
    Georgetown               Xavier                             Saint Mary's
    Nova                         Depaul                             UNLV
    Seton Hall                 Memphis                          Fresno St
    Providence                Butler                              Nevada
    St Joes                     Murray St                         Air Force
    Temple                     Saint Louis                       San Diego St.


    Others    *Lasalle      *Houston
                  *Dayton     *UTEP
                  *Richmond
                  *VCU

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Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #125 on: November 20, 2012, 12:48:49 PM »
But I still don't see BC and Virginia leaving.    They will cost more than they are worth to the Big10.   B10 will have to split the pot among 2 more teams, and Virginia especially is a redundant market cover now that they  have Maryland.

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Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #126 on: November 20, 2012, 12:50:36 PM »
Does anyone have a sense of what a super basketball only conference would generate in a media contract?  Is it drastically different than the already small share that bball only schools are getting from the big east now?  If the difference less than $1M per year per school, a split should be evaluated now so we aren't stuck.

Agree

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Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #127 on: November 20, 2012, 12:52:10 PM »
Basketball Super Conference- 2 games vs Div Opp and 6 games split between other divisions= 18 conf games. Each Div winner gets 1st rd bye and maybe a wild card type scenario 4th bye. Add teams from remaining list to fill spots. Football schools can still play football in a conference similar to what the Big East is trying to do currently. PS i didn't research it just off top of head i'm sure #'s would have to be worked out.

Eastern Division         Mid Western Division       Western Division
    St Johns                    Marquette                       Gonzaga
    Georgetown               Xavier                             Saint Mary's
    Nova                         Depaul                             UNLV
    Seton Hall                 Memphis                          Fresno St
    Providence                Butler                              Nevada
    St Joes                     Murray St                         Air Force
    Temple                     Saint Louis                       San Diego St.


    Others    *Lasalle      *Houston
                  *Dayton     *UTEP
                  *Richmond
                  *VCU


UNLV, Fresno St, San Diego, and Air Force are going to want nothing to do with a  primarily basketball conference.     Same for Houston and UTEP .. they are first and foremost concerned about a home for their football programs.   

Otherwise it makes lots of sense to me.   And I think that's the direction we're headed in.   Some combination of Big East and A-10. 

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Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #128 on: November 20, 2012, 01:04:17 PM »
Basketball Super Conference- 2 games vs Div Opp and 6 games split between other divisions= 18 conf games. Each Div winner gets 1st rd bye and maybe a wild card type scenario 4th bye. Add teams from remaining list to fill spots. Football schools can still play football in a conference similar to what the Big East is trying to do currently. PS i didn't research it just off top of head i'm sure #'s would have to be worked out.

Eastern Division         Mid Western Division       Western Division
    St Johns                    Marquette                       Gonzaga
    Georgetown               Xavier                             Saint Mary's
    Nova                         Depaul                             UNLV
    Seton Hall                 Memphis                          Fresno St
    Providence                Butler                              Nevada
    St Joes                     Murray St                         Air Force
    Temple                     Saint Louis                       San Diego St.


    Others    *Lasalle      *Houston
                  *Dayton     *UTEP
                  *Richmond
                  *VCU


UNLV, Fresno St, San Diego, and Air Force are going to want nothing to do with a  primarily basketball conference.     Same for Houston and UTEP .. they are first and foremost concerned about a home for their football programs.   

Otherwise it makes lots of sense to me.   And I think that's the direction we're headed in.   Some combination of Big East and A-10. 

I would try to make a conference with only schools that don't play D1 football.  This means removing the Memphis, Temple, SDSU, UNLV's Fresno's etc of the world.
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Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #129 on: November 20, 2012, 01:06:06 PM »
“@QSTJHoops: Lav on losing Big East teams: "I've never sold Syr or Pitt in recruiting. I focus on is that STJ is in the center of the world." #stjbb”

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Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #130 on: November 20, 2012, 02:10:36 PM »
STATEMENT OF BIG EAST COMMISSIONER MIKE ARESCO
REGARDING DEPARTURE OF RUTGERS UNIVERSITY
 
 
Although we are disappointed that Rutgers has decided to leave the Big East Conference, we wish them well. They have been a valued member of the Conference for many years.
 
We realize that conference realignment is currently a fact of life in college sports. In the context of this realignment, changes in our membership have been taking place, including important additions. In fact, the Big East has expanded its scope with new members in California, Texas, Florida, Idaho, Tennessee and Pennsylvania. As a result, the Big East has created a unique national football conference that is a factor in the BCS Championship, remains the nation’s strongest basketball conference top to bottom, and is a major force across the full spectrum of men’s and women’s college sports. We remain committed to, and confident in, the continued growth and vitality of the Big East Conference.
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« Reply #131 on: November 20, 2012, 02:12:53 PM »
STATEMENT OF BIG EAST COMMISSIONER MIKE ARESCO
REGARDING DEPARTURE OF RUTGERS UNIVERSITY
 
 
Although we are disappointed that Rutgers has decided to leave the Big East Conference, we wish them well. They have been a valued member of the Conference for many years.
 
We realize that conference realignment is currently a fact of life in college sports. In the context of this realignment, changes in our membership have been taking place, including important additions. In fact, the Big East has expanded its scope with new members in California, Texas, Florida, Idaho, Tennessee and Pennsylvania. As a result, the Big East has created a unique national football conference that is a factor in the BCS Championship, remains the nation’s strongest basketball conference top to bottom, and is a major force across the full spectrum of men’s and women’s college sports. We remain committed to, and confident in, the continued growth and vitality of the Big East Conference.

As he puts family pictures in his office in cardboard box.

Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #132 on: November 20, 2012, 02:19:53 PM »
But I still don't see BC and Virginia leaving.    They will cost more than they are worth to the Big10.   B10 will have to split the pot among 2 more teams, and Virginia especially is a redundant market cover now that they  have Maryland.
I still think the big 4 conferences will wind up with 16 teams.  More changes to come, and then the ACC and Beast combine for basketball supremacy.

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Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #133 on: November 20, 2012, 02:36:02 PM »
Like the quote attributed to Lavin.  SJU is the center of the world.  Win and we will be fine-enough quality recruits will want to be in lights of NY/MSG.  Lose, and it won't matter what conference we're in-recruits will back off. 

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Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #134 on: November 20, 2012, 02:48:51 PM »
In Chicago, Herb Gould writes, “Not surprisingly, a platoon of Big Ten Network analysts applauded the Maryland acquisition.” KFAN-AM host Dan Barreiro tweeted, “Based on early reaction from Big 10 analysts, Delany trails only Gandhi, Mandela, MLK among visionaries.” However, Gould notes ESPN analysts were “not afraid to use their harpoons.” ESPN’s Bruce Pearl said, "I just don’t understand it. They talk about student-athlete welfare. How’s the road trip from Maryland to Nebraska going to be for the volleyball team or the fans who want to travel?” (CHICAGO SUN-TIMES, 11/20).
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Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #135 on: November 21, 2012, 12:33:02 PM »
Good for Tom Mc!

“@alex_prewitt: Tom McMillen has an Op-Ed in the Washington Post: 'What happened at Maryland was governance by secrecy and exclusion. 'http://t.co/HZDQjO9a

Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #136 on: November 21, 2012, 12:43:33 PM »
STATEMENT OF BIG EAST COMMISSIONER MIKE ARESCO
REGARDING DEPARTURE OF RUTGERS UNIVERSITY
 
 
Although we are disappointed that Rutgers has decided to leave the Big East Conference, we wish them well. They have been a valued member of the Conference for many years.
 
We realize that conference realignment is currently a fact of life in college sports. In the context of this realignment, changes in our membership have been taking place, including important additions. In fact, the Big East has expanded its scope with new members in California, Texas, Florida, Idaho, Tennessee and Pennsylvania. As a result, the Big East has created a unique national football conference that is a factor in the BCS Championship, remains the nation’s strongest basketball conference top to bottom, and is a major force across the full spectrum of men’s and women’s college sports. We remain committed to, and confident in, the continued growth and vitality of the Big East Conference.

factor in the bcs championship?   right, we're lumped with four other mid major conferences for one spot.

continued growth and vitality of the conference?  that growth is a tumor.  the big east's vitality is what you get with a well placed knee to the nutz. 

it's time to get rid of the spin doctors and roll up your sleeves.

Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #137 on: November 21, 2012, 12:52:51 PM »
if the 4 power football conferences thing happens, the dominoes will fall in a way that leaves a football-basketball conference that looks a lot like a hybrid of big east and acc, maybe with a kansas sprinkled in.  the big east is going to be decimated first, but ultimately it might re-form as a better version of what we have today - an awesome basketball conference with poor football.  cuse/duke/espn must see this...

i just hope this happens expeditiously so we can move on one way or the other

Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #138 on: November 21, 2012, 01:00:09 PM »
Basketball Super Conference- 2 games vs Div Opp and 6 games split between other divisions= 18 conf games. Each Div winner gets 1st rd bye and maybe a wild card type scenario 4th bye. Add teams from remaining list to fill spots. Football schools can still play football in a conference similar to what the Big East is trying to do currently. PS i didn't research it just off top of head i'm sure #'s would have to be worked out.

Eastern Division         Mid Western Division       Western Division
    St Johns                    Marquette                       Gonzaga
    Georgetown               Xavier                             Saint Mary's
    Nova                         Depaul                             UNLV
    Seton Hall                 Memphis                          Fresno St
    Providence                Butler                              Nevada
    St Joes                     Murray St                         Air Force
    Temple                     Saint Louis                       San Diego St.


    Others    *Lasalle      *Houston
                  *Dayton     *UTEP
                  *Richmond
                  *VCU

putting the western conference of this hypothetical league aside, where would STJ rank this season in this conference?

i think we're a middle pack 7/8

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Re: BE Media Contract
« Reply #139 on: November 21, 2012, 03:13:04 PM »
I really hope we get in a bcs conference. If not a small all east basketball conference with an automatic bid is what we should do. Pay less conference games and play a really tough out of conference schedule.why would we want to play butler? Nevada ? Saint louis?
Nova home and home
Gt
Providence
Marquette
Seton hall
Temple
Memphis
We don't need anyone else. Hoping for ACC