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My choice fwiw;

“@dcsportsbog: Feinstein wants conf of Gtown, St. John's, Nova, Providence, Seton Hall, Marquette, DePaul, Xavier, Dayton, St. Joe's http://t.co/0o0uWyrM”

 I'd sign up for that.

Quote from: sju89tr on November 28, 2012, 01:24:49 PM

Quote from: desco80 on November 28, 2012, 01:15:29 PM

Quote from: Choz4Life on November 28, 2012, 01:01:55 PM

Wisdom:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/big-east-needs-to-return-to-basketball-roots-rather-than-chase-football-crumbs/2012/11/28/9de56016-3975-11e2-8a97-363b0f9a0ab3_story.html

Absolutely. 

And it doesn't need to be this monstrous coast-to-coast league people are talking about with Gonzaga and St Marys.

Keep the basketball only schools and then add who you can from:

Xavier
Butler
St Joes
Dayton
VCU
Richmond
George Mason
even a Murray State.

I would love to keep Temple and Memphis involved, but unless they can keep their football in CUSA, that probably won't happen.

Regardless, add several of the above schools to St Johns, Georgetown, Villanova, Marquette, Providence, Depaul, Seton Hall  and we're good to go. 
12 or 14 teams, most on the east coast, and at the very furthest in the central time zone.   All who put their basketball programs ahead of all us. 


 
That's the best outcome for SJU in my opinion.   And I pray it comes to fruition.

The only reason I posted a monster conference is that the Big East or whatever we would be called would need a marketing tag as a mega basketball conf coast to coast and I am not sure is a predominately eastern seaboard basketball conference would do that.

Yea, I can see some value in that.   But to me, the less travel the better.   If teams don't have to fly to half their conference games that means they take home more of the tv revenue.
32 teams is a bit ridiculous I think, but a mega conference that included Gonzaga and west coast teams is still preferable to staying with the new football schools in the Big East.  That I agree on.

Trust me, I don't want that mega conference, I would like to be included with Georgetown, and Nova to ACC but personally I don't think that happens

A 12-14 team basketball only conference would be fine to me but not sure that it will be enough revenue to be big time

St Johns
Georgetown
Villanova
DePaul
Providence
Seton Hall
Marquette
Richmond
Butler
Murray State
Xavier
Dayton
St. Josephs
Virginia Commonwealth

BTW, read Aresco's statement regarding loss of Louisville, looks like more of the same will happen and can't imagine we aren't on phone with UNLV right now trying to add them. & basketball only schools need to step up immediately and do something.
 

32 teams isn't ridiculous if you're playing in your division only in all sports...with playoffs at the end. 

either you make a big splash or resign yourself to mid major.  an all catholic conference sounds good today...but ten years from now, news outlets will be doing feature stories about the lone team in that conference that made the sweet 16.  forget the spin...mid major is mid major.

More numbers doesn't necessarily make it a major conference, it's the quality of teams.   

Who would your 32 teams include?

Quote from: paultzman on November 28, 2012, 01:37:26 PM

My choice fwiw;

“@dcsportsbog: Feinstein wants conf of Gtown, St. John's, Nova, Providence, Seton Hall, Marquette, DePaul, Xavier, Dayton, St. Joe's http://t.co/0o0uWyrM”

 I'd sign up for that.

Kiss MSG goodbye with that schedule unless you have some super out of conference games.

Quote from: boo3 on November 28, 2012, 01:38:53 PM

Quote from: paultzman on November 28, 2012, 01:37:26 PM

My choice fwiw;

“@dcsportsbog: Feinstein wants conf of Gtown, St. John's, Nova, Providence, Seton Hall, Marquette, DePaul, Xavier, Dayton, St. Joe's http://t.co/0o0uWyrM”

 I'd sign up for that.

Kiss MSG goodbye with that schedule unless you have some super out of conference games.

You would have to, play about 15 games in conference, 5 cupcakes, then a killer 12 game schedule vs the elite of the elite every year. 

Absent of having any energy left to discuss this topic further,  I find myself thinking about what is going on in our AD's head at this point. I assume he & fellow BBall ADs have been on the phone. No tanning salon jokes please.

Quote from: boo3 on November 28, 2012, 01:38:53 PM

Quote from: paultzman on November 28, 2012, 01:37:26 PM

My choice fwiw;

“@dcsportsbog: Feinstein wants conf of Gtown, St. John's, Nova, Providence, Seton Hall, Marquette, DePaul, Xavier, Dayton, St. Joe's http://t.co/0o0uWyrM”

 I'd sign up for that.

Kiss MSG goodbye with that schedule unless you have some super out of conference games.

 If the team is good, people will go to games. STJ pays rent to MSG.  The Big east, the last ten years was one of, if not the best, conference in America and no one showed up because we stunk.    I agree about the out of conference schedule and think we will always have a real good one if this was to come to fruition.

Absent of having any energy left to discuss this topic further,  I find myself thinking about what is going on in our AD's head at this point. I assume he & fellow BBall ADs have been on the phone. No tanning salon jokes please.

You would think that they all must be pissed and we need someone to step up and do something. Would be ironic is Marquette led the charge.

havent posted in a while but truly bummed here. League truly died when marinatto rejected that  $$ONE BILLION$$$$ deal from ESPN (dont remember the years) in the friggin fragile economy of 2011 when networks and consumers when watching wallets. ONE BILLION..I cannot believe the stupidity there. he was def forced to resign..

i still believe wherever we end up we will be fine because of uniqueness of having MSG as a home venue... just hope someone on union and utopia decides to grow a pair and starts taking some initiative..

Quote from: boo3 on November 28, 2012, 01:38:53 PM

Quote from: paultzman on November 28, 2012, 01:37:26 PM

My choice fwiw;

“@dcsportsbog: Feinstein wants conf of Gtown, St. John's, Nova, Providence, Seton Hall, Marquette, DePaul, Xavier, Dayton, St. Joe's http://t.co/0o0uWyrM”

 I'd sign up for that.

Kiss MSG goodbye with that schedule unless you have some super out of conference games.

How is it any different from staying in the Big East?    UCONN and Cinncinnatti are as good as gone.   What other marquee games would we have by staying in the BE?   
Maybe Temple and Memphis.   And fwiw, we pay MSG to rent the building.   We can play there as long as we pay the bill.   

Quote from: paultzman on November 28, 2012, 01:51:00 PM

Absent of having any energy left to discuss this topic further,  I find myself thinking about what is going on in our AD's head at this point. I assume he & fellow BBall ADs have been on the phone. No tanning salon jokes please.

You would think that they all must be pissed and we need someone to step up and do something. Would be ironic is Marquette led the charge.

Whoever it is needs to contact some tv people and get an estimate for what an all basketball conference would be worth.    Shouldn't be that hard, there are consultants who do that kind of thing for a living.   
Get a rough idea of how much they can make out on their own, and compare it to what they'd get in the watered down BE.   Then take that estimate to schools like Xavier, Butler, Gonzaga and get them on board (I'm coming around to the west coast idea).   

I find myself thinking about what is going on in our AD's head at this point.

I am not that bored.

Kiss MSG goodbye with that schedule unless you have some super out of conference games.

UConn is the only fball member that would draw fans to MSG.

So whats the diff?

Wisdom:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/big-east-needs-to-return-to-basketball-roots-rather-than-chase-football-crumbs/2012/11/28/9de56016-3975-11e2-8a97-363b0f9a0ab3_story.html

Exactly

Quote from: Choz4Life on November 28, 2012, 01:01:55 PM

Wisdom:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/big-east-needs-to-return-to-basketball-roots-rather-than-chase-football-crumbs/2012/11/28/9de56016-3975-11e2-8a97-363b0f9a0ab3_story.html

Absolutely. 

And it doesn't need to be this monstrous coast-to-coast league people are talking about with Gonzaga and St Marys.

Keep the basketball only schools and then add who you can from:

Xavier
Butler
St Joes
Dayton
VCU
Richmond
George Mason
even a Murray State.

I would love to keep Temple and Memphis involved, but unless they can keep their football in CUSA, that probably won't happen.

Regardless, add several of the above schools to St Johns, Georgetown, Villanova, Marquette, Providence, Depaul, Seton Hall  and we're good to go. 
12 or 14 teams, most on the east coast, and at the very furthest in the central time zone.   All who put their basketball programs ahead of all us. 
That's the best outcome for SJU in my opinion.   And I pray it comes to fruition. 

If the West Coast schools are smart though they should build their own.  Would be good to have east and west coast version.  Big East and Big West.

Lavin on Louisville departure;


“Any time a school with tradition or history leaves, it’s going to have an effect. However, history has shown that if you are positioned as we are at St. John’s and Villanova is and Georgetown and a number of other programs are that we’ll continue to thrive. The league and schools that have the essentials to be great basketball programs will continue to move forward and forge ahead.”

Lavin on Louisville departure;


“Any time a school with tradition or history leaves, it’s going to have an effect. However, history has shown that if you are positioned as we are at St. John’s and Villanova is and Georgetown and a number of other programs are that we’ll continue to thrive. The league and schools that have the essentials to be great basketball programs will continue to move forward and forge ahead.”

Encouraging quote.  Now need to return to breathing into a paper bag.

Quote from: Mullin20 on November 28, 2012, 01:45:31 PM

Quote from: boo3 on November 28, 2012, 01:38:53 PM

Quote from: paultzman on November 28, 2012, 01:37:26 PM

My choice fwiw;

“@dcsportsbog: Feinstein wants conf of Gtown, St. John's, Nova, Providence, Seton Hall, Marquette, DePaul, Xavier, Dayton, St. Joe's http://t.co/0o0uWyrM”

 I'd sign up for that.

Kiss MSG goodbye with that schedule unless you have some super out of conference games.

You would have to, play about 15 games in conference, 5 cupcakes, then a killer 12 game schedule vs the elite of the elite every year. 

Play 18 game conference sched (home and home BUILD RIVALRIES), duke and cuse each year so one of them comes to the garden each year, throw in a west coast team such as Washington or Arizona, then you have room for 5-6 cupcakes and a pre season tourney. That is not a bad schedule at all considering you pay xavier, Gtown, nova, quette 8 times.

Lavin on Louisville departure;


“Any time a school with tradition or history leaves, it’s going to have an effect. However, history has shown that if you are positioned as we are at St. John’s and Villanova is and Georgetown and a number of other programs are that we’ll continue to thrive. The league and schools that have the essentials to be great basketball programs will continue to move forward and forge ahead.”

Translation.....mary,were outta here!

IMO, this is an inside look at a plan that makes a lot of sense. Interesting comments about SJU;

“@NJHoopsHaven: Had a long chat w/ a former Big East insider, who said "now is the time" for a bball breakaway, among other insights: http://t.co/nRk6BDrK”