Marco or Sanchez?

Quote from: sju89tr on November 15, 2012, 12:21:23 AM

Quote from: Moose on November 14, 2012, 11:21:33 PM

Quote from: redslope on November 14, 2012, 10:33:41 PM

Quote from: Moose on November 14, 2012, 08:20:04 PM

Quote from: Chilleb on November 14, 2012, 08:18:30 PM

Quote from: redmen4life on November 14, 2012, 08:01:42 PM

this pretty much proves orlando and marco didn't make the trip

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7tAAtICQAAcdaT.jpg:large

So that means max and Jamal didn't as well? .. Doubt it. Lets be optimistic fellas this is our year.

Honestly $ is probably a factor in why the extras didn't travel.  Plus our bench is notorious for having 900 people on it Away games don't give us those luxuries

money is a factor; by NCAA rules since they have not been declared eligible so theyare not entitled to "free" transportation, hotels and meals which are only permissable for scholarship athletes; walk ons might also have to pay their own way to attend

You sure about that?  They are practicing.  Again eligibilty is a very loose word.  As they are attending school on a 'free' scholarship.  Plus since Branch and Max didn't go I think the $ I was referring to was more why waste 4 round trips, 4 nights in a hotel, etc...... PLUS the lack of bench room etc.

Ineligible players can't travel as well as players such as Jamal or Max.

What happens if NCAA rules them eligible tomorrow?? Can STJ pay for them to fly to Charleston separately to get them into 2nd and 3rd charleston classic games this week?

Of course

Quote from: Moose on November 14, 2012, 01:28:05 PM

Quote from: kjd01067 on November 14, 2012, 01:14:24 PM

Quote from: prjohnnies on November 14, 2012, 12:22:26 PM

Going back to Marco/Sanchez, a poster on the other site said a bit earlier that he heard from a good source that both Marco and Sanchez will be cleared soon.

Anyone know that posters track record? Don't visit over there very often and don't recognize him

He's a long time poster.

And a good one.

if he's inaccurate...he should consider another career besides sports journalism.

Quote from: TRabinowitz on November 15, 2012, 01:46:01 AM

Quote from: sju89tr on November 15, 2012, 12:21:23 AM

Quote from: Moose on November 14, 2012, 11:21:33 PM

Quote from: redslope on November 14, 2012, 10:33:41 PM

Quote from: Moose on November 14, 2012, 08:20:04 PM

Quote from: Chilleb on November 14, 2012, 08:18:30 PM

Quote from: redmen4life on November 14, 2012, 08:01:42 PM

this pretty much proves orlando and marco didn't make the trip

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7tAAtICQAAcdaT.jpg:large

So that means max and Jamal didn't as well? .. Doubt it. Lets be optimistic fellas this is our year.

Honestly $ is probably a factor in why the extras didn't travel.  Plus our bench is notorious for having 900 people on it Away games don't give us those luxuries

money is a factor; by NCAA rules since they have not been declared eligible so theyare not entitled to "free" transportation, hotels and meals which are only permissable for scholarship athletes; walk ons might also have to pay their own way to attend

You sure about that?  They are practicing.  Again eligibilty is a very loose word.  As they are attending school on a 'free' scholarship.  Plus since Branch and Max didn't go I think the $ I was referring to was more why waste 4 round trips, 4 nights in a hotel, etc...... PLUS the lack of bench room etc.

Ineligible players can't travel as well as players such as Jamal or Max.

What happens if NCAA rules them eligible tomorrow?? Can STJ pay for them to fly to Charleston separately to get them into 2nd and 3rd charleston classic games this week?

Of course

No way walkons have to pay their own way, they are still on the team and still "eligible" student athletes.   
But I could see there being limits on ineligible players not being entitled to free transportation etc

Either way, I just hope we hear something sooner or later on these guys; I was giving the NCAA slack initially but this is dragging on way too long - make a decision!

Was watching Duke vs Kentucky the other day, and Vitale was ripping the NCAA, saying how they are understaffed, lazy and procrastinate.  I understand that there are larger issues that they have to deal with day in and day out, but if this is not about grades for these two than at the very least Marco should be playing. 

For Sanchez, i can understand that it might take a little longer if true about his amateur status but how it comes out a week before the start of season is piss poor on behalf of NCAA.  My guess is that the NCAA, sat on their files for the longest time and only got to them now or someone blew the whistle on Sanchez if indeed he did play professionally.

I would imagine it's also true that the NCAA is probably woefully understaffed.    Not making excuses for them, but think of the amount of athletes they have to investigate every season. 

I would imagine it's also true that the NCAA is probably woefully understaffed.    Not making excuses for them, but think of the amount of athletes they have to investigate every season. 

I'm no business major, but I would love to see the books.  The amount of money they make (or potentially make) seems staggering.  It is hard for me to believe that they can't afford to hire more people.  Am I off base here?

The clearinghouse is notoriously slow.  However,  I would expect them to prioritize better and resolve eligibility issues involving money making D1 BE basketball sooner than those of D3 field hockey and such.  This is startling and obviously not going to help our record nor our team chemistry.

I'm no business major, but I would love to see the books.  The amount of money they make (or potentially make) seems staggering.  It is hard for me to believe that they can't afford to hire more people.  Am I off base here?

No.

Quote from: Marillac on November 14, 2012, 01:37:54 PM

Quote from: Moose on November 14, 2012, 01:28:05 PM

Quote from: kjd01067 on November 14, 2012, 01:14:24 PM

Quote from: prjohnnies on November 14, 2012, 12:22:26 PM

Going back to Marco/Sanchez, a poster on the other site said a bit earlier that he heard from a good source that both Marco and Sanchez will be cleared soon.

Anyone know that posters track record? Don't visit over there very often and don't recognize him

He's a long time poster.

And a good one.

if he's inaccurate...he should consider another career besides sports journalism.

Yeah, no real sports journalists are ever steered wrong by their sources.

Quote from: dR3w on November 15, 2012, 11:57:34 AM

I'm no business major, but I would love to see the books.  The amount of money they make (or potentially make) seems staggering.  It is hard for me to believe that they can't afford to hire more people.  Am I off base here?

No.

Sounds right to me too.   But think of it this way, does the NCAA get to "keep" any of that dough?   I would assume the school presidents divy it up down to the last dollar, I'm not sure how much staff the NCAA really has.

Again, I don't want to make excuses for an institution that probably needs a complete overhaul.   But I've heard many times they have a shockingly small staff. 

I quickly tried to see how much staff the NCAA actually has, couldn't find it.   But I did see this;

What kind of activities does the NCAA Eligibility Center review?

- Delayed initial full-time collegiate enrollment to participate in organized sports competition.


http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/eligibility/becoming+eligible/amateurism


Sounds like a vague criteria, but one that would seemingly be questioned for a 24 year old who started JUCO two seasons ago. 

Quote from: newsman13 on November 15, 2012, 08:39:42 AM

Quote from: Marillac on November 14, 2012, 01:37:54 PM

Quote from: Moose on November 14, 2012, 01:28:05 PM

Quote from: kjd01067 on November 14, 2012, 01:14:24 PM

Quote from: prjohnnies on November 14, 2012, 12:22:26 PM

Going back to Marco/Sanchez, a poster on the other site said a bit earlier that he heard from a good source that both Marco and Sanchez will be cleared soon.

Anyone know that posters track record? Don't visit over there very often and don't recognize him

He's a long time poster.

And a good one.

if he's inaccurate...he should consider another career besides sports journalism.

Yeah, no real sports journalists are ever steered wrong by their sources.

unnamed souces??? sportswriting 101...get confirmation.  i'll agree, there's no shortage of amateurs in the business.

Quote from: Marillac on November 14, 2012, 01:37:54 PM

Quote from: Moose on November 14, 2012, 01:28:05 PM

Quote from: kjd01067 on November 14, 2012, 01:14:24 PM

Quote from: prjohnnies on November 14, 2012, 12:22:26 PM

Going back to Marco/Sanchez, a poster on the other site said a bit earlier that he heard from a good source that both Marco and Sanchez will be cleared soon.

Anyone know that posters track record? Don't visit over there very often and don't recognize him

He's a long time poster.

And a good one.

if he's inaccurate...he should consider another career besides sports journalism.

inaccuracy seems like a staple of many sports journalists today

Quote from: Marillac on November 14, 2012, 01:37:54 PM

Quote from: Moose on November 14, 2012, 01:28:05 PM

Quote from: kjd01067 on November 14, 2012, 01:14:24 PM

Quote from: prjohnnies on November 14, 2012, 12:22:26 PM

Going back to Marco/Sanchez, a poster on the other site said a bit earlier that he heard from a good source that both Marco and Sanchez will be cleared soon.

Anyone know that posters track record? Don't visit over there very often and don't recognize him

He's a long time poster.

And a good one.

if he's inaccurate...he should consider another career besides sports journalism.

like going to work at fox news

Quote from: Marillac on November 14, 2012, 01:37:54 PM

Quote from: Moose on November 14, 2012, 01:28:05 PM

Quote from: kjd01067 on November 14, 2012, 01:14:24 PM

Quote from: prjohnnies on November 14, 2012, 12:22:26 PM

Going back to Marco/Sanchez, a poster on the other site said a bit earlier that he heard from a good source that both Marco and Sanchez will be cleared soon.

Anyone know that posters track record? Don't visit over there very often and don't recognize him

He's a long time poster.

And a good one.

if he's inaccurate...he should consider another career besides sports journalism.

Because journalists are never wrong. Right

they can be wrong...but they shouldn't throw shit against the ceiling hoping some sticks.

as far as these boards go...the name of the source should be run by the administrator...who can decide on whether to run the post.  there's a wealth of misinformation that gets people's hopes up.

they can be wrong...but they shouldn't throw shit against the ceiling hoping some sticks.

as far as these boards go...the name of the source should be run by the administrator...who can decide on whether to run the post.  there's a wealth of misinformation that gets people's hopes up.

That's a bit much for a message board. You obviously know the news industry. So when an STJ beat writer says sources say so and so leads for a recruit is the source made public to their bosses?

Do I like misinformation on the boards no but ppl just have to not get to high or too low and just ride the wave a bit

Free Sanchez and Marco!

they can be wrong...but they shouldn't throw shit against the ceiling hoping some sticks.

as far as these boards go...the name of the source should be run by the administrator...who can decide on whether to run the post.  there's a wealth of misinformation that gets people's hopes up.

Newsie you and I are friends and I'm telling you right now that I know for a fact who told Matt C the info and trust me while the info could be wrong there is no way in the world Matt is throwing anything against the ceiling. His source has been closer to the school than you and I would ever get or anyone that we know personally

Quote from: newsman13 on November 15, 2012, 08:39:25 PM

they can be wrong...but they shouldn't throw shit against the ceiling hoping some sticks.

as far as these boards go...the name of the source should be run by the administrator...who can decide on whether to run the post.  there's a wealth of misinformation that gets people's hopes up.

Newsie you and I are friends and I'm telling you right now that I know for a fact who told Matt C the info and trust me while the info could be wrong there is no way in the world Matt is throwing anything against the ceiling. His source has been closer to the school than you and I would ever get or anyone that we know personally

If these boards have taught me anything(mostly it hasn't) it is these 'inside sources" turn out wrong. I have no inside knowledge on this but based on the reported inside knowledge in this thread I am betting both will be deemed ineligible. Honestly people should stop worrying about two guys 90% of the board has never seen play.